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[THE INTERPRETER]

Let him that is thirsty drink of the water of life, the truth of Christ that is given for us to see and live with him forever.

Woe to the adversary (Antichrist) who comes against the Lord and his Christ, his time is come.

Here is the place where he will arise from.


From beyond the Black Sea and great Tartary,
There will be a King who will come to see Gaul,
He will pierce through "Alania" and Armenia,
And within Byzantium will he leave his bloody rod.
(Century V, Quatrain 54)




From beyond the black Sea tells us he will not come from the Middle-East.

The reference to the great Tartary directs us to central asia between the Caspian Sea and China.

It is from here the son of perdition will arise, he will come from the nation called KAZAKHSTAN.  Many overlook this region and it will fall in line with the surprise uprising

currently ignored.  The entities are building this region up (Central Asia) greatly and it shall become a great player militarily in the next 10-15 years. Research their history for yourself.

Gaul is the place of France and the United Kingdom.  He will want to come here out of Vanity and to be worshipped.He will be received as a brilliant and great leader deceiving many amidst horrible suffering and peril.Piercing through refers to the strong

illusions he will use to take swift control of various areas such as Georgia, Armenia, and portions of Russia (Alania and Armenia).

Due to the confusion that will be Global at this time with great blackouts and a loss of communications(temporarily), this will be done unaware to most in the west.

Byzantium refers to Turkey and the surrounding areas such as Syria, Iraq and Iran.  He will fortify himself here heavily (his bloody rod) first in Turkey because of the barbarians who will praise him as some great prophet of their god Allah.  The muslim nations

will be as mere pawns as they already are in the agenda of the False one.  

From here his final seat from which he will oversee the building of the Temple spoken of in the Bible will be in Iraq which will have had  the ancient city of Babylon rebuilt.  

Do not be deceived the children of Ishmael, even they shall be utterly hated by this Beast for he will claim himself to be above all others.



The distraction is in the land of northern Africa and the middle-east strife, the nation of Israel will not be weakened but will only grow stronger defeating the surrounding nations.  

The son of perdition will thus not be expected at the time of his arrival for they will say peace and then there will be a great horror of destruction.

Yet be not afraid of these things, the LORD OF LORDS who is FAITHFUL and TRUE shall have his vengeance.

If you know Jesus the Christ, you will be kept from all of these things.

Edited by THE INTERPRETER, 03 February 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[THE INTERPRETER]

Also of note, KAZAKHSTAN and MONGOLIA are greatly connected spiritually, culturally and spiritually.

KAZAKHSTAN is the perfect breeding ground for a diverse multi-religious sect to prosper, which is already at work.

Legion will be their Mantra, all religions under one false entity.

[THE INTERPRETER]

THE INTERPRETER, on 04 February 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Also of note, KAZAKHSTAN and MONGOLIA are greatly connected spiritually, culturally and politically.

KAZAKHSTAN is the perfect breeding ground for a diverse multi-religious sect to prosper, which is already at work.

Legion will be their Mantra, all religions under one false entity.

Correction, that should have read spiritually, culturally and politically.

[Englishgent]

Says who?
Nostradamus' works can be interpeted any way to suit the interpreter.
And you say that if we know christ we will be kept from these things?  You mean anyone not a christian is doomed?  That wont please the christians.  If everyone was a christian there would be nobody to try and convert!.
You wouldnt happen to have a date for all these events to unfold would you?  I dont suppose you do.  Just like all his other predictions that have been taken by different people all over the world to mean different things depending, again, on what suits them at the time. And if the prediction does not come true, there is always an excuse as to why.  Strange that

[THE INTERPRETER]

Englishgent, on 06 February 2012 - 04:17 AM, said:

Says who?
Nostradamus' works can be interpeted any way to suit the interpreter.
And you say that if we know christ we will be kept from these things?  You mean anyone not a christian is doomed?  That wont please the christians.  If everyone was a christian there would be nobody to try and convert!.
You wouldnt happen to have a date for all these events to unfold would you?  I dont suppose you do.  Just like all his other predictions that have been taken by different people all over the world to mean different things depending, again, on what suits them at the time. And if the prediction does not come true, there is always an excuse as to why.  Strange that

Englishgent,



Anything can be interpreted however which way the reader and viewer decides, whether it's Nostradamus or your daily newspaper.


You have all to gain and nothing to lose in taking heed to the warning of the Prophet.  There is indeed no excuse if this were not fulfilled, however time has already revealed that

this will be fulfilled shortly for there is no more time left for it to be delayed.

This present world only has 30 years left in accordance with this prophecy, but no specific date can be given.


If you understand the Matrix you live in, then you will understand prophecy is not a prediction of things yet to happen but the declaration of those things that already are that

have yet to appear in our dimension of time.

[Englishgent]

THE INTERPRETER, on 07 February 2012 - 05:58 AM, said:

Englishgent,



Anything can be interpreted however which way the reader and viewer decides, whether it's Nostradamus or your daily newspaper.


You have all to gain and nothing to lose in taking heed to the warning of the Prophet.  There is indeed no excuse if this were not fulfilled, however time has already revealed that

this will be fulfilled shortly for there is no more time left for it to be delayed.

This present world only has 30 years left in accordance with this prophecy, but no specific date can be given.


If you understand the Matrix you live in, then you will understand prophecy is not a prediction of things yet to happen but the declaration of those things that already are that

have yet to appear in our dimension of time.

1.You hit the nail on the head with your opening sentence.
2.How has time already revealed that this prohpecy will be fulfilled? Facts please?
3.No specific date?
At leaat the Mayans said (according to some),  Dec 21st 2012.   Maybe they knew more than Nostradamus.  
4.People have been predicting the end of the world for years. What makes you think it will end in 30 years time?
5.If I listened to every end of the world prediction that came along I would probably end up in a mental institution. The simple fact of the matter is, all these predictions have come and gone and guess what. We are still here.  

[Paracelse]

THE INTERPRETER, on 03 February 2012 - 06:45 AM, said:

Let him that is thirsty drink of the water of life, the truth of Christ that is given for us to see and live with him forever.

Woe to the adversary (Antichrist) who comes against the Lord and his Christ, his time is come.

Here is the place where he will arise from.


From beyond the Black Sea and great Tartary,
There will be a King who will come to see Gaul,
He will pierce through "Alania" and Armenia,
And within Byzantium will he leave his bloody rod.
(Century V, Quatrain 54)




From beyond the black Sea tells us he will not come from the Middle-East.

The reference to the great Tartary directs us to central asia between the Caspian Sea and China.

It is from here the son of perdition will arise, he will come from the nation called KAZAKHSTAN.  Many overlook this region and it will fall in line with the surprise uprising

currently ignored.  The entities are building this region up (Central Asia) greatly and it shall become a great player militarily in the next 10-15 years. Research their history for yourself.

Gaul is the place of France and the United Kingdom.  He will want to come here out of Vanity and to be worshipped.He will be received as a brilliant and great leader deceiving many amidst horrible suffering and peril.Piercing through refers to the strong

illusions he will use to take swift control of various areas such as Georgia, Armenia, and portions of Russia (Alania and Armenia).

Due to the confusion that will be Global at this time with great blackouts and a loss of communications(temporarily), this will be done unaware to most in the west.

Byzantium refers to Turkey and the surrounding areas such as Syria, Iraq and Iran.  He will fortify himself here heavily (his bloody rod) first in Turkey because of the barbarians who will praise him as some great prophet of their god Allah.  The muslim nations

will be as mere pawns as they already are in the agenda of the False one.  

From here his final seat from which he will oversee the building of the Temple spoken of in the Bible will be in Iraq which will have had  the ancient city of Babylon rebuilt.  

Do not be deceived the children of Ishmael, even they shall be utterly hated by this Beast for he will claim himself to be above all others.



The distraction is in the land of northern Africa and the middle-east strife, the nation of Israel will not be weakened but will only grow stronger defeating the surrounding nations.  

The son of perdition will thus not be expected at the time of his arrival for they will say peace and then there will be a great horror of destruction.

Yet be not afraid of these things, the LORD OF LORDS who is FAITHFUL and TRUE shall have his vengeance.

If you know Jesus the Christ, you will be kept from all of these things.

Heuuuu not to burst your bubble but on which map of Gaul have you seen the current UK??? I would really but really really interested in seeing it....
Michel de Nostredame was Jewish, of Jewish descent.. why in world would he talk about JC a messiah in which he didn't believe?

[THE INTERPRETER]

Paracelse, on 07 February 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Heuuuu not to burst your bubble but on which map of Gaul have you seen the current UK??? I would really but really really interested in seeing it....
Michel de Nostredame was Jewish, of Jewish descent.. why in world would he talk about JC a messiah in which he didn't believe?

Paracelse,


It won't be on any current map for this is a spiritual map at which the Prophet observed these things.  The place of London is to be included in the terror of the False one as he will

not leave this territory untouched for the sake of Vanity.  Also the place of the Celtics encompasses this entire area beyond France.

Gaul does not simply represent a region, but a culture entirely, look this up for yourself and you will find the map of the influence of Gaul and the Celtics.


Thank you for your observations.



If you wish to believe he had no Faith in the Messiah, by all means believe that.  Many things will be written of a true prophet that are simply distortions in order to blind one from seeing the truth.  

He was not forced to believe as some assert, but he knew the true God and his Christ.

[THE INTERPRETER]

Englishgent, on 07 February 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

1.You hit the nail on the head with your opening sentence.
2.How has time already revealed that this prohpecy will be fulfilled? Facts please?
3.No specific date?
At leaat the Mayans said (according to some),  Dec 21st 2012.   Maybe they knew more than Nostradamus.  
4.People have been predicting the end of the world for years. What makes you think it will end in 30 years time?
5.If I listened to every end of the world prediction that came along I would probably end up in a mental institution. The simple fact of the matter is, all these predictions have come and gone and guess what. We are still here.  

Englishgent,


As you have said yourself, statements may be interpreted in many ways yet time reveals the truth of the interpretation.

Learn the Parable of the Fig Tree given by the LORD himself. This is how one understand God's time-table, there is no guess work as it regards the 30 years given.

You would be better off considering the Quatrains rather than the demon worshippers.

[Englishgent]

THE INTERPRETER, on 07 February 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

Englishgent,


As you have said yourself, statements may be interpreted in many ways yet time reveals the truth of the interpretation.

Learn the Parable of the Fig Tree given by the LORD himself. This is how one understand God's time-table, there is no guess work as it regards the 30 years given.

You would be better off considering the Quatrains rather than the demon worshippers.

Mr Interpeter.  I have no intentions of ''learning the parable of the fig tree''  It is your opinion that this was given by the lord himself. Not mine, therefore it is not relevant and in no way could predict anything 30 years from now.  
I have read many quatrains and have also seen many interpretations of said quatrains. As has been said, to which you agree, they are open to whatever interpretation a person wants to give them. What makes your's the real one?  So far, they have only been interpreted AFTER an event occurs and one which , with lots of twisting and arranging of words and figures within the quatrain can (maybe) fit said event.
Please explain to me who these demon worshipers are as I am totally lost on that one

[Paracelse]

THE INTERPRETER, on 07 February 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Paracelse,


It won't be on any current map for this is a spiritual map at which the Prophet observed these things.  The place of London is to be included in the terror of the False one as he will

not leave this territory untouched for the sake of Vanity.  Also the place of the Celtics encompasses this entire area beyond France.

Gaul does not simply represent a region, but a culture entirely, look this up for yourself and you will find the map of the influence of Gaul and the Celtics.


Thank you for your observations.



If you wish to believe he had no Faith in the Messiah, by all means believe that.  Many things will be written of a true prophet that are simply distortions in order to blind one from seeing the truth.  

He was not forced to believe as some assert, but he knew the true God and his Christ.

Sorry but I do not dream of maps.  The Celts living in France were not really one culture but a mix of many (this perhaps explain how Ceasar could conquer the country so easely)
As far as De Notredame, his grandparents were forced to become christians under the threat of bonfire so yeah he didn't really believe in any messiah

[THE INTERPRETER]

Paracelse, on 08 February 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Sorry but I do not dream of maps.  The Celts living in France were not really one culture but a mix of many (this perhaps explain how Ceasar could conquer the country so easely)
As far as De Notredame, his grandparents were forced to become christians under the threat of bonfire so yeah he didn't really believe in any messiah

Paracelse,

You seem to compartmentalize cultures, for a mix of many is a culture in itself.


Read his letters which quote Christ and also contains his acknowledgement of him as the "True Savior".

If you wish to ignore his own writings would you then tell me where you get your information from?  If it is not from the man himself or the Lord himself then perhaps you do not seek the Truth?

Those who love the Truth will go to the LORD himself for it.

[THE INTERPRETER]

Englishgent, on 08 February 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

Mr Interpeter.  I have no intentions of ''learning the parable of the fig tree''  It is your opinion that this was given by the lord himself. Not mine, therefore it is not relevant and in no way could predict anything 30 years from now.  
I have read many quatrains and have also seen many interpretations of said quatrains. As has been said, to which you agree, they are open to whatever interpretation a person wants to give them. What makes your's the real one?  So far, they have only been interpreted AFTER an event occurs and one which , with lots of twisting and arranging of words and figures within the quatrain can (maybe) fit said event.
Please explain to me who these demon worshipers are as I am totally lost on that one

Englishgent,

It was given by Divine inspiration and this can be considered a fact because these are the words of Nostradamus himself.

God can reveal the times and seasons of his own time-table, that's what makes him God.

Profiteers and deceivers have done so for their own glory, that is why their interpretations are distorted.

This assessment regarding KAZAKHSTAN is not new but there are other witnesses and that is one reason why you should take note of this interpretation.

What makes it real is the Spirit of Truth which all of my generation are awakening to.  With the advent of these latest telecommunication technologies it is possible to glean hundreds of pages of information in a very short period of time.  With that comes the increase of knowledge and with the increase of knowledge the need to make a decision for or against God.


The more aware this world becomes of the deception that has been put around them, the sooner Christ returns.  Thus no longer will quatrains be interpreted after an event has

occurred. For all things spiritual will become more apparent and less mysterious, even skeptics will tremble. These are the first of many  true interpretations and there will be other young people to come and do the same.


If you believe the Parable and all that has been said is irrelevant, that is your choice and it was not given to you to know the times and seasons in which you live.



Also those demon worshippers are those you named as the Mayans.

Edited by THE INTERPRETER, 09 February 2012 - 03:22 AM.

[Englishgent]

THE INTERPRETER, on 09 February 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

Englishgent,

It was given by Divine inspiration and this can be considered a fact because these are the words of Nostradamus himself.

God can reveal the times and seasons of his own time-table, that's what makes him God.

Profiteers and deceivers have done so for their own glory, that is why their interpretations are distorted.

This assessment regarding KAZAKHSTAN is not new but there are other witnesses and that is one reason why you should take note of this interpretation.

What makes it real is the Spirit of Truth which all of my generation are awakening to.  With the advent of these latest telecommunication technologies it is possible to glean hundreds of pages of information in a very short period of time.  With that comes the increase of knowledge and with the increase of knowledge the need to make a decision for or against God.


The more aware this world becomes of the deception that has been put around them, the sooner Christ returns.  Thus no longer will quatrains be interpreted after an event has

occurred. For all things spiritual will become more apparent and less mysterious, even skeptics will tremble. These are the first of many  true interpretations and there will be other young people to come and do the same.


If you believe the Parable and all that has been said is irrelevant, that is your choice and it was not given to you to know the times and seasons in which you live.



Also those demon worshippers are those you named as the Mayans.

No Mr Interpreter. It cannot be considered a fact. The reason  being that there is no evidence that your god exists in the first place. therefore anything relating to that god cannot be considered as fact. Simple really.
And please, don't quote the bible to me as none of that can be proven either, no matter what you say or think.
As for the Mayans being demon worshipers, again I think you are wrong. They worshiped what they thought to be their god (wasn't it the sun?. I stand to be corrected on that one) Just as you worship what you believe to be your god. That does not make you any better, or worse, than the Mayans were.
You have as much right to think that your god is the real god as any other person who believes in a god but it does not mean you are correct in your belief and they are wrong in theirs.
Anything other than that sort of thinking is tunnel vision.
Have a dose of Englishgent's parable.....''Verily I say unto thee, take off those blinkers, open thy mind and you will see''   (ok, I know it isn't a parable in the true sense of the word)
The only difference with your parable and my parable is this. One of them is fact (and it isn't your's!)

edit, correction in spelling

Edited by Englishgent, 09 February 2012 - 04:31 AM.

[Paracelse]

THE INTERPRETER, on 09 February 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Paracelse,

You seem to compartmentalize cultures, for a mix of many is a culture in itself.

I do not mix anything.  The Celts who lived in this area of France were called the Senones they had nothing in common with those from the center of France called the Arvernes

THE INTERPRETER, on 09 February 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Read his letters which quote Christ and also contains his acknowledgement of him as the "True Savior".

If you wish to ignore his own writings would you then tell me where you get your information from?  If it is not from the man himself or the Lord himself then perhaps you do not seek the Truth?

Those who love the Truth will go to the LORD himself for it.

Actually in my search for truth I tend to stay away from anyone who calls him/herself messiah