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Are Extraterrestrials Really Demons?


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#361    psyche101

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:05 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 19 April 2013 - 02:39 AM, said:

That attitude is the height of arrogance and ignorance. Some people indeed experience unique events that the rest of us don't. Who are we to say that *all* of them were just mistaken in their interpretations of their personal experiences? Now *that's* true hubris.


By the same token, who is qualified to verify the supernatural? One thing we do have here is a common denominator, human error. One cannot base conclusions totally on a visual aspect, nor a belief.

Edited by psyche101, 19 April 2013 - 08:05 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

Welll I would think the supernatural would exibit the same kind of things in a lot of peoples minds, if suddenly my comforter started floating in the air would you call that supernatural?

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:01 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 19 April 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Welll I would think the supernatural would exibit the same kind of things in a lot of peoples minds, if suddenly my comforter started floating in the air would you call that supernatural?
Unless you live in Texas then it could be a twister,or Explosion next door ! Just saying? :tu:

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 19 April 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

By the same token, who is qualified to verify the supernatural? One thing we do have here is a common denominator, human error. One cannot base conclusions totally on a visual aspect, nor a belief.

Some claims are valid. Some claims are invalid. It's not accurate or fair to say that all witnesses are dishonest or mistaken when you have no evidence to do so. Take each case on its own particular merits.

There is one reality with billions of versions.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:13 AM

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Unless you live in Texas then it could be a twister,or Explosion next door ! Just saying? :tu:
Do you live in Texas ?

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:13 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Some claims are valid. Some claims are invalid. It's not accurate or fair to say that all witnesses are dishonest or mistaken when you have no evidence to do so. Take each case on its own particular merits.

Most people do. But we all know that eyewitnesses are notorious for getting things wrong. And we also know that the internet is smack full of hoaxes and liers.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:23 AM

View PostDBunker, on 20 April 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Most people do. But we all know that eyewitnesses are notorious for getting things wrong. And we also know that the internet is smack full of hoaxes and liers.

That's true. It's not fair to reflexively put all claimants in the same category, though.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:53 AM

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Do you live in Texas ?
Ya cuddnt tell Man?

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:53 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 20 April 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Ya cuddnt tell Man?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:00 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Some claims are valid. Some claims are invalid. It's not accurate or fair to say that all witnesses are dishonest or mistaken when you have no evidence to do so. Take each case on its own particular merits.


Don't physics count?

It's even less accurate to accept an outcome as accurate when based upon a statistic too.

Has any supernatural example ever managed to leave the realm of the supernatural and make it's way into the real world? As such, how is it valid to state that some claims are indeed valid, when not one has ever come close to being proven as factual?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:31 AM

they seem to be more frightened than us.... link

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:58 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Some claims are valid. Some claims are invalid. It's not accurate or fair to say that all witnesses are dishonest or mistaken when you have no evidence to do so. Take each case on its own particular merits.
You make an absurdity sound so sensible.  When people are claiming lala, the presumption that they are dishonest or mistaken is valid all the time.  Absence of evidence to do so is not needed; evidence not to do so is essential.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:00 AM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 20 April 2013 - 02:23 AM, said:

That's true. It's not fair to reflexively put all claimants in the same category, though.
It's perfectly fair to put all claimants of the same thing in the same category.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:56 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 19 April 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Welll I would think the supernatural would exibit the same kind of things in a lot of peoples minds, if suddenly my comforter started floating in the air would you call that supernatural?

Not at all, not without a thorough investigation.

Some people might think something like this is supernatural. But it's not.




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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:58 AM

View Postmcrom901, on 22 April 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

they seem to be more frightened than us.... link

:unsure2:

So that is where they found him huh?

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