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[Colonel Rhuairidh]

TheSearcher, on 25 February 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

I tend towards helping, rather than hindering. I know you and seeder find it differently, but hear me out. I was watching a science program the other day and the presenter asked a neurologist and general brain specialist the exact same question. According to both it doesn't actually hider us, rather than lets our brain use the opened up space and processing power to different things. As they said, we might not know the numbers anymore, but we know how to get to them easily. Same for the internet for example. We know how to retrieve the needed information easily, as opposed to reading an entire book for one bit of info, we retrieve the info we need more directly, more focused if you will.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we are less innovative, but innovations have become more complicated and require more time and brain power, also more technical know-how. Hence we free up space and processing power in our brain and apply it differently with different priorities. And I remember the show now, it was "Dara O'Briain's Science Club" Forth episode if I'm not mistaken.

but we've become completely dependent on this Technology so that we're lost without it. And so many of the technological innovations are obsolete in a couple of years, so the skillz we've learned to master them are now superfluous, and so much of it is frankly rather pointless- twitter and stuff like that may have some uses, but being able to watch any movie you like or store one million tunes on your Phone isn't, well, there's not much point to it really, is there? And by just looking anything at all up on Wiky Pedia we're forgetting how to look things up in boooks, and how to use discernment to decide how accurate that information might be and whether there might be any bias, for instance. We don't know how to retrieve any information we want; all we (or at any rate, all that other people) know how to do is to click on Wikki Pedia and type somehting inthe little box at the top right. And look how often people just post videos on YoTube with the attitude that "it's on the Inter Net, it must be true".

[TheSearcher]

Lord Vetinari, on 26 February 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

but we've become completely dependent on this Technology so that we're lost without it. And so many of the technological innovations are obsolete in a couple of years, so the skillz we've learned to master them are now superfluous, and so much of it is frankly rather pointless- twitter and stuff like that may have some uses, but being able to watch any movie you like or store one million tunes on your Phone isn't, well, there's not much point to it really, is there? And by just looking anything at all up on Wiky Pedia we're forgetting how to look things up in boooks, and how to use discernment to decide how accurate that information might be and whether there might be any bias, for instance. We don't know how to retrieve any information we want; all we (or at any rate, all that other people) know how to do is to click on Wikki Pedia and type somehting inthe little box at the top right. And look how often people just post videos on YoTube with the attitude that "it's on the Inter Net, it must be true".

Fair enough, although I didn't say that it was without it's own issues. I still don't think we are getting less innovative or intelligent. We are getting differently innovative / intelligent. I yet have to see one change or the other that was entirely without downside, the important part is what we make of it.
To be honest coming to this forum, I see both sides of the medal, so to speak, and it makes me hopeful for the world. I can honestly say that if I only inspired one person to think  or to read something other than the AA bunkum, or the EVD, then it will have been worth it.

Edit : PS : Of course there are a few people that are so far into Narnia, that any help comes to late for them.......unless you disguise yourself as Aslan I suppose.

Edited by TheSearcher, 26 February 2013 - 08:04 AM.

[CrimsonKing]

Sweetpumper, on 25 February 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

This is how I picture this thread:

Bas Rutten vs Frank shamrock in pancrase hahaha havnt seen anything from this fight in years.Almost as ancient in MMA as the AA theory!Do not see many trying palm strikes or ankle locks anymore.This is great

[mcrom901]

Lord Vetinari, on 26 February 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

And look how often people just post videos on YoTube with the attitude that "it's on the Inter Net, it must be true".

[DingoLingo]

Lord Vetinari, on 26 February 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

but we've become completely dependent on this Technology so that we're lost without it. And so many of the technological innovations are obsolete in a couple of years, so the skillz we've learned to master them are now superfluous, and so much of it is frankly rather pointless- twitter and stuff like that may have some uses, but being able to watch any movie you like or store one million tunes on your Phone isn't, well, there's not much point to it really, is there? And by just looking anything at all up on Wiky Pedia we're forgetting how to look things up in boooks, and how to use discernment to decide how accurate that information might be and whether there might be any bias, for instance. We don't know how to retrieve any information we want; all we (or at any rate, all that other people) know how to do is to click on Wikki Pedia and type somehting inthe little box at the top right. And look how often people just post videos on YoTube with the attitude that "it's on the Inter Net, it must be true".

that is the biggest downfall technology has on todays society.. is people dont really look at things themselves (unless they decide to go to uni etc) everything truth and fiction can be found on the internet.. the biggest problem is.. a lot of fiction is taking as truth because it is on the internet..

AA for one.. you see a show.. think 'oh there may be something to this' do a google search and your pounded by pages and pages of basically... crap polished up to be truth.. it maybe round.. shiny and look like a nice marble.. but underneath.. its still crap..

people today dont really look for the truth.. they seem to accept the first thing they see.. case and point.. zosers posts.. he finds the video's .. sites.. etc that confirm what he believes.. and rather then looking at the other ones.. he dismisses them..

same can be said for the CT crowd.. the UFO crowd.. so on and so forth..

I suppose my advantage is.. I looked into it all in the pre internet days..  zoser is correct in one way.. that it is growing.. not because its true.. but the bored.. illiterate.. unthinking crowd are taking the easy way.. and just saying.. hey its true..

Our lives have been overwhelmed by TV shows and movies about aliens etc.. Stargate is a big one that has spawned the current generation of AA believers.. Avatar.. Star Trek.. Battlestar Galatica.. etc etc etc.. so they are looking at these shows.. watch a AA show and wow.. the light bulb lights up over there head and it becomes truth..

I mean.. how many schools and universities have started to dumb down their exams.. because people were failing.. or allowing homework etc written in txt speak.. primary school children using calculators in maths classes.. and the lists goes on..

We really are becoming the dumb society.. because we no longer have to think for ourselves.. its all there.. at the click of a button..

[Abramelin]

Lord Vetinari, on 26 February 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

but we've become completely dependent on this Technology so that we're lost without it. And so many of the technological innovations are obsolete in a couple of years, so the skillz we've learned to master them are now superfluous, and so much of it is frankly rather pointless- twitter and stuff like that may have some uses, but being able to watch any movie you like or store one million tunes on your Phone isn't, well, there's not much point to it really, is there? And by just looking anything at all up on Wiky Pedia we're forgetting how to look things up in boooks, and how to use discernment to decide how accurate that information might be and whether there might be any bias, for instance. We don't know how to retrieve any information we want; all we (or at any rate, all that other people) know how to do is to click on Wikki Pedia and type somehting inthe little box at the top right. And look how often people just post videos on YoTube with the attitude that "it's on the Inter Net, it must be true".

Wiki is not a bad or cheap source of information at all. But what you should always do is check its references.

Sometimes a couple of such references completely or partly contadict what's written/claimed on the Wiki page, and then you know that either those who wrote the Wiki didn't really understand what they were talking about, or....that they just added serious looking references,knowing not many people even bother to check those references.

A library that only contains those 'old fashioned' books can be a maze too, that is if you don't really know and understand what you are looking for, or when you don't know how to look.

[Myles]

I think it's kind of a wash.    Sure the average person is not chopping their own wood and researching through books.   But there are more people now who have access and are knowledgable of more things.    It's true that there is way too much crap available throught the net, but there is also an endless supply of good factual information.

[theSOURCE]

The AA theory is true. Zoser sez so.





Oh my soul! What am I saying? The internet has finally rotted my brain!

[seeder]

You know, if they had found something like a version of the 'Georgia Guide-stones' with a message for future man,  from ancient times, then Id be more impressed than just close fitting stones, and as has been said many times in this thread, they apparently taught nothing but building jigsaws at a time when the best monuments had already been built

[scowl]

theSOURCE, on 26 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

The AA theory is true. Zoser sez so.

I still want to know how to generate electricity with granite which is not a piezoelectric material by using the regular movement of the ground that hasn't been detected by any seismographs and then transmit that electricity without using wires.

All this must be true because zoser smugly said that none of these arguments had made the slightest impression on him and he was still completely convinced that pyramids were generating unimaginable (although completely unmeasurable) power.

[seeder]

scowl, on 26 February 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

that pyramids were generating unimaginable (although completely unmeasurable) power.

not only that, but this power then went up to a satellite - so it can be beamed back down again to someplace.

Not just any satellite either, a GRANITE one,

[zoser]

scowl, on 26 February 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

I still want to know how to generate electricity with granite which is not a piezoelectric material by using the regular movement of the ground that hasn't been detected by any seismographs and then transmit that electricity without using wires.

All this must be true because zoser smugly said that none of these arguments had made the slightest impression on him and he was still completely convinced that pyramids were generating unimaginable (although completely unmeasurable) power.

I can see you are all missing me.  Posting clips of wrestling, and so on.  You know you all love it!  Here we go then.

Look the information is everywhere.  Granite was obviously of prime importance to the ancients.  It is seen in the precision architecture of Peru, and mysteriously vast quantities of it exist in the Great Pyramid.

Now the banal of mind would argue that it is perhaps the most commonly occuring of the hard rocks and so for durablilty, longevity and structural soundness it made sense for that to be the material of choice for the ancients.

That may be fine as an argument when looking at the Peruvian walls.  In the GP however we have a situation where we now know that the granite provides no structural integrity at all by virtue of the isolation that exists between it an the core masonry.

Bauval asserts that the granite is almost completely isolated and resting on corrugted shaped masonry.

(Also no one thought to challenge the granite structural theory on the basis that the middle chamber has no such mass of granite above it and would in fact need the support more than the upper chamber).

So the structural integrity idea is a non-starter.  

What we do know about granite is that it is an active stone.

Here is what is said about it:


Radioactivity

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Granite is a mineral that is produced through a slow process from the crystallization of molten rock. It contains a wide variety of elements and minerals, some of which are radioactive. A radioactive element is one in which the molecules periodically break down, releasing either particle or electromagnetic radiation. If this radiation has enough energy to detach electrons from atoms, it is said to be ionizing radiation and can be dangerous. Naturally occurring radioactive elements in granite include thorium and uranium.

Alpha and Beta Radiation
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Two types of particle radiation that can potentially be emitted by elements found in granite are alpha and beta radiation. Alpha radiation is made of particles composed of two neutrons and two protons. Although it is ionizing radiation, it has little penetrating power and can be stopped by a sheet of paper. However, it can damage living tissue if the elements emitting this radiation are inhaled or ingested. Beta radiation is made of fast-moving electrons. Beta is more penetrating than alpha, but it will still be stopped by a sheet of aluminum foil.



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Bearing in mind that this is in a non-excited state.  The granite stack as we now know was designed to vibrate or resonate.  What the effect of that must be on the properties of the stone would potentially be immense bearing in mind the area of the pyramid, the mass of granite and the tuning that we know took place from the rough hewn beams above the upper chamber.

Then there is what we do not know:

What existed in the grand gallery slots?  The ante chamber?  The pyramid cap?  The granite box?  The shafts?

How did this all interact with the machine?  

Well Dunn constructed a theory to account for these missing artefacts which in the end may or may not be correct.  His theory about zinc and acid seems to hold because of the residues visible in the middle chamber.

The blackened granite in the upper chamber that cannot be removed despite cleaning attempts tells of some active process that depleted the stone and left it in that condition.

So all in all we have now a principle that fits all of the evidence.  Is it a clear and definitive idea of how it worked?  No it cannot be by virtue of the missing artefacts.  Thankfully however, enough evidence has now come to light to prove Dunn's vibration theory.  Knowledge of the missing artefacts would be nice, but not essential to know what the GP actually was.

What more is actually needed?

Edited by zoser, 26 February 2013 - 08:38 PM.

[zoser]

Gamma Radiation

• Another form of ionizing radiation that can result from elements in granite is gamma radiation. This can be released from radioactive isotopes of protactinium, lead and other species. Gamma radiation is emitted as electromagnetic radiation rather than particles, in a form similar to x-rays. It has much more penetrating power than either alpha or beta particles and can easily penetrate clothing and other barriers to cause damage to the interior of the body.

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Maybe the word construction is wrong.

Perhaps the word should actually be 'grinite' not granite.

grinite = igniter

That is exactly right.  

Edited by zoser, 26 February 2013 - 08:43 PM.

[seeder]

seeder, on 25 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

ooh and I just remembered another...then after a little while...its back to the pyramids !!

[Myles]

Oh boy