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[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

nohands on Feb 1 2008, 08:30 AM, said:

i dont care about skeptics as long as I myself knows about the real unreal world.
Rolci nice to read you hehe,, can i ask what is your experience with chi?? since im into it i dont know the real
essence of it even though I always read about it....i would like to hear other thought on it.

Wow.  

[Rolci]

nohands on Feb 1 2008, 02:30 PM, said:

i dont care about skeptics as long as I myself knows about the real unreal world.
Rolci nice to read you hehe,, can i ask what is your experience with chi?? since im into it i dont know the real
essence of it even though I always read about it....i would like to hear other thought on it.

I personally have never been involved in the power of chi, and not sure i should believe it. I have seen a video in which this skeptic is standing in front of a seven-degree black belt and seems to be immune to his chi attacks. The master's explanation is that it doesn't work on skeptics. But what's new? Send a skeptic to a seance, they will tell there is a skeptic sitting in the room - who will make the whole seance not work. Take a believer - he'll most probably come out with a story to tell that's just like thousands others. And whether you believe it or not, it's up to you. If you're a skeptic, you probably will want to see it for yourself, which is not possible, so your loss. This phenomenon is consistent so I'm pretty sure there's a law that guides this. Maybe the presence of the brainwawes of a skeptic person is of such qualities that it disrupts the field someone is trying to generate that would manifest as a supernatural/psychic phenomenon. So these skeptics can wait for their proof forever. Anyway, as for chi, here is a video that I find interesting, bending metal rods supported against the front part of their necks where there are no muscles and a couple more stunts like that:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=co6G-vyAlII&NR=1

and a bonus one for you:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs8mblcgTsk

Edited by Rolci, 01 February 2008 - 11:00 PM.

[Nucular]

Rolci on Feb 1 2008, 10:55 PM, said:

The master's explanation is that it doesn't work on skeptics. But what's new? Send a skeptic to a seance, they will tell there is a skeptic sitting in the room - who will make the whole seance not work. Take a believer - he'll most probably come out with a story to tell that's just like thousands others. And whether you believe it or not, it's up to you. If you're a skeptic, you probably will want to see it for yourself, which is not possible, so your loss. This phenomenon is consistent so I'm pretty sure there's a law that guides this. Maybe the presence of the brainwawes of a skeptic person is of such qualities that it disrupts the field someone is trying to generate that would manifest as a supernatural/psychic phenomenon. So these skeptics can wait for their proof forever.

Yes, that would be a convenient 'law' for believers to cite, wouldn't it.

Sceptics are the most powerful psychics of all, but only use their powers to disrupt any supernatural event.

And presumably it has nothing to do with sceptics being more likely to critically assess what might be going on, and to spot trickery and subterfuge?

At any rate, I think your 'law' is undermined by the fact that most sceptics will likely have been present at some form of alleged psychic event in the past, and have found that, whilst the events happen in front of them, they can likely see what is actually happening.  For example, I've had 'chi' demonstrations performed in front of me; and everything that the demonstrater said would happen, happened; but to me it had quite a mundane explanation.  My brainwaves didn't scupper the performance once, there was no need.

[ammy]

I wish I was equally psychic,so much I could do with that power*good things of corse* I guess some of us are just willing to aknowledge those types of abilities and work on it,and others who close their minds ignore it and it dissappears.I'll be quiet now X).

[vikstar]

I was a skeptic but I had a really strong intutional (intution) experience one time last year. Damn, even now when I think about it, I have no way to explain it other than something abnormal/guiding light/predestined future whatever you call it and it sort of convinced me cuz there were no mediums/psychics involved, just me... and I was never into meditations, gods etc.

But Yeah I understand skeptics as I would have been a skeptic if it wouldn't be for that one experience as its pretty hard to believe in these things. Even now though, I am skeptical on especially mediums or whoever those people who claim to chat with dead.

I won't be suprised if proof is found in next decade or so of bodily survival and if we survive death than anything is possible.

Also check out conferences on http://www.esalenctr.org/display/survival.cfm . Even award winning quantamn physicist Henry Stapp comes over here to give his views.


But finally what I think is there are people out there that won't believe in this until they experience some things themselves.

Edited by vikstar, 19 March 2008 - 09:46 AM.

[Mr.Dot]

It was remote viewed that Irak was manufacturing nuclear weapons

[cartoast]

screw scientific proof and screw non believers. their ignorance will drive them to madness when all is revealed. when all is revealed, one will have to have an open mind and be very flexible. ignorant nonbelievers will go mad will simply be unable to accept the the truth. it is said that in the new cosmic order that is to come, only enlightened people will survrive. cause what will happen will be so great, that a simple human mind simply canno take that much change at once.

[Caana]

I think the biggest roadblock, is thinking about ability's as power. Through my own experiances, as i started to think of them as ability's that have alway's been a part of human being's, me at least, was when i learned the most about what i have.

The power trip thing is a danger in any field or situation, and should'nt be construed as such. Cute kiddo by the way, i still carry a picture of my daughter and son, when they were that age.

[ships-cat]

Wallydraigle on Jan 31 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

Telepathy isn't real.  The article speaks for itself.


I mean, come on.  Maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't, but to hold up a silly article from this ridiculous website as irrefutable proof is comical.  To talk down to folks who need further convincing is arrogant.  Anyone can put anything on the internet.  The Daily Mail proves it.  This post proves it further.  The Daily Mail article sites no references, is not peer reviewed, and is authored by a man who also writes about crying virgin Marry statues, psychic healing, and photos of angels.

Thats not fair Wally'... the Daily Mail article credits the primary source very clearly - Dr Roe at Northampton University (amongst others).

carpost on Mar 23 2008, 02:55 AM, said:

screw scientific proof and screw non believers. their ignorance will drive them to madness when all is revealed. when all is revealed, one will have to have an open mind and be very flexible. ignorant nonbelievers will go mad will simply be unable to accept the the truth. it is said that in the new cosmic order that is to come, only enlightened people will survrive. cause what will happen will be so great, that a simple human mind simply canno take that much change at once.

Though I wander into the valley of the skeptics, I shall fear no contradiction, for thine tinfoil helmet comforteth me...

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