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15 States have filed a petition to secede


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#31    WoIverine

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:22 PM

If all blue states actually seceded, they wouldn't financially survive as there's no way they could pay for their own welfare state programs.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

View PostWoIverine, on 12 November 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

If all blue states actually seceded, they wouldn't financially survive as there's no way they could pay for their own welfare state programs.

I tend to doubt that as most taxes are collected in the blue states.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:24 PM

Doesn't really matter, we'll never know anyway.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:27 PM

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If all blue states actually seceded, they wouldn't financially survive as there's no way they could pay for their own welfare state programs.

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I tend to doubt that as most taxes are collected in the blue states.

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Doesn't really matter, we'll never know anyway.



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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:32 PM

Yeah, where I come from here in the US, it takes X number of signatures to even make it on a ballot, which usually, not always, a very small percentage of the state registered voters.
Then, that "referendum" is voted on by the entire state at some point in the next election cycle.

Very few rediculous referendums are even passed by the state.

Actual state secession from the US also becomes further inherently difficult, as the US Congress must approve the secession.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

View Postpallidin, on 12 November 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Yeah, where I come from here in the US, it takes X number of signatures to even make it on a ballot, which usually, not always, a very small percentage of the state registered voters.
Then, that "referendum" is voted on by the entire state at some point in the next election cycle.

Very few rediculous referendums are even passed by the state.

Actual state secession from the US also becomes further inherently difficult, as the US Congress must approve the secession.

There are a few exceptions, like Texas that could secede unilaterally (as negotiated in the accession to the Union), but for the most part it is not that easy, especially not if they want to be recognized internationally after breaking away.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 12 November 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

There are a few exceptions, like Texas that could secede unilaterally (as negotiated in the accession to the Union), but for the most part it is not that easy, especially not if they want to be recognized internationally after breaking away.


Remindes me of Quebec, not a chance they could make it on there own or would be far worse off with out Canada.  All this is silly talk.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

I would certainly be happy to let the South go its own way.  We would have a better country without them and they would be happy forming their own racist Bible Thumper Confederacy.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:39 PM

I think some  states would just like to be left alone and allowed to fend for themselves without the Federal government dictating everything to them.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostClyde the Glyde, on 12 November 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

I think some  states would just like to be left alone and allowed to fend for themselves without the Federal government dictating everything to them.

That is their right, but then they should not scream if somebody takes their pork barrel away too.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 12 November 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

I would certainly be happy to let the South go its own way.  We would have a better country without them and they would be happy forming their own racist Bible Thumper Confederacy.

Way to generalize!! I love it when someone lumps a whole group of people together in judgement while calling them racist. While Southerners aren't a race per se, you're still judging an entire demographic of people while condemning them for basically doing what you just did. :no: :td:

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 12 November 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:




Remindes me of Quebec, not a chance they could make it on there own or would be far worse off with out Canada.  All this is silly talk.
It is silly talk. Texas can't secede from the nation.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

Because Romney would have been so different.

I do find it amusing how so many conservatives justify treason. They're more loyal to money and Jesus than this nation.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:20 PM

And when they need federal money they will be begging to come back.LOL!


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:21 PM

And when they need federal money they will be begging to come back.LOL!





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