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[voiceofreason]

I notice my previous post is being ignored. Probably because it proves that ouija boards don't work, and never will. Try it if you don't believe me. The glass only moves when someone moves it. You cannot contact spirits with these things, they are just toys.

[Fstop]

Rafterman, on 22 February 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

I saw some ghost show a few years back and this lady swore she had a ghost in her pantry - I'm thinking, "what a **** place to haunt for all eternity".  I can hear the ghost now, "OK, so if they touch the unopened pickle jar, I'm cool.  But if they go for the Triscuits, I'm going all Poltergeist on their asses".

Shows like that never really address the question - why the hell would a ghost WANT to haunt a pantry?  Or anyplace for that matter.  The house I live in - according to my brother is supposedly haunted.  I've never heard or seen a thing that couldn't be explained by mundane everyday occurances.

I personally believe that ghosts exist - though only in the minds of those who believe in them.  Which is fine I suppose.  I mean what harm is there in believing in something imaginary?   Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy.....all these imaginary concepts make life more fun and interesting.  Ghosts are the same.

[B Jenkins]

voiceofreason, on 23 February 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

I notice my previous post is being ignored. Probably because it proves that ouija boards don't work, and never will. Try it if you don't believe me. The glass only moves when someone moves it. You cannot contact spirits with these things, they are just toys.

Your suggestion towards debunking the ouija board seems ingenius. But really proves nothing, as yes, there will be those friends out to prank or hoax their friends.

But to the individual that uses the ouija board frequently and believe it is indeed real, those are the ones that are endangered for demonic activity. The ouija board only requires one person to participate afterall. Even those that use the ouija board as a party gag, they may open themselves up to malevolent spirits. They too may find their lives torn apart at the seams due to personal misfortunes and calamities.

[B Jenkins]

Just wanted to sum up my thoughts on ouija boards, people fear the ouija board for a very specific reason: demonic oppression.

[voiceofreason]

What it proves, is that the glass is pushed, by the people using the board, not pulled, as it would be if a spirit were involved. This will happen every time.

[Kipperphoenix]

B Jenkins, on 22 February 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

Ouija boards have had different forms some existed in ancient times. So, no, it is not simply a game it is a tool used to channel spirits and communicate with them.



Sure it is marketed as a game but it still serves the same purposes as its ancient progenitors of spirit writing or automatic writing. The reason demons are attracted to this mediumistic writing is because the user requests a spirit to divine for them. Divination in any form is expressively forbidden in the Scriptures because one can find themselves entangled with malevolent spirits. IMO, malevolent spirits are the earth-bound spirits, the principalities and powers here upon the earth. Now I am going to go out on a limb here but I believe that celestial angelic spirits can traverse both heaven and earth. But I also believe other spirits God bound to the earth. This form of divination is a dangerous method of access through a user by these malevolent spirits that perhaps will take on any role or personality in order deceive this individual. Maybe they will pose as an ancient wise shaman, maybe they will pose as a dead relative, maybe they will pose as a famous personality, maybe they will pose as someone participated in a famous piece of history, maybe this spirit will divine fortunes and by that ultimately gain captive the will of the user by tickling their ears who become enslaved to their ouija board and its new found host, perhaps somethings will come true and there will be confirmations along the way but it will not lead to a good nor happy end. Atop of that, this could lead to many unpleasant activity in the user's life and their suffering will grow worse and worse that they will require a ministrial deliverance.

Yes, there have been many variations of Ouija boards, but that still doesn't prove that they're a medium/catalyst used by demons. Literally anything could be made into catalyst for demons, hell, I bet even a cup could be used to summon demons! What makes a Ouija board so special? Is it because it has letters and numbers on it? Well then i guess if the spirits wanted to, they could just use my laptop's keyboard right now and type out a message for me. Think about this, why is it that the spirits can only move the planchette when you put you fingertips on it? Why not when I just place my palm on it? The answer is because the only way the planchette will move is if you daintily place your fingers on it so that way YOU will inadvertently start to move the planchette because you're thinking about it moving. So overall, Ouija boards don't really work and just don't ask to speak with a demon in general. (Seriously, why would you do that? That's like wanting to visit Hell itself and then being shocked/disappointed when you see it's full of death and suffering.)

[Godofcats]

I never thought ouiji boards were real so they don't really bother me. the thing that bothers me is that people actually think some demon or spirit is going to show up and haunt them yet they still use the board anyway. what?

[auramyst]

voiceofreason, on 24 February 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

What it proves, is that the glass is pushed, by the people using the board, not pulled, as it would be if a spirit were involved. This will happen every time.

Just wondering...

Where is it proven that a spirit would 'pull' rather than 'push' the glass?  Ouija board communication has not been proven, so how has it been proven that a spirit would 'pull' rather than 'push' the planchett or glass?

[FlyingAngel]

auramyst, on 04 March 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Just wondering...

Where is it proven that a spirit would 'pull' rather than 'push' the glass?  Ouija board communication has not been proven, so how has it been proven that a spirit would 'pull' rather than 'push' the planchett or glass?

Because people think that spirit has telekinesis power so that they would pull the glass instead of using their fingers like normal people would do.

Personally, I think the board is more like a chat interface (Yahoo, MSN messenger). People concentrate and send the chat using words and voice. The board is like the screen. The spirits send the answer through people's mind, the mind use people's fingers to decode it back into letters.

[B Jenkins]

Kipperphoenix, on 28 February 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Yes, there have been many variations of Ouija boards, but that still doesn't prove that they're a medium/catalyst used by demons. Literally anything could be made into catalyst for demons, hell, I bet even a cup could be used to summon demons! What makes a Ouija board so special? Is it because it has letters and numbers on it? Well then i guess if the spirits wanted to, they could just use my laptop's keyboard right now and type out a message for me. Think about this, why is it that the spirits can only move the planchette when you put you fingertips on it? Why not when I just place my palm on it? The answer is because the only way the planchette will move is if you daintily place your fingers on it so that way YOU will inadvertently start to move the planchette because you're thinking about it moving. So overall, Ouija boards don't really work and just don't ask to speak with a demon in general. (Seriously, why would you do that? That's like wanting to visit Hell itself and then being shocked/disappointed when you see it's full of death and suffering.)

The danger lies in simply opening communication with spirits and mediumship through spirits.  IMO, earthbound spirits aren't good, malevolent and deceptive and demonic.

Quite simply, a ouija board user can become demonically oppressed and basically have a "mark" over their whole household that entails a whole lotta personal bad luck and tragedy even.

[Thylacina]

I've never used a Ouja board in my life but I wouldn't reccomend getting one. They're dangerous and I've heard of awful things happening to people who mess around with them. Trust me, don't get one and don't mess with them.

[Insaniac]

Ouija boards are not something you should be messing with. If you do, you'll find out the hard way why people are afraid of them.

Demons/unclean spirits exist whether you choose to believe in them or not.

[Thylacina]

Insaniac, on 09 March 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Ouija boards are not something you should be messing with. If you do, you'll find out the hard way why people are afraid of them.

Demons/unclean spirits exist whether you choose to believe in them or not.

Exactly.

[Sakari]

Insaniac, on 09 March 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Ouija boards are not something you should be messing with. If you do, you'll find out the hard way why people are afraid of them.

Demons/unclean spirits exist whether you choose to believe in them or not.

Evidence to support this please.

[docyabut2]

I would`nt I `ve read so many stories of how people are  possessed  by spirits, that would`nt leave them alone. I did once with a friend  and as we started playing  a minister  knock at the door, we stopped hid the board and later threw the board away,  sometimes I think that was a sign  of don`nt!  

Edited by docyabut2, 10 March 2013 - 01:19 AM.