Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * - - - 3 votes

Son of God Divi Filius Augustus Caesar


  • Please log in to reply
55 replies to this topic

#1    davros of skaro

davros of skaro

    Government Agent

  • Member
  • 3,515 posts
  • Joined:08 Sep 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Skaro

  • ", because in most cases men willingly believe what they wish."-Julius Caesar 'De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18'

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:08 AM

The great Comet of 44 BCE was seen as Julius Caesar's soul among the Gods.Octavian the grand nephew of Caesar,adopted son,and heir to his title became son of a God.

Augustus Caesar as Pontifex Maximus (Pope) started the Imperial Cult,and the Cult of Comet for the worship of the Deified Caesar.

Why do we not worship Caesar today? Watch the video,and feel free to comment.



Wiki for base reference


http://en.wikipedia....iki/Divi_filius
http://en.wikipedia....emple_of_Caesar
http://en.wikipedia....sar's_Comet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho
http://en.wikipedia....emple_of_Caesar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor
http://en.wikipedia....i/Flamen_Dialis

Posted Image
Man or myth?...View and share.
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MzrIHdN9O7M <-- "Ten Lies About Jesus"
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MclBbZUFSag <-- "Gospels=Myth Making"
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=79Lmmy2jfeo <-- "The Mythical Jesus"

#2    Paranoid Android

Paranoid Android

    ????????

  • 26,177 posts
  • Joined:17 Apr 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • Paranoid Android... One Mippippi, two Mippippi, three Mippipi....

Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:08 PM

Without watching any link, I submit exhibit A, thanks to the Walking Dead thread in this forum.

http://www.buzzfeed....ave-th?s=mobile

In any historical study we can choose to fit the facts into the story, or we can construct the story to fit the facts. From experience, the OP tends to construct a story and then fit the facts into that story.

The link I provided should show how such an approach is invalid.

Posted Image

My blog is now taking a new direction.  Dedicated to my father who was a great inspiration in my life, I wish to honour his memory (RIP, dad) by sharing with the world what he had always kept to himself.  More details, http://www.unexplain...showentry=27811

#3    Doug1o29

Doug1o29

    Telekinetic

  • Member
  • 6,685 posts
  • Joined:01 Aug 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:oklahoma

Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostParanoid Android, on 29 October 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

In any historical study we can choose to fit the facts into the story, or we can construct the story to fit the facts. From experience, the OP tends to construct a story and then fit the facts into that story.

The link I provided should show how such an approach is invalid.
With all due respect, PA, I've noticed you doing exactly that on some other threads.  I admit it is hard to do; thus, we need to be extremely careful in our analyses.  Usually, there aren't enough "facts" to justify anybody's interpretation.  Example:  Try to validate the traditional Christian viewpoint using only observable facts.
Doug

If I have seen farther than other men, it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants. --Bernard de Chartres
The beginning of knowledge is the realization that one doesn't and cannot know everything.
Science is the father of knowledge, but opinion breeds ignorance. --Hippocrates
Ignorance is not an opinion. --Adam Scott

#4    davros of skaro

davros of skaro

    Government Agent

  • Member
  • 3,515 posts
  • Joined:08 Sep 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Skaro

  • ", because in most cases men willingly believe what they wish."-Julius Caesar 'De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18'

Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostParanoid Android, on 29 October 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Without watching any link, I submit exhibit A, thanks to the Walking Dead thread in this forum.

http://www.buzzfeed....ave-th?s=mobile

In any historical study we can choose to fit the facts into the story, or we can construct the story to fit the facts. From experience, the OP tends to construct a story and then fit the facts into that story.

The link I provided should show how such an approach is invalid.

View PostParanoid Android, on 29 October 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Without watching any link, I submit exhibit A, thanks to the Walking Dead thread in this forum.

http://www.buzzfeed....ave-th?s=mobile

In any historical study we can choose to fit the facts into the story, or we can construct the story to fit the facts. From experience, the OP tends to construct a story and then fit the facts into that story.

The link I provided should show how such an approach is invalid.


The video I posted is backed by historical documentation, and physical proof.

You present Hollywood fiction.

Posted Image
Man or myth?...View and share.
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MzrIHdN9O7M <-- "Ten Lies About Jesus"
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MclBbZUFSag <-- "Gospels=Myth Making"
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=79Lmmy2jfeo <-- "The Mythical Jesus"

#5    Paranoid Android

Paranoid Android

    ????????

  • 26,177 posts
  • Joined:17 Apr 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • Paranoid Android... One Mippippi, two Mippippi, three Mippipi....

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:49 PM

View PostDoug1o29, on 29 October 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:


With all due respect, PA, I've noticed you doing exactly that on some other threads.  I admit it is hard to do; thus, we need to be extremely careful in our analyses.  Usually, there aren't enough "facts" to justify anybody's interpretation.  Example:  Try to validate the traditional Christian viewpoint using only observable facts.
Doug
Due to only having a phone and limited bandwidth I haven't seen the video, but the OP's track history suggests he's attempting to argue that Caesar is the template for the Jesus tale. In order to do this one must stretch the known facts and for them into a narrative. The link I provided showed the problem in this, since whoever constructed that web page was able to stretch the similarities to "prove" that a zombie-apocalypse episodic TV-show was based on a Family movie about cute talking toys. But if you look at the wider story of the two, there is almost nothing in common between Toy Story and The Walking Dead, let alone a reason to think that one of them copied the other.

In essence, Davros is taking the Jesus narrative, and attempting to force Julius Caesar's life into that narrative.

Posted Image

My blog is now taking a new direction.  Dedicated to my father who was a great inspiration in my life, I wish to honour his memory (RIP, dad) by sharing with the world what he had always kept to himself.  More details, http://www.unexplain...showentry=27811

#6    Paranoid Android

Paranoid Android

    ????????

  • 26,177 posts
  • Joined:17 Apr 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • Paranoid Android... One Mippippi, two Mippippi, three Mippipi....

Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:54 PM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 29 October 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

The video I posted is backed by historical documentation, and physical proof.

You present Hollywood fiction.
You missed my point. By taking superficial similarities and stretching/twisting them, it can be made to appear that two narratives are near-identical, but when you actually look at the content there is virtually nothing in common. In similar vein, you take the Jesus-narrative, and try and "fit" the life of Caesar into that narrative. Sorry Davros, but that's just not how a real historian conducts business.

Posted Image

My blog is now taking a new direction.  Dedicated to my father who was a great inspiration in my life, I wish to honour his memory (RIP, dad) by sharing with the world what he had always kept to himself.  More details, http://www.unexplain...showentry=27811

#7    The Gremlin

The Gremlin

    Gnawing at the ankles of Falsehood

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,993 posts
  • Joined:19 Feb 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cymru

  • sniffing the finger of truth

Posted 30 October 2013 - 03:46 PM

I also haven't watched the clip, but would argue that 'historians' of the period see how the 'son of god' had numerous prototypes in the Greco Roman world.

I rarely talk about such things but I once shoveled 18 tons of material in 11 min-
utes. It was under ideal conditions which allowed use of the legs and gravity
but I know no one who could have matched it and I do know work
.
...Cladking
If you were a dragon wouldn't you rather eat fat, alocohol fill, Nordic giants, than stringy little Chinamen?   Draconic Chronicler.
You claim you do research and then disregard the fact the Pyramids were built by God, which is why no man-made computer can replicate it.  The Interpreter

#8    davros of skaro

davros of skaro

    Government Agent

  • Member
  • 3,515 posts
  • Joined:08 Sep 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Skaro

  • ", because in most cases men willingly believe what they wish."-Julius Caesar 'De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18'

Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:37 AM

View PostParanoid Android, on 29 October 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

You missed my point. By taking superficial similarities and stretching/twisting them, it can be made to appear that two narratives are near-identical, but when you actually look at the content there is virtually nothing in common. In similar vein, you take the Jesus-narrative, and try and "fit" the life of Caesar into that narrative. Sorry Davros, but that's just not how a real historian conducts business.

You missed my point, because I am working with historical facts not childrens tales, and resurrected zombie drama. :whistle:


Julius Caesar 100 BCE- 44 BCE

Assassinated dictator of Rome.Later deified as a God thru the Great Comet of 44 BCE which
laid ground work for the Imperial Cult (first historical Roman to be officially deified.)

Caesar claimed lineage to his celestial mother the Goddess of love Venus (aka Morning
Star.)

Caesar practiced—and widely publicized—his policy of clemency (he would put no one to
death and confiscate no property).Caesar proposed a law for the redistribution of public
lands to the poor,In his will he also left a substantial gift to the citizens of Rome.

The Senate named Caesar dictator perpetuo ("dictator in perpetuity"). Roman mints
produced a denarius coin with this title and his profile on one side, and with an image
of the goddess Ceres and Caesar's title of Augur Pontifex Maximus on the reverse. While
minting the title of dictator was not controversial, Caesar's image was, as it was
unusual to feature living consuls and other public officials on coins during the Republic.

Suetonius also gives the story that a crowd shouted to him rex ("king"), to which Caesar
replied, "I am Caesar, not Rex".

The poet Virgil wrote in the Georgics (26 BCE) that several unusual events took place
following Caesar's assassination.

He,no other was moved to pity Rome on the day that Caesar died,when he veiled his
radiance in gloom,darkness,and a Godless age feared everlasting night.
He goes on to write:

The Alps rocked with Earthquakes.
Mount Etna hurled balls of fire.
Animals uttered speech,and showed signs that heralded disaster.
Booming voices heard in the falling darkness,and the Earth gaped open while rivers stood
still etc.

Besides his own writings "Commentaries Gallic Wars", other examples of historicity for
Julius Caesar includes.

~ Sallust (86-34BC);
~ Suetonius (c75-120AD)1
~ Plutarch (46-127AD).
~ Appian (c95-165AD)
~ Cicero
~ Dio Cassius
~ Livy
~ Lucan
~ Valerius Maximus
~ Vitruvius
~ Catullus
Plus:
~ inscriptions
~monuments
~statues
~coins

Augustus (Octavius) Caesar 63 BCE- 14 CE

Grand nephew, and adopted son of Julius Caesar in which he inherited his title.Rome's
first Emperor, and ushered in the Pax Romana which was peace across the Empire.As
Pontifex Maximus (Pope) he enacted the Imperial Cult, and the Cult of Comet for the
worship of Caesar.

Philo of Alexandria 20 BCE- 50 CE

Hellenistic Jewish philosopher born into Roman citizenship thanks beforehand to Julius
Caesar.He combined Jewish philosophy with Greek philosophy, and it's believed to have
influenced later Christology.He was a part of an embassy to Rome in 40 CE to prevent
Emperor Caligula erecting statues in synagogues, end turmoil between Alexandrian Jewish
and Greek communities.Philo sourced Jewish scripture from the Septuagint (Greek
translation of the Old Testament), and used concept  of "Logos".Logos is a celestial high priest
that is a shadow of God which is the expiator of sins, mediator, and advocate for men.

http://en.wikipedia....f_God#The_Logos (see Logos)

Jesus 6 BCE- 33 CE?

Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus , have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.

Son of God, and saviour.There is no contemporary mention of Jesus by anyone, but
historians know that "argument from silence" is a fallacy , and does not negate
historicity.Most scholars agree that Jesus existed, but keep in mind taboos associated
with talking about religion.In reality the Gospels, and the Pauline Epistles are the only
evidence for Jesus.

In 1909 John Remsburg published The Christ, and he lists 42 silent writers at around the
time of Jesus.

http://www.positivea...st/rmsbrg02.htm

Additional cited references;

http://rationalwiki....of_Jesus_Christ

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Apostle Paul aka Saul of Tarsus circa 5 BCE?- circa 67 CE? The letters of Paul that are
considered non-psuedogrphical talks of a Jesus that is more like Philo's Logos than a
historical person.

http://rationalwiki..../Paul_of_Tarsus

The Pauline Epistles date from 51-58 CE, and Paul does not claim to have met Jesus, but a
post resurrection revelation.

http://en.wikipedia....auline_epistles

The four Canonical Gospels are named Mark, Matthew etc out of church tradition, because
the authors are unknown.As evidenced by many scholars they are sourced from the
Septuagint for Old Testament references, and contain many contradictions to each other.

Mark 65-70 CE
Matthew 75-80 CE
Luke 75-90 CE
John 85-100? CE

John 1:35-1:42 says Jesus's first disciples,are also disciples of John the Baptist,which
are Andrew,and brother Simon Peter along the Jordan river.Matthew 4:18 says his first
disciples are fishing in the Sea of Galilee.

Did he go to Egypt after his birth? (Matt 2:12-15)
Or did his parents take him straight back to Nazareth? (Luke 2:39)

At his trial before Pilate, did Jesus remain silent? (Matt 27:14)
Or did he answer all questions put to him? (John 18:33-37)

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Septuagint
http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/0879755725
http://www.npr.org/t...ryId=124572693

Coins of Divi Filius Son of God.

Attached Files


Posted Image
Man or myth?...View and share.
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MzrIHdN9O7M <-- "Ten Lies About Jesus"
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MclBbZUFSag <-- "Gospels=Myth Making"
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=79Lmmy2jfeo <-- "The Mythical Jesus"

#9    Skep B

Skep B

    Savant of Depravity

  • Member
  • 5,280 posts
  • Joined:02 Aug 2013
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:42 AM

Quote

, and resurrected zombie drama.

And I think that clears up who missed what point.

I've seen **** that'll turn you WHITE!


#10    davros of skaro

davros of skaro

    Government Agent

  • Member
  • 3,515 posts
  • Joined:08 Sep 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Skaro

  • ", because in most cases men willingly believe what they wish."-Julius Caesar 'De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18'

Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:43 AM

View PostThe Gremlin, on 30 October 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I also haven't watched the clip, but would argue that 'historians' of the period see how the 'son of god' had numerous prototypes in the Greco Roman world.

How many of these claimed offspring of a God can be traced to an actual historical person in the Greco Roman world?

Posted Image
Man or myth?...View and share.
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MzrIHdN9O7M <-- "Ten Lies About Jesus"
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MclBbZUFSag <-- "Gospels=Myth Making"
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=79Lmmy2jfeo <-- "The Mythical Jesus"

#11    ambelamba

ambelamba

    Just an average guy who tries to be...NORMAL!!!!

  • Member
  • 3,384 posts
  • Joined:26 Mar 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Entertainment Capital of the World

  • It's good to be mildly skeptical to remain sane. But too much of it will make you a douche.

Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:55 AM

I just wonder what would have happened if this was done: A stack of indestructible books containing the foundation of modern scientific principles, written in Latin, were left to the 1st century Roman empire...by thousands.

Barry Allen Edit: Anybody consider Ebionites as the true followers of Jesus of Nazareth?

Edited by ambelamba, 31 October 2013 - 12:56 AM.

They came with a Bible and their religion. stole our land, crushed our spirit, and now they tell us we should be thankful to the Lord for being saved.

-Chief Pontiac (1718-1769)

#12    davros of skaro

davros of skaro

    Government Agent

  • Member
  • 3,515 posts
  • Joined:08 Sep 2013
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Skaro

  • ", because in most cases men willingly believe what they wish."-Julius Caesar 'De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18'

Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:29 AM

View Postambelamba, on 31 October 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

I just wonder what would have happened if this was done: A stack of indestructible books containing the foundation of modern scientific principles, written in Latin, were left to the 1st century Roman empire...by thousands.

Barry Allen Edit: Anybody consider Ebionites as the true followers of Jesus of Nazareth?

That would be interesting, and I imagine Hypatia would not have died a brutal death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia

Did Ebionites exist?

Posted Image
Man or myth?...View and share.
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MzrIHdN9O7M <-- "Ten Lies About Jesus"
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=MclBbZUFSag <-- "Gospels=Myth Making"
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=79Lmmy2jfeo <-- "The Mythical Jesus"

#13    Paranoid Android

Paranoid Android

    ????????

  • 26,177 posts
  • Joined:17 Apr 2005
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • Paranoid Android... One Mippippi, two Mippippi, three Mippipi....

Posted 31 October 2013 - 02:21 AM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 31 October 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:



You missed my point, because I am working with historical facts not childrens tales, and resurrected zombie drama. :whistle:
They are still two narratives unrelated to one another that appear similar if you stretch some random facts to appear similar


Quote


Julius Caesar 100 BCE- 44 BCE

Assassinated dictator of Rome.Later deified as a God thru the Great Comet of 44 BCE which
laid ground work for the Imperial Cult (first historical Roman to be officially deified.)

Caesar claimed lineage to his celestial mother the Goddess of love Venus (aka Morning
Star.)

Caesar practiced—and widely publicized—his policy of clemency (he would put no one to
death and confiscate no property).Caesar proposed a law for the redistribution of public
lands to the poor,In his will he also left a substantial gift to the citizens of Rome.

The Senate named Caesar dictator perpetuo ("dictator in perpetuity"). Roman mints
produced a denarius coin with this title and his profile on one side, and with an image
of the goddess Ceres and Caesar's title of Augur Pontifex Maximus on the reverse. While
minting the title of dictator was not controversial, Caesar's image was, as it was
unusual to feature living consuls and other public officials on coins during the Republic.

Suetonius also gives the story that a crowd shouted to him rex ("king"), to which Caesar
replied, "I am Caesar, not Rex".

The poet Virgil wrote in the Georgics (26 BCE) that several unusual events took place
following Caesar's assassination.

He,no other was moved to pity Rome on the day that Caesar died,when he veiled his
radiance in gloom,darkness,and a Godless age feared everlasting night.
He goes on to write:

The Alps rocked with Earthquakes.
Mount Etna hurled balls of fire.
Animals uttered speech,and showed signs that heralded disaster.
Booming voices heard in the falling darkness,and the Earth gaped open while rivers stood
still etc.

Besides his own writings "Commentaries Gallic Wars", other examples of historicity for
Julius Caesar includes.

~ Sallust (86-34BC);
~ Suetonius (c75-120AD)1
~ Plutarch (46-127AD).
~ Appian (c95-165AD)
~ Cicero
~ Dio Cassius
~ Livy
~ Lucan
~ Valerius Maximus
~ Vitruvius
~ Catullus
Plus:
~ inscriptions
~monuments
~statues
~coins

Augustus (Octavius) Caesar 63 BCE- 14 CE

Grand nephew, and adopted son of Julius Caesar in which he inherited his title.Rome's
first Emperor, and ushered in the Pax Romana which was peace across the Empire.As
Pontifex Maximus (Pope) he enacted the Imperial Cult, and the Cult of Comet for the
worship of Caesar.

Philo of Alexandria 20 BCE- 50 CE

Hellenistic Jewish philosopher born into Roman citizenship thanks beforehand to Julius
Caesar.He combined Jewish philosophy with Greek philosophy, and it's believed to have
influenced later Christology.He was a part of an embassy to Rome in 40 CE to prevent
Emperor Caligula erecting statues in synagogues, end turmoil between Alexandrian Jewish
and Greek communities.Philo sourced Jewish scripture from the Septuagint (Greek
translation of the Old Testament), and used concept  of "Logos".Logos is a celestial high priest
that is a shadow of God which is the expiator of sins, mediator, and advocate for men.

http://en.wikipedia....f_God#The_Logos (see Logos)

Jesus 6 BCE- 33 CE?

Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus , have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the
churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.

Son of God, and saviour.There is no contemporary mention of Jesus by anyone, but
historians know that "argument from silence" is a fallacy , and does not negate
historicity.Most scholars agree that Jesus existed, but keep in mind taboos associated
with talking about religion.In reality the Gospels, and the Pauline Epistles are the only
evidence for Jesus.

In 1909 John Remsburg published The Christ, and he lists 42 silent writers at around the
time of Jesus.

http://www.positivea...st/rmsbrg02.htm

Additional cited references;

http://rationalwiki....of_Jesus_Christ

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Apostle Paul aka Saul of Tarsus circa 5 BCE?- circa 67 CE? The letters of Paul that are
considered non-psuedogrphical talks of a Jesus that is more like Philo's Logos than a
historical person.

http://rationalwiki..../Paul_of_Tarsus

The Pauline Epistles date from 51-58 CE, and Paul does not claim to have met Jesus, but a
post resurrection revelation.

http://en.wikipedia....auline_epistles

The four Canonical Gospels are named Mark, Matthew etc out of church tradition, because
the authors are unknown.As evidenced by many scholars they are sourced from the
Septuagint for Old Testament references, and contain many contradictions to each other.

Mark 65-70 CE
Matthew 75-80 CE
Luke 75-90 CE
John 85-100? CE

John 1:35-1:42 says Jesus's first disciples,are also disciples of John the Baptist,which
are Andrew,and brother Simon Peter along the Jordan river.Matthew 4:18 says his first
disciples are fishing in the Sea of Galilee.

Did he go to Egypt after his birth? (Matt 2:12-15)
Or did his parents take him straight back to Nazareth? (Luke 2:39)

At his trial before Pilate, did Jesus remain silent? (Matt 27:14)
Or did he answer all questions put to him? (John 18:33-37)

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Septuagint
http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/0879755725
http://www.npr.org/t...ryId=124572693

Coins of Divi Filius Son of God.
Is it just me or does it seem that people obsessed with one conspiracy theory or another is compelled to copy-paste their alleged evidence over and over, as if anyone reading it will shout "Hallelujah, you've really figured it out".

Edited by Paranoid Android, 31 October 2013 - 02:24 AM.

Posted Image

My blog is now taking a new direction.  Dedicated to my father who was a great inspiration in my life, I wish to honour his memory (RIP, dad) by sharing with the world what he had always kept to himself.  More details, http://www.unexplain...showentry=27811

#14    ambelamba

ambelamba

    Just an average guy who tries to be...NORMAL!!!!

  • Member
  • 3,384 posts
  • Joined:26 Mar 2008
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Entertainment Capital of the World

  • It's good to be mildly skeptical to remain sane. But too much of it will make you a douche.

Posted 31 October 2013 - 04:41 AM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 31 October 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

Did Ebionites exist?

Very briefly.

They came with a Bible and their religion. stole our land, crushed our spirit, and now they tell us we should be thankful to the Lord for being saved.

-Chief Pontiac (1718-1769)

#15    The Gremlin

The Gremlin

    Gnawing at the ankles of Falsehood

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,993 posts
  • Joined:19 Feb 2007
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cymru

  • sniffing the finger of truth

Posted 31 October 2013 - 10:17 AM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 31 October 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:



How many of these claimed offspring of a God can be traced to an actual historical person in the Greco Roman world?

Caesar was voted posthumous divine honours. Demetrius poliorcetes was voted divine honours whilst he was alive. Lysander was another, there are more, including Alexander and his father Phil. Both who had divine honours awarded during their lives. More than anyone it is likely that Alexander paved the way for peoples acceptance of the concept in the Greek and Roman world

I rarely talk about such things but I once shoveled 18 tons of material in 11 min-
utes. It was under ideal conditions which allowed use of the legs and gravity
but I know no one who could have matched it and I do know work
.
...Cladking
If you were a dragon wouldn't you rather eat fat, alocohol fill, Nordic giants, than stringy little Chinamen?   Draconic Chronicler.
You claim you do research and then disregard the fact the Pyramids were built by God, which is why no man-made computer can replicate it.  The Interpreter




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users