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[AsteroidX]

Heres an oldie but goodie

[AsteroidX]

I leave you with this for the day. If you care about your Freedom of Speech you best Support the 2nd Amendment because its the only thing that is protecting you from complete Tyrrany.

[supervike]

This topic needs to be move to the conspiracy section.

[Odin11]

So a bill is passed that turns a misdemeanor into a "federal offense if Secret Service is on the scene" and boom free speech is now a felony? All this bill is saying is that it is now a felony to unlawfully enter a building that a person protected by the Secret Service is in. You can still protest all you want outside, you just can't go in, just like always. This is nothing more than hyperbole by people who want to be mad at everything the government does.


I want to know what you people think you can't do now that you could do before. Trespassing is illegal, thats what this bill is about, not protesting.

This has been a topic before. People over reacted then and they're over reacting now.

Read the bill before you all freak out. http://www.gpo.gov/f...112hr347enr.pdf

[DieChecker]

AsteroidX, on 20 January 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

You have to see the writing on the wall.

http://www.youtube.c...kirzg&vq=medium

Good to see Judge N. looking fit and furious.

I have to agree that this is a bit much, that wereever the Secret Service is at (Does this include agents working for the Treasury?) can be considered a No-Free-Speech zone. It seems very Un-American. It has always be the Right of people, on the Street, or in a Crowd to yell out regardless of it they support or oppose the person who is speaking/passing by. A Felony????? Wow!!!

[DieChecker]

Odin11, on 21 January 2013 - 02:07 AM, said:

Read the bill before you all freak out. http://www.gpo.gov/f...112hr347enr.pdf

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‘‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any

posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area—

‘‘(A ) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice

President’s official residence or its grounds;

‘‘(B ) of a building or grounds where the President or

other person protected by the Secret Service is or will

be temporarily visiting; or

‘‘(c ) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction

with an event designated as a special event of national

significance; and

That does not seem very specific to me. Marked, or posted, off grounds could be an entire park, or an entire main street of a town. Or it could even be a whole small town. There is nothing to prevent that from being true. I don't see any size limitations.

Edited by DieChecker, 21 January 2013 - 02:14 AM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

DieChecker, on 21 January 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

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That does not seem very specific to me. Marked, or posted, off grounds could be an entire park, or an entire main street of a town. Or it could even be a whole small town. There is nothing to prevent that from being true. I don't see any size limitations.

"Obama is visiting Miami, due to security reasons, we cannot tell you his exact itinery" making all of Miami under the purvey of the Secret Service.

[F3SS]

DieChecker, on 21 January 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

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That does not seem very specific to me. Marked, or posted, off grounds could be an entire park, or an entire main street of a town. Or it could even be a whole small town. There is nothing to prevent that from being true. I don't see any size limitations.

When a law is vague it's hard to argue your innocence.

[supervike]

The poster of the thread insinuates it was signed into law by Obama in some sort of rushed 'day after the inauguration' Stalinist power grab.

I'm no expert on the law, and have to say I was not even familar with it, but a 30 second google check shows that this was passed back in Feb. of 2012, and it's basically it's an updated version for a law that has been on the books for 40 plus years, and was almost unianimously agreed upon.

But, those types of rational facts don't matter much when the only goal is to actively try and scare the public and draw hate and ire down upon the government (this one being for President Obama)

But, by all means keep letting those Neo Conservative websites tell you what to think, who you should respect, and what things are dangerous.

It is impossible to have a civil discourse because of crap just like this.

[rashore]

supervike, on 21 January 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

The poster of the thread insinuates it was signed into law by Obama in some sort of rushed 'day after the inauguration' Stalinist power grab.

I'm no expert on the law, and have to say I was not even familar with it, but a 30 second google check shows that this was passed back in Feb. of 2012, and it's basically it's an updated version for a law that has been on the books for 40 plus years, and was almost unianimously agreed upon.

But, those types of rational facts don't matter much when the only goal is to actively try and scare the public and draw hate and ire down upon the government (this one being for President Obama)

But, by all means keep letting those Neo Conservative websites tell you what to think, who you should respect, and what things are dangerous.

It is impossible to have a civil discourse because of crap just like this.

This

And also, the video is from at least 10 months ago....

[Simbi Laveau]

http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/

I don't see the point though,given Biden would take his place. You would have to get rid of both of them .

[lightly]

DieChecker, on 21 January 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

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That does not seem very specific to me. Marked, or posted, off grounds could be an entire park, or an entire main street of a town. Or it could even be a whole small town. There is nothing to prevent that from being true. I don't see any size limitations.

          Exactly right and    ^   Worth repeating  ^

[DieChecker]

Simbi Laveau, on 22 January 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/

I don't see the point though,given Biden would take his place. You would have to get rid of both of them .

I think Biden would make a fine Democrat President... dropping F-bombs on the White House press corp.... going around filling people with fear about being slapped in chains and whatnot. Gaff-master B could be his Rap Name.