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#31    Aus Der Box Skeptisch

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:14 PM

View PostTime Spy, on 21 July 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:



Light takes time to travel within the realm of our respective observation.  NASA does it's best, and at it's upmost understanding realizes that admitting their mistakes doesn't settle well with share holders nor grants of future fundamental factors.  Assuming much more than what is known is what they're really good at.  Such as proposing that with millions of stars bearing even more planets in just this galaxy alone, could possibly point to our planet being the only one with life evident to pertain is not only naive, selfish, ridiculous, but simply WRONG.  Life DID NOT originate on this planet.  Our DNA was put into a biological form in a world that changed because of mistakes made in the ecosystem.  Once upon a 'time' death was not even in the picture.  That 'time' will come again.
Does every single topic have a timespy explanation while everything is inherently wrong? Name one thing someone got right other than yourself please. Just for some perspective.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:17 PM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 21 July 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Does every single topic have a timespy explanation while everything is inherently wrong? Name one thing someone got right other than yourself please. Just for some perspective.

exactly
we all wrong


i jus give the reasons for theories... which are my beliefs

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:19 PM

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exactly
we all wrong


i jus give the reasons for theories... which are my beliefs
The voyage you are undertaking into theory is immense. I applaud even your attempt. I am still far from knowledgeable on the subject. Keep at it. OK I'm off for real now... have a great weekend everyone.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:25 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 21 July 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

we are here due to chaos -
the chaos theory

every individual animal plant and human are unique and so are planets
there is no planets out there like ours. we are hopin we can find something like it

we are the definition of life without us its no life
I get it, the universe is rolling two 50-sided dice and life only ever turns up when it roles a 2.
But surely given the size of the universe that pesky two must turn up more then once.

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I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 21 July 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

I get it, the universe is rolling two 50-sided dice and life only ever turns up when it roles a 2.
But surely given the size of the universe that pesky two must turn up more then once.

no the chaos theory means something happens that doesnt suppose to happen
a paradox or somn

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:42 PM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 21 July 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Does every single topic have a timespy explanation while everything is inherently wrong? Name one thing someone got right other than yourself please. Just for some perspective.

Easy now Aus, I express my opinion because that is how I understand it.  If I seem to think 'out of the box', don't take it personally.  You have the right to your opinion.   If you want perspective than shine a light from your own standpoint.   I thought we were cool with agreeing to disagree.  Like I said, I like your input.  If mine offends you, I apolegize, but that doesn't change my 'perspective'.  Do me a favor just don't put me on ignore.  I enjoy the feedback from yuou.  If everyone 'seen' it the same than what.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:48 PM

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Easy now Aus, I express my opinion because that is how I understand it.  If I seem to think 'out of the box', don't take it personally.  You have the right to your opinion.   If you want perspective than shine a light from your own standpoint.   I thought we were cool with agreeing to disagree.  Like I said, I like your input.  If mine offends you, I apolegize, but that doesn't change my 'perspective'.  Do me a favor just don't put me on ignore.  I enjoy the feedback from yuou.  If everyone 'seen' it the same than what.
Oh its cool no offense taken. Just wondering .

Oh and don't worry I don't ignore people.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:59 PM

Nice topic, shame about the CAPS.

Good feed back and talk, make for good reading.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:08 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 21 July 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

I get it, the universe is rolling two 50-sided dice and life only ever turns up when it roles a 2.
But surely given the size of the universe that pesky two must turn up more then once.

Very good point Wearer of Hats.  The chaos theory itself is naive, self absorbed and ridiculous.   The Universe is a multi complex system of interatctions between galaxies and solar systems...   Like a massive machine, engineered for a reason.   That reason IS life.  Denying or assuming that life is impossible is perposterous.  Just look in the mirror, there's proof.  I believe, so I am.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:13 AM

View PostSuper-Fly, on 21 July 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Nice topic, shame about the CAPS.

Good feed back and talk, make for good reading.

Thanks all!

I'd like to reply, while from my perspective.  Capitalization means emphasis not anger or 'screaming'.  Screaming is in all bold letters with exclamation points, and usually a larger font.  I only capitalize so that i can make a point to be heard clearly.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:17 AM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 21 July 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

SPACE AND TIME IS THE SAME THING. WHEN WE LOOK OUT INTO SPACE WE ARE LOOKING AT TIME.

I THINK THE EDGE OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM IS LIKE 40YEARS AWAY.SO IF WE SEE THE EDGE OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM FROM EARTH WE ARE SEEING IT 40 YEARS FROM WHERE ITS AT NOW

WE ALSO CAN LOOK BACK TO WHEN THE UNIVERSE FIRST STARTED AND IS NOTHING THERE AT FIRST

SO WHEN WE SEE PLANETS BEYOND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM WE ARE SEEING THEM A BILLION YEARS FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

SO IF WE FIND A PLANET THAT LOOKS LIKE LIFE IS ON IT WE ONLY SEEING IT A BILLION YEARS FROM WHERE IT IS NOW THE PLANET MIGHT BE LONG DEAD BY NOW PLUS IT WILL TAKE US A BILLION YEARS  TO GET THERE

SO WHEN WE GET THERE ONE CAN SAY IT WOULD BE 2 BILLION YEARS FROM THE TIME WE FIRST SEEN IT.

SO IN REALITY THAT PLANET WE SEE DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE
SO REALITY ANYTHING WE SEE A BILLION YEARS FROM US REALLY DOESNT EXIST TO US

THAT FACTOR ADDED WITH OTHER FACTORS IS MAKING IT HARD FOR MYSELF TO BELIEVE THAT LIFE OUT THERE EXIST.

OUR SPACE MIGHT BE VAST BUT IN SOME WAY WE CAN SAY ALL OF IT DOESNT EXIST TO US

WHAT YALL THINK ABOUT THAT?

Yes, we know that from Einstein's E=mc2. And, as others have said, please don't use all-capital letters.

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 21 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

no the chaos theory means something happens that doesnt suppose to happen
a paradox or somn

That isn't what chaos theory means. I suggest you look it up.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:21 AM

Well, i'm glad that's cleared up.    Now add in that in Expanding space  nothing is now , where you see it.
(Except objects within our local gravity influences.)   And,  that what APPEARED to be 4.2 billion light years away yesterday,  , if it still exists, will be farther away tomorrow..  Except for the Andromeda galaxy which is in a gravitational engagement, 'soon' to be wed,  with the Milky Way.

http://www.galaxydyn...org/tflops.html

  Here's a thought i often have about space. lol.     Space is expanding right?  ok...  then that means that ALL space is expanding, even the space in your living room?  It's just that local gravity and EM keeps local matter in it's place?
   ... picture the universe as a tub of water.   Now suspend a model solar system in the tub of water.  Now add more water/expansion.   Solar system stayed the same size didn't it?  .. even though space/water expanded all  around it.
Within it and Without it  .. ;)
    
Here's an even odder thought?     Space appears to expand faster the farther away from Any point in it.    . . !
It appears to expand faster the farther away from THIS point only because the "center" of the universe is  Everywhere •

talk about relativity!

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:42 AM

View Postlightly, on 22 July 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Well, i'm glad that's cleared up. Now add in that in Expanding space  nothing is now , where you see it.
(Except objects within our local gravity influences.)   And,  that what APPEARED to be 4.2 billion light years away yesterday,  , if it still exists, will be farther away tomorrow..  Except for the Andromeda galaxy which is in a gravitational engagement, 'soon' to be wed,  with the Milky Way.

http://www.galaxydyn...org/tflops.html

  Here's a thought i often have about space. lol. Space is expanding right?  ok...  then that means that ALL space is expanding, even the space in your living room?  It's just that local gravity and EM keeps local matter in it's place?
   ... picture the universe as a tub of water.   Now suspend a model solar system in the tub of water.  Now add more water/expansion.   Solar system stayed the same size didn't it?  .. even though space/water expanded all  around it.
Within it and Without it  .. ;)

Here's an even odder thought? Space appears to expand faster the farther away from Any point in it. . . !
It appears to expand faster the farther away from THIS point only because the "center" of the universe is  Everywhere •

talk about relativity!

Space is not in a continual expansion, that's insane, or just the constellations as we know it would be so far misfigured in any resemblance to yesteryear that they would be unrcognizable.   This 'expantion' crap is a BAD explanation to a very incorrect theory.   Hawking himself even came out in the open and admitted he was wrong.  Space contracts and it expands like a machine just as our revolution of the sun, and the likewise the moon's orbit of our planet.  The galaxy is in a 5200 year cycle.  Some 'times' it moves away in an appearance of expantion while in other eras or eons it pulls back in an inhalation.   THAT time is at hand, and soon all will witness.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:43 AM

View Postlightly, on 22 July 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Well, i'm glad that's cleared up. Now add in that in Expanding space  nothing is now , where you see it.
(Except objects within our local gravity influences.)   And,  that what APPEARED to be 4.2 billion light years away yesterday,  , if it still exists, will be farther away tomorrow..  Except for the Andromeda galaxy which is in a gravitational engagement, 'soon' to be wed,  with the Milky Way.

http://www.galaxydyn...org/tflops.html

  Here's a thought i often have about space. lol. Space is expanding right?  ok...  then that means that ALL space is expanding, even the space in your living room?  It's just that local gravity and EM keeps local matter in it's place?
   ... picture the universe as a tub of water.   Now suspend a model solar system in the tub of water.  Now add more water/expansion.   Solar system stayed the same size didn't it?  .. even though space/water expanded all  around it.
Within it and Without it  .. ;)

Here's an even odder thought? Space appears to expand faster the farther away from Any point in it. . . !
It appears to expand faster the farther away from THIS point only because the "center" of the universe is  Everywhere •

talk about relativity!
the space of outer space is expanding because they are constant actions and reactions goin on inside space.

i dnt think any star making and other cosmic events happening in our living room space
but idk thats a good question

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:51 AM

View PostTime Spy, on 22 July 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

Space is not in a continual expansion, that's insane, or just the constellations as we know it would be so far misfigured in any resemblance to yesteryear that they would be unrcognizable.   This 'explantion' crap is a BAD explanation to a very incorrect theory.   Hawking himself even came out in the open and admitted he was wrong.  Space contracts and it expands like a machine just as our revolution of the sun, and the likewise the moon's orbit of our planet.  The galaxy is in a 5200 year cycle.  Some 'times' it moves away while in other eras or eons it pulls back in an inhalation.   THAT time is at hand, and soon all will witness.

the universe is expanding and contracting.. when it contracts it expands more in continues

when a star dies/contracts........ it make new material and new stars by exploding/expands
everything in universe works like this even us earthlings ...we continues

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