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AA artifacts - evidence or speculation ?

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#46    Sheep Smart

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:10 AM

Exeter makes a good point. We barely know the tip of the ice burg regarding our past.

and to backup MY quotex on behalf of evolving backwards: (the special non google edition for kmt_) :yes:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2291228/Have-scientists-discovered-reverse-evolution-Study-shows-house-dust-mites-abandoned-parasitic-lifestyle-free-living-just-like-ancestors.html

I may just have a new theory here.

Edited by Sheep Smart, 05 May 2013 - 07:10 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:29 AM

Hello Sheep smart!

Thats called artist creativity.

What do you say on this, below?

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TMNT?

Or this?

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And last I like the most.
You dont actually think that Natives from Colima... :blush:

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:36 AM

1st one - a flying tortois BECAUSE it closely resembles a UFO. Ha! and probably because there was no Pottery Barn back then.
2nd one- that is def an astronaut  in...... possibly disney inspired gear.

3rd one - Do you happen to have the x-rated version off hand?????????

Edited by Sheep Smart, 05 May 2013 - 07:41 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:50 AM

Hi the L.

You're using extreme examples in an attempt to prove your point which is not far removed from a strawman argument. I know the previous posts have been addressed but to be truly open minded you have to allow for a margin of doubt.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:55 AM

View PostExeter, on 05 May 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

Not to stir up **** here (more that's been already) but seriously who can claim to truly understand what the ancient people really thought? Even today with so much available communication world wide there's more than a few cultural blocks. What I mean by that is that even if you go live abroad with a different culture and learn everything you can about them you still will never have their mind set.

The ancients made art and wrote a lot about their every day lives. Who's to say that what we interpret as just their beliefs and myths weren't actual descriptions of what really went down?

Time machine or it didn't happen. lol

So we can dismiss the theories from professional archaeologists and anthropologists who spend the better part of their lives studying ancient cultures who then must put those theories into the lion's mouth called peer review? Simply because they weren't there? All the artifacts, all the documentation and records, all of the oral histories passed down to descendants, all of the cultural evidence left behind by ancient civilizations don't matter?

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

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So we can dismiss the theories from professional archaeologists and anthropologists who spend the better part of their lives studying ancient cultures who then must put those theories into the lion's mouth called peer review? Simply because they weren't there? All the artifacts, all the documentation and records, all of the oral histories passed down to descendants, all of the cultural evidence left behind by ancient civilizations don't matter?
I dont dismiss them, I just dont care to acknowledge them because for one theories of ancient history come a dime a dozen. Accepted theories are not necessarily proven.
Like exeter said, we seem to think we know everything about people and thier beliefs, myths, and everything theyve seen thousands of years ago.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:23 AM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 05 May 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

So we can dismiss the theories from professional archaeologists and anthropologists who spend the better part of their lives studying ancient cultures who then must put those theories into the lion's mouth called peer review? Simply because they weren't there? All the artifacts, all the documentation and records, all of the oral histories passed down to descendants, all of the cultural evidence left behind by ancient civilizations don't matter?

Hi Slave2Fate.

That was not my point at all. The academics have done a wonderful job of exploring and deciphering how ancient people lived and what they believed in.

From what I have personally experienced is that even today people have difficulty grasping the intricacies of a foreign culture. Experiences are expressed in their own language and/or beliefs, and the way we have been trained from day one to interpret things eventually will get in the way of understanding what they are describing. Now apply that to people who lived thousands of years ago and that really complicates that by several factors.

It's like the islanders who thought WWII planes were gods (sorry I can't remember all the dentals right now). That was relatively recent. Why couldn't have an alien race visited in the past and the indigenous people have made images of what they really saw?

I know it's just speculation, but so is a large part of what has been submitted by archeologists.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:36 AM

Whats the purpose of this, just one of the many hundreds at Nazca, a 6 mile long runway looking line for religious purposes ? I seriously doubt that and if anyone suggests this is naturally made im certain reverse evolution is in full effect  
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

for the genius who made the remark about "visual aid" heres some more since the thread is based on visual images.


some 13-15th century paintings with "natural occurances"  (that just so happen to look like ufos) in the background.
Whats the latest theory on these?
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The Baptism of Christ by Aert de Gelder (1645-1727)
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"The Crucifixion" (1350)
Visoki Decani Monestary
Kosovo, Yugoslavi
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"Madonna col Bambino e San Giovannino"
(Madonna and Child with the Infant Saint John)

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"The Annunciation with Saint Emidius" (1486)
Carlo Crivelli (1430-1495)
National Gallery, London
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"Adoration of the Child with St. Benedict and Angels" (c 1480)
Vincenzo Foppa
(ca.1430-1515)
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"Tenture de la Vie de la Vierge"
Unknown Artist
(1330)
Notre-Dame

Edited by Sheep Smart, 05 May 2013 - 09:16 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:20 AM

Sheep, when you see the paintings, what do you do?

For me, when i see the paintings, the small/tiny depictions do look like Flying suacers. UFOs etc.
But do i make a sudden conclusion whether they are indeed UFOs?
No i dont. because i need to know more about these depictions.
So what do i do?
I research. I read material. I use my common sense. I use occam's razor. i arrive at my conclusions.
that is what every thinking man should do.

for your information, have a look at this link regarding the 'depcitions of UFOs in Medieval Art"

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

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Sheep, when you see the paintings, what do you do?

For me, when i see the paintings, the small/tiny depictions do look like Flying suacers. UFOs etc.
But do i make a sudden conclusion whether they are indeed UFOs?
No i dont. because i need to know more about these depictions.
So what do i do?
I research. I read material. I use my common sense. I use occam's razor. i arrive at my conclusions.
that is what every thinking man should do.

for your information, have a look at this link regarding the 'depcitions of UFOs in Medieval Art"

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Sheep, when you see the paintings, what do you do?


Well, if its nice outside I sometimes I put on my french maid outfit and pop a ****load of acid. Not today though, no acid on Sundays,

thats fabulous. ive done all that but i still see what looks like the same thing thousands of people claim to see each year while reporting a ufo sighting. so you see how that works dont you? after all my thoughts are different from yours. are they not? if i started this thread and i stand by what i think and back it against the herd, isnt that my own conclusion?
if it looks like a duck, in every picture....
you should really use your own razor.

Edited by Sheep Smart, 05 May 2013 - 09:52 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:29 AM

View PostSheep Smart, on 05 May 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

thats fabulous. ive done all that but i still see what looks like the same thing thousands of people claim to see each year while reporting a ufo sighting. so you see how that works dont you? after all my thoughts are different from yours. are they not?
if it looks like a duck, in every picture....
you should really use your own razor.

Putting aside the pithy remarks, take a look at the link that i have provided and do give your comments.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostThe_Spartan, on 05 May 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:

Putting aside the pithy remarks, take a look at the link that i have provided and do give your comments.

please dont put them aside.
yea, i dont really agree with the shape shifting cloud- star theories.
You dont really expect me to change my mind after that read do you?

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:50 AM

i realize its off topic, but can you explain your somewhat contradictive quote

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:35 AM

No comments. :innocent:

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