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#1    Drayno

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:12 PM



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

Well the Nazi's where the ones who took the guns away from the public... so....

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

That's a common belief but it's not true.  Totalitarian gov'ts do not trust their citizens....we are taught that in school.  The Socialist Party of Germany did not fear it's citizens.  Hitler was the most popular leader Germany ever had.  He never had to worry about someone shooting him as they do in the US.  The notion of banning firearm ownership was totallly alien to National Socialism.  Before Hitler even got into power the previous gov't put lots of restrictions on gun ownership but when Hitler came into power he changed all that.  He encouraged the people to own guns and beleived it was important for a man's character.  Again, the firearms law enacted by Hitler's government enhanced the rights of Germans to keep and bear arms; no new restrictions were added, and many pre-existing restrictions were relaxed or eliminated.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:42 PM

View Postsslama, on 23 January 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

That's a common belief but it's not true.  Totalitarian gov'ts do not trust their citizens....we are taught that in school.  The Socialist Party of Germany did not fear it's citizens.  Hitler was the most popular leader Germany ever had.  He never had to worry about someone shooting him as they do in the US.  The notion of banning firearm ownership was totallly alien to National Socialism.  Before Hitler even got into power the previous gov't put lots of restrictions on gun ownership but when Hitler came into power he changed all that.  He encouraged the people to own guns and beleived it was important for a man's character.  Again, the firearms law enacted by Hitler's government enhanced the rights of Germans to keep and bear arms; no new restrictions were added, and many pre-existing restrictions were relaxed or eliminated.


Oh my by mistake then. I was told different. Obviously was wrong.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:51 PM

Oliver Stone has on TV a documentary out now....about the untold history of the US...10 part series.  It's really good and shows the truth about the US and it's past.  You can see why they are not liked around the world.  It's an eye opener.  I think the last episode in on next Sunday.  It's worth watching if you are interested in the truth.  http://www.guardian....air-obama-video

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

View PostCoffey, on 23 January 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Well the Nazi's where the ones who took the guns away from the public... so....

The irony  lol..

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

As World War I drew to a close, the new Weimar Republic government banned nearly all private gun ownership to comply with the Treaty of Versailles and mandated that all guns and ammunition "be surrendered immediately." The law was loosened in 1928, and gun permits were granted to citizens "of undoubted reliability" (in the law's words) but not "persons who are itinerant like Gypsies." In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed, and the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

This is despicable, trying to slander a organization without any proof? NRA should sue this group for slander and so should the gun owners. Real Americans protect and understand their constitution. Seriously getting tired of immigrants from other nations coming to my country, then trying to change the foundation of our nation because the concept is foreign. Then there is the liberals... don't get me started on them. They can do other productive things instead of slander or try to shred my constitution rights apart, it is sickening.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

Germany was disarmed by the Treaty of Versailles, among its other punishing sanctions for losing WWI.   Hitler wanted nothing more than to arm his Aryan race to the teeth and that's exactly what he did.  Compulsory service to his hyper-nationalistic quasi-fascist dreamland was also a big part of the deal.   Men sitting around wastefully clutching their privately owned guns and Bibles at home didn't serve his interests.   Joining the Hitler Youth and indoctrinating yourself from a tender young age for the greater glory of the Reich, did.  Or ultimately, at a stiff old age in the Volkssturm.

To address the OP, the 2nd Amendment is more relevant today than it ever was.  Much of the problem with our collective mindset is a failure to understand the wording of it correctly.   It would be politically impossible to reword the right to bear arms because the government we have today doesn't have the conscience that our Founders did.   But if it were any manner of politically possible, a couple of letters in a single word would change so that some of our people don't get lost in their own deliberate or accidental misunderstandings, and the 2nd Amendment would read today:

A well regulated Military being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Responsible Gun Owners are the Victims here.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

View Poststevemagegod, on 23 January 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Responsible Gun Owners are the Victims here.

Welcome to life in the UK, matey!

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

I have much respect for the veteran in this video, for one, for serving his country.

As he said, "for oil, for the banks, or for whatever."

But he fought for the rights of every one in the room at that forum.

Some times it takes the person who fought for you to knock a little sense into you for taking your rights for granted.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

Just noticed a few of your Avatars in this thread and for a minute thought, Sauron disarming the free people of Middle Earth would've completely secured his domination of all Arda.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

What I don't understand is why we take anybody who claims that...... (fill in as needed) is a Nazi seriously. They have disqualified themselves by using that comparision.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 23 January 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

What I don't understand is why we take anybody who claims that Hitler is a Nazi seriously. They have disqualified themselves by using that comparision.
Even that?





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