Ooh! This Investigator?...That Investigator?

[FrankBlunt]

Hello, All,

I was quite clear in stating that I would not be returning, but I'm not perfect, and to say that our brothers and sisters are teachers and that you should learn from them does not even begin to rectify severe wrongdoings from the past. This is going to be difficult for many of you to read, and I apologize in advance. However, I feel that this message is essential in maintaining future harmony amidst the pleasure and tragedy of our world.

Below is a letter I sent to a parnormal investigation team. I am awaiting their response at this time:

Dear [insert any paranormal investigator entity name here],

Please do not be frightened by the subject matter of

my recent message. Impossible as it sounds, the

dealings I describe are fully legitimate. There have

been a variety of nutty folks throughout history

claiming to be the second coming. Personally, I find

the whole idea ridiculous, and I wish it weren't true

if in fact it is. It's clear to me that Christ was

wrong 2000 years ago, and it was pride and foolishness

that caused him to cast down the spirits we now

describe as demons.

All souls are sons and daughters of God with equal

potential. Christ's head became inflated when the

superpowers emerged. He, possibly I [Who knows?],

developed a God complex, discounted the benefits of

demons' labors, and, in the end, was a huge [expletive]

who deserved being stapled to that crucifix. Did he

have the best of intentions? I suppose he may have.

It cost him his life, and while the education

curriculum was flawed, I don't think he's any less of

a hero in the eyes of many for that which meant his

own demise.

The worship of a savior is moronic, and faith is meant

to be empowering, not oppressive. Everyone can

develop these abilities through humility. That's what

so few people understand about depression. There's an

abundance of happiness when the depression hits that

lowest of states and brings peace via one's perception

of insignificance in the vastness of the universe.

And it makes no difference whether one is Buddhist,

Taoist, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Pagan... It's all

about defining God for oneself and allowing persistent

moments of joy to enter the soul on that basis.

You'll notice from my posts on Unexplained Mysteries

that I testify to many of the paranormal abilities.

They're trivial, and I exploited the stories

surrounding them in an attempt to bring forward those

who had been victimized by family, friends, peers,

therapists, and skeptics. The telekinetic ability I

described on the site has not been exercised in well

over 20 years, but it may one day return. Who knows?

Who cares? Two different varieties of energy healing

ability remain, and those are the abilities I

treasure. They've come at a social cost, but I still

label them gifts: perhaps a 70/30 gift-curse ratio.

For this, I have been persecuted, but I also have made

a few wonderful friends with those who were dashing

toward the path of suicide and taking nonsense advice

from ivory tower therapists. Thankfully, the Internet

provides a fair amount of shelter from the dangerous

behavior of militant fundamentalists who may have

prevented my message from being conveyed in its

entirety.

Since the Autumn of 1999, I had been seeing spirits on

a nightly basis. Although they had no affect upon my

emotions since 2001, they were present nonetheless.

Upon resolving the issues with the gentleman of whom I

spoke, no spirits have made themselves visible to me

in the night. And he had agreed to cast them away,

but not explicitly. Being that the spirits had no

affect on me in the first place, it wasn't clear that

his statement to "Stop shaking things" would be in

reference to such. In any event, they're gone.

One might expect a person of that stature to strike

fear into his worst of enemies, but not only did he

refrain from using the supernatural powers I know full

well he possesses, our exchanges were filled with

apologies, were more comparable to humility

competitions, and in no way became argumentative.

Some punk trying to frighten others may have used the

superpowers, but Satan is a gentleman whose purpose

simply differs from mainstream thoughts of holy

goodness.

Humility is absolutely essential for one to deal with

him. I had to be honest about every thought in my

head, and openly admit to the previous attempt on my

part to test one of the members of his collective. It

was a study of the spirit's emotional state with the

ultimate goal of healing, but many of these spirits

are out of touch with their emotions and may not wish

to recover. Their emphasis upon the superpowers is

necessary to effectively feed upon the weaknesses that

develop in humans.

Lastly, I did not provide my location to the public at

any time on the website, but this man who I firmly

believe to be Satan [Not his website alias] is located

in my state. He and the demons awoke from the

nightmare of Hell at some point in the last 2000

years. It's not a metaphysical destination, as all

spirits occupy equal ground. Hell is a construct of

the imagination of which they felt deserving as a

result of their faith that Christ was the son of God.

Notice that "son" is in lower case: no accident.

hehe!

My life, despite all of the physical and emotional

hardships, has taken such a dramatic turn in a

positive direction I can hardly believe it. People

are friendly toward me who were not in the past, my

friendships are growing in intimacy, strangers are

saying "Hello" on the street in this city where a

greeting is implied as a form of insanity, and they're

out walking of all things. I so seldom witnessed

anyone walking prior to these recent revelations. The

flow of energy in the world is changing, but tragedy

will continue. It must, for balance.

Worship of Christ or any human, and I cannot stress

this enough, should be the furthest thing from

anyone's mind. I became comfortable with the concept

of reincarnation many years ago. So if you're curious

at all as to whether or not I feel overwhelmed by any

of this? While I have no conscious memory, you could

say that I feel it. Think of it this way: it's not a

shock to know that you were once you in a former life.

I honestly don't know whether I will receive responses

/ questions from you or not. An offer of this sort

could either be seen as the proverbial holy grail of

E-mail messages for a paranormal investigative team,

or your impending financial ruin. It's not as if the

American Cancer Society wishes for a universal cure

anytime soon. Happiness is free, and summoning

investigators and exorcists is not only a barrier to

happiness but a strengthening of the forces that

occupy people and dwellings on the foundation of fear

and unhappiness.

The ball is now in your court, and I will not be in

contact again unless I hear from you.

Have a splendid day,

Brian

[Bogeyman]

Could you emphasise your main points...The post is a rambling concoction so it's hard to grasp exactly the points you're trying to make.......as to the general content....everyone is entitled to an opinion !

Maybe there are previous posts / threads that i'm not familiar with...if so maybe you could synopsise for me and my like

[FrankBlunt]

Hello, Bogeyman,

How are you? I've received many negative reactions in regard to suggesting that members/readers view my former posts, but "The Things We Can Learn In One Day" thread may be enlightening.

First, I'll comment on the essential nature of those we refer to as demons, and then we can carry the conversation forward from there on any points requiring clarification.

When a person develops depression, he basically abandons his body at the used car lot for any random bargain hunter to purchase. He's saying, "I don't want to live anymore." That's entirely his fault, and happiness was always there if he was willing to actively search for it again and again. I've made it clear from my years of suffering and deep depression that most anyone can rise up from the emotional sludge of despair in favor of the power of humility.

Let me ask you a question, in line with the used car lot analogy. When a corpse lies on the canyon floor, rotting away, are the birds causing ill to the world for feeding upon it?

This is the point I was making about demons being absolutely necessary. They are not the problem in any way, shape, or form. They are part of the solution, and you can use their methods of creating suffering during an attack to rise above your fears and insecurities. You're probably beginning to see where the teacher facet of their nature comes in to play. They are your friends in an odd sort of way, and they cannot cause damage to your soul in a physical sense. Emotions are directly tied to the soul, and that kind of pain can last, but to be so vain as to think that that which attacks one of so many human bodies in your existence is ultimately evil is ignorant to say the least.

Some never recover, because they get stuck in the 'Messiah' complex, waiting for that one person, or his Earthly representatives, to swoop in and save the day like comic book avengers. Look at the tragic events in human history on a global and individual scale. God is not protecting any human bodies, anywhere. When someone escapes a horrific accident by a nose, that's the soul's intuition, not divine intervention.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

God Bless,

Brian

[Carrie Anne]

Hello, Bogeyman,

How are you? I've received many negative reactions in regard to suggesting that members/readers view my former posts, but "The Things We Can Learn In One Day" thread may be enlightening.

First, I'll comment on the essential nature of those we refer to as demons, and then we can carry the conversation forward from there on any points requiring clarification.

When a person develops depression, he basically abandons his body at the used car lot for any random bargain hunter to purchase. He's saying, "I don't want to live anymore." That's entirely his fault, and happiness was always there if he was willing to actively search for it again and again. I've made it clear from my years of suffering and deep depression that most anyone can rise up from the emotional sludge of despair in favor of the power of humility.

Let me ask you a question, in line with the used car lot analogy. When a corpse lies on the canyon floor, rotting away, are the birds causing ill to the world for feeding upon it?

This is the point I was making about demons being absolutely necessary. They are not the problem in any way, shape, or form. They are part of the solution, and you can use their methods of creating suffering during an attack to rise above your fears and insecurities. You're probably beginning to see where the teacher facet of their nature comes in to play. They are your friends in an odd sort of way, and they cannot cause damage to your soul in a physical sense. Emotions are directly tied to the soul, and that kind of pain can last, but to be so vain as to think that that which attacks one of so many human bodies in your existence is ultimately evil is ignorant to say the least.

Some never recover, because they get stuck in the 'Messiah' complex, waiting for that one person, or his Earthly representatives, to swoop in and save the day like comic book avengers. Look at the tragic events in human history on a global and individual scale. God is not protecting any human bodies, anywhere. When someone escapes a horrific accident by a nose, that's the soul's intuition, not divine intervention.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

God Bless,

Brian

I do indeed have a question...you state a lot of your opinion here as though it were fact. Can you tell me how you know these things? Just to take one thing you said for an example, how do you know without a doubt that when someone survives an accident "by a nose" as you said, that it is intuition and not divine intervention?

I hope you won't think I'm knocking your beliefs, because I assure you, I'm not in any way. I am merely curious why you seem so very positive about your opinion.

Edited January 5, 2006 by Carrie Anne

[FrankBlunt]

Carrie Anne,

Please do not feel ashamed to disagree. That's why we're here, to clear the air. I'm gratified that the respect has evolved in this manner.

In one of my recent responses to Boltwave in the "Spirit Possessions" thread, I touched on a few human tragedies in the 20th century. I'll ask you a series of hypothetical questions without answering them:

Would you want to keep faith in a God Who prevents facial scars and a twisted knee in your minor car accident yet allows innocent Japanese citizens to be vaporized by nuclear weaponry?

Did God find it novel to let Hitler and Stalin survive to exterminate millions while simultaneously incapacitating newborn babies with leukemia?

Were those children in the nursery of the Edward R. Murrah building in Oklahoma City blameworthy for failing to say their prayers at night?

Some things simply can't be proven, but believing that God stops that little fender bender would also imply that He allowed 9/11 to occur. I can't think of anything more depression provoking. Doesn't it seem much more pleasant to deal with vanity issues and accept that He's not an intrusive aspect of this plane? Remember that love has often been defined as 'letting go', and that amounts to freedom. You don't possess the ones you love, and, in my belief, neither does God. We all learn from stereotypical evil.

If you're led to believe that God is creating tragedy in your life and that of others, this is always going to result in emotional pain...emotional pain that leads to depression. This places you at risk to the forces that are widely believed to only be dealt with by the ones who wish nothing more than to possess the contents of your wallet.

[NME_locus]

Could you emphasise your main points...The post is a rambling concoction so it's hard to grasp exactly the points you're trying to make.......as to the general content....everyone is entitled to an opinion !

Maybe there are previous posts / threads that i'm not familiar with...if so maybe you could synopsise for me and my like

Exactly... it's alll jibber jabber. Why do you waste time telling us this? What for, are there agendas.

All that you state are opinions of things that you are incorrect about.

Have a nice day.

Edited January 5, 2006 by NME_locus

[FrankBlunt]

NME_locus,

It's your right to view my post as jibber jabber, but if you read my previous posts you'll find more meaning in the most recent one.

Anyone who is finding this thread, having not digested my previous testimony, is essentially reading of the Overlook Hotel explosion in "The Shining" and feeling nothing because they never bothered to develop an attachment to the characters, the site, and the pain present. I certainly don't compare this to an explosion of any sort, quite the opposite, but the analogy holds true in respect to storytelling.

Keep in mind that this was a sincere, and long overdue, public apology for events that you and others may never fully appreciate. I had no choice but to reveal the sins of the past for a man who was said to be sinless.

[EDW74]

Brian,

Why all the sarcasm when you name your threads? You seem like an enlightened person who tries to make peace. What's up?

[Carrie Anne]

Carrie Anne,

Please do not feel ashamed to disagree. That's why we're here, to clear the air. I'm gratified that the respect has evolved in this manner.

In one of my recent responses to Boltwave in the "Spirit Possessions" thread, I touched on a few human tragedies in the 20th century. I'll ask you a series of hypothetical questions without answering them:

Would you want to keep faith in a God Who prevents facial scars and a twisted knee in your minor car accident yet allows innocent Japanese citizens to be vaporized by nuclear weaponry?

Did God find it novel to let Hitler and Stalin survive to exterminate millions while simultaneously incapacitating newborn babies with leukemia?

Were those children in the nursery of the Edward R. Murrah building in Oklahoma City blameworthy for failing to say their prayers at night?

Some things simply can't be proven, but believing that God stops that little fender bender would also imply that He allowed 9/11 to occur. I can't think of anything more depression provoking. Doesn't it seem much more pleasant to deal with vanity issues and accept that He's not an intrusive aspect of this plane? Remember that love has often been defined as 'letting go', and that amounts to freedom. You don't possess the ones you love, and, in my belief, neither does God. We all learn from stereotypical evil.

If you're led to believe that God is creating tragedy in your life and that of others, this is always going to result in emotional pain...emotional pain that leads to depression. This places you at risk to the forces that are widely believed to only be dealt with by the ones who wish nothing more than to possess the contents of your wallet.

Do you think it is possible that those things happened for a reason? This is just a thought I have had, because I have thought a lot about this, especially the tragedy that occured in Germany...maybe there is a reason they happened. I am not by any means saying God caused these things to happen, but maybe they were inevitable in order for other things to happen in the way that they are intended. I see your point clearly, but from my own point of view, I cannot say with a clear conscience that God does not exist, and doesn't have some influence in our lives, no matter how small. I guess no one will know for sure until our time is up.

In response to your comment about those after our money, I agree. I do believe there are people on this earth, sad as it may sound, that claim to be God fearing men and women (priests, nuns, pastors, evangalists, etc), who abuse their influences and powers simply to stuff their wallets, and their sins make it very hard for the rest of the people at times to believe in God. Maybe it is in fact fear that keeps me believing in God, or possibly even the inability for my mind to comprehend that maybe we are here by accident, maybe there is no God, and maybe once we die, that is the end of us forever. I can't say for sure.

Thanks for clarifying. I did miss the other posts about this topic, so I was in the dark a bit.

[FrankBlunt]

Brian,

Why all the sarcasm when you name your threads? You seem like an enlightened person who tries to make peace. What's up?

Hi, EDW74,

I have the deepest respect for you, as a veteran, teacher, and one with the courage to step forth on these controversial issues. I do see your point, and as usual, I'll illustrate in my usual style.

Imagine if I were to come forth and exclaim phrases the likes of: "Thou shalt love thy fellow demons as brothers and sisters. They art thee professors of thine world."

It's perfectly true, but people would sputter, kick over the tiny soap box upon which I stood, pelt me with cabbages, and wander off shaking heads if I presented myself without a bit of spark and laughter. It's not my goal to perpetuate reverence toward any prophets , but I do apologize for the harshness. Unlike most who have made similar claims in the past, I'm not forming cults, offering lethal cocktails of alcohol/barbituates, guaranteeing a seat in the coach section on passing comets, or asking for popularity. The "I'm no hero" photo op garbage isn't the case either. If those people really didn't want themselves viewed as heroes, they'd have never agreed to the cameras in the first place.

I've shared these experiences with close friends, because they're integral to who I've become as an individual. Though for anyone who has read my response to "Flood Light" on his "Life of a Preacher" post in the Self Help website would understand my unwillingness for public exposure. If, for no other reason, the harshness of my tone at times should drive the point home that no one, NO ONE, is perfect.

Take care, EDW,

Brian

[EDW74]

Hi, EDW74,

I have the deepest respect for you, as a veteran, teacher, and one with the courage to step forth on these controversial issues. I do see your point, and as usual, I'll illustrate in my usual style.

Imagine if I were to come forth and exclaim phrases the likes of: "Thou shalt love thy fellow demons as brothers and sisters. They art thee professors of thine world."

It's perfectly true, but people would sputter, kick over the tiny soap box upon which I stood, pelt me with cabbages, and wander off shaking heads if I presented myself without a bit of spark and laughter. It's not my goal to perpetuate reverence toward any prophets , but I do apologize for the harshness. Unlike most who have made similar claims in the past, I'm not forming cults, offering lethal cocktails of alcohol/barbituates, guaranteeing a seat in the coach section on passing comets, or asking for popularity. The "I'm no hero" photo op garbage isn't the case either. If those people really didn't want themselves viewed as heroes, they'd have never agreed to the cameras in the first place.

I've shared these experiences with close friends, because they're integral to who I've become as an individual. Though for anyone who has read my response to "Flood Light" on his "Life of a Preacher" post in the Self Help website would understand my unwillingness for public exposure. If, for no other reason, the harshness of my tone at times should drive the point home that no one, NO ONE, is perfect.

Take care, EDW,

Brian

First I thank you for the respect, though I've no idea of what I've done to deserve it?

I can understand your point and concede to it, it makes sense.

It is my adamant belief that there was one perfect person.......................................................................................................................................and we crucified him.

Edited January 5, 2006 by EDW74

[FrankBlunt]

Carrie Anne,

You're quite welcome. We all have issues on the true nature of God. That's what faith is all about. We can blindly accept that He's there and be thankful for what's been created, or choose to deny His existence and worry over matters of science.

I made a comment to a friend in regard to Satanism yesterday. What many young people think is an expression of Satanism is, from my perspective, an insult to the suffering that Satan and demons have endured. My Ouija board analogy about Osama Bin Laden expresses this point rather well in the "Filming a Documentary" thread. There's tragedy in the world whether we like it or not, but to summon those one considers evil, thinking that their state of suffering is somehow "cool" or an interest of teenage rebellion to be taken lightly is not only cruel but unwise on the part of the experimental youth/adult who suffer dire consquences.

The rebellious are to blame for the repurcussions, not Satan nor the demons. Lose respect for yourself, or them, and you're vulnerable. Do you blame the moon for darkening the sky? The sun disappears, and that's at the heart of it, but neither is blameworthy. They're complimentary forces of light and darkness.

I live in California. The United States was founded upon dissent. As a conservative, I respect that with all my heart, as I'm sure many moderates and liberals do, too. Satan and the demons dissented against God, according to the scripture. My experience at this point leads me to believe that this is one of the factual portions. Dissent is a sign of intelligence and individualism, not evil. A wise man knows this.

[Carrie Anne]

The rebellious are to blame for the repurcussions, not Satan nor the demons. Lose respect for yourself, or them, and you're vulnerable. Do you blame the moon for darkening the sky? The sun disappears, and that's at the heart of it, but neither is blameworthy. They're complimentary forces of light and darkness.

For the most part, I do agree with your first statement listed here. I'm not so quick to jump on the bandwagon for "the devil made me do it" theories. I am not saying that Satan or Demons can NEVER be a bad influence, just that people are quick to blame anything other than themselves when they do horrible things. Hitler is a pretty good example. There are many that believe that because he was dabbling in the occult, this caused him to exterminate millions of innocent people. However, I just think he was a twisted individual that truely believed in his warped mind that these people he murdered, or had murdered, were evil in some way, and harmful to the german race.

So is it safe to assume that you believe in God and Satan, but choose Satan's side because of his dissent, and therefore because you think he showed intellegence in this? I can't say I have ever heard it put that way. Most of those I have encountered that claimed to follow satan, did so because it was "cool" like those you described.

[FrankBlunt]

So is it safe to assume that you believe in God and Satan, but choose Satan's side because of his dissent, and therefore because you think he showed intellegence in this?

Hi, Carrie Anne,

Please don't assume that I'm taking sides. The point I was making was that dissent is respectable, and that both forces are complimentary. If all we had was good in the world, and no evil, then good wouldn't feel that good. This is why I dislike the absoluteness of these terms. One of the first chapters/poems in the book Tao Teh Ching (Dow Day King) by Lao Tzu speaks of how everyone finding beauty beautiful would be, in itself, ugliness.

Don't get me wrong, it's not my goal to pick on one organized religion but every last one of them. Christianity simply happens to be the one with which I'm most knowledgable next to Taoism. People refer to these established creeds as their personal beliefs. They're not personal, they're borrowed from mysterious people from our past with unknown intentions. And that's faith in men, not faith in God: a point made in a separate thread.

Here is how I've come to view demons, and while I can't claim that it is their philosophy or that the scripture holds true, I sure believe it's more flattering than the light in which they've been painted over the millennia. Demons were once angels as the scripture tells us, so is it the slightest bit reasonable to believe that they ultimately hate their Creator for having been condemned? As I understand it, and as I mentioned above in such rosy language, their trouble was with Christ, not God.

Below is how I interpret the demons' beneficial behavior that has gone unexplained and feared for such a long period of time. They may be closer to God than some of you think, or even closer to God than you:

They love God so much, and His creation, that the idea of anyone, who has not even begun to suffer to their extent, not finding some measure of joy on Earth inspires them to assist by unconventional but wholly respectable means to reverse the effects or kill the person trying. Depression hurts everyone, and consider the effects that it has on families, communities, and the world with all these films that exaggerate its nature. If Emily Rose had been conveniently hit by a cement truck before her possession ordeal began, that may have produced greater joy in the short term for no one having learned of such an event, but we need those extreme examples to balance out the pain and joy of life, not to mention keep everyone as joyful as is humanly possible. I honestly don't know how extreme that particular case was. Severity is in the presence of the exorcist. Some of you may see the connection in my syntax to the beauty/eye of the beholder proverb.

Perhaps they're trying to tell us, "Life isn't as bad as you think. Get over yourself and cheer up!"

That's being bluntly honest and straight from the heart, so please don't look for anything comical in that quote. I know I have a history, but drama and comedy combined make for a better teacher when one isn't sure what to believe. It causes the readers to question everything they see. Puzzles are a wonderful way to generate joy.

Read my comments in the following thread for an explanation of just how commonplace possession is. I've included links to this post previously and I've yet to initiate any disputes, credible or otherwise.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...pic=58006&st=15

[Carrie Anne]

Hi, Carrie Anne,

Please don't assume that I'm taking sides. The point I was making was that dissent is respectable, and that both forces are complimentary. If all we had was good in the world, and no evil, then good wouldn't feel that good. This is why I dislike the absoluteness of these terms. One of the first chapters/poems in the book Tao Teh Ching (Dow Day King) by Lao Tzu speaks of how everyone finding beauty beautiful would be, in itself, ugliness.

Don't get me wrong, it's not my goal to pick on one organized religion but every last one of them. Christianity simply happens to be the one with which I'm most knowledgable next to Taoism. People refer to these established creeds as their personal beliefs. They're not personal, they're borrowed from mysterious people from our past with unknown intentions. And that's faith in men, not faith in God: a point made in a separate thread.

Here is how I've come to view demons, and while I can't claim that it is their philosophy or that the scripture holds true, I sure believe it's more flattering than the light in which they've been painted over the millennia. Demons were once angels as the scripture tells us, so is it the slightest bit reasonable to believe that they ultimately hate their Creator for having been condemned? As I understand it, and as I mentioned above in such rosy language, their trouble was with Christ, not God.

Below is how I interpret the demons' beneficial behavior that has gone unexplained and feared for such a long period of time. They may be closer to God than some of you think, or even closer to God than you:

They love God so much, and His creation, that the idea of anyone, who has not even begun to suffer to their extent, not finding some measure of joy on Earth inspires them to assist by unconventional but wholly respectable means to reverse the effects or kill the person trying. Depression hurts everyone, and consider the effects that it has on families, communities, and the world with all these films that exaggerate its nature. If Emily Rose had been conveniently hit by a cement truck before her possession ordeal began, that may have produced greater joy in the short term for no one having learned of such an event, but we need those extreme examples to balance out the pain and joy of life, not to mention keep everyone as joyful as is humanly possible. I honestly don't know how extreme that particular case was. Severity is in the presence of the exorcist. Some of you may see the connection in my syntax to the beauty/eye of the beholder proverb.

Perhaps they're trying to tell us, "Life isn't as bad as you think. Get over yourself and cheer up!"

That's being bluntly honest and straight from the heart, so please don't look for anything comical in that quote. I know I have a history, but drama and comedy combined make for a better teacher when one isn't sure what to believe. It causes the readers to question everything they see. Puzzles are a wonderful way to generate joy.

Read my comments in the following thread for an explanation of just how commonplace possession is. I've included links to this post previously and I've yet to initiate any disputes, credible or otherwise.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...pic=58006&st=15

It just makes me wonder, if they have so much hatred for us, as they are supposed to have, why go to all the trouble? Out of respect for God, who they are supposed to be against, and questioning?

I do totally agree with you about the balancing, I actually made that very same point in a different thread. Without bad, there could never be good, everything would simply be indifferent until we grew weary of it. JMT of course

[FrankBlunt]

It just makes me wonder, if they have so much hatred for us, as they are supposed to have, why go to all the trouble?

Hello again, Carrie Anne,

This is one of the most productive talks I've had with one who may not have shared the bevy of paranormal experiences. Good question, because it's not as if they're attacking and/or educating indiscriminately. Why fear sharks if you're not swimming in the ocean of depression? And sharks aren't indiscriminate, either, so I feel that the analogy is rather fitting in regard to opening minds of those historically feared. Irrationally, I might add. Honestly, after all this time, it's pretty clear that the ones being possessed have a lot of trouble maintaining happiness. Was Emily Rose a member of the local glee club or a girl scout at the grocery store peddling cookies with giggly cohorts? I tend not to think so.

Out of respect for God, who they are supposed to be against, and questioning?

My belief, and someone may correct me on this one day, is that they love God as much as any other soul. Christ, in his opinion and that of others that he was the only son of God, and blindness to the advantages of balance, convinced the demons that they deserved punishment for being different. We can add discrimination and closed-mindedness to the list. As much as I hate to belabor this, Christ wan't perfect. Many of us know the enlightening benefit, myself as an example, that haunting and possession experiences can have on one's outlook and future state of happiness. So, the goal of condemning those for all eternity who help minds and souls, albeit in mysterious fashions, is far from perfect.

People have been spending so many centuries obsessing over the existence and arrival of Christ and the Anti-Christ that no one's ever opened his mind long enough to consider the potential for Neutral-Christ, no Christ, or Christ and Satan in a distant partnership for the sake of all mankind's welfare.

I think this is the sort of discussion that Satan would like to see. I don't expect him to necessarily provide an opinion on this, as we may not be meant to know his deepest philosophies. He agreed with me on the matter of understanding, and opening minds to new possibilities is an initial step in the right direction.

[Fluffybunny]

Let me see if I get this straight...we have one visitor that is visted by the spirits of:

1. Jesus

2. John F. Kenedy

3. Albert Einstein

4. Pat Nixon

(Among others)... And is possessed by the spirits of 4 different family members who take over her body when she posts here and do not allow her to use punctuation...

On top of that we have someone who is in contact with Satan himself and knows where he lives.

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This forum gets more and more interesting all of the time. We are getting connections to a whole host of celebrities...

[aquatus1]

FrankBlunt...what sort of response where you expecting from that letter?

You didn't ask anything. You didn't request any information. All you did was make some fairly standard claims (by paranormal standards). What would any paranormal group be expected to respond to that?

"Ah...okay."

[Paranormalcy]

Agreed. If you had sent that to me - well, I'd probably think the same thing I think right now reading this on a forum...

Re FluffyBunny - Don't forget the incredible storehouse of occult knowledge that you're censoring and keeping all to yourself, Bunny - you have to add that in there too, to equitably present just how staggeringly profound the last couple of days have been!

I would remind some people who read the other thread, however, that "Satan" posted afterward, indicating his claim was "all in fun", as was the other post by the other "demon" in that thread... unless Frank is now referring to an entirely new and different person which he believes to be Satan, which, if that is the case, I apologize for my misunderstanding.

I personally don't believe in any demonic willful entity, including Satan, so I won't make any more replies on the subject, except to say I wish Frank luck and hope this thread is informative and helpful.

Edited January 5, 2006 by jpatt

[Fluffybunny]

Re FluffyBunny - Don't forget the incredible storehouse of occult knowledge that you're censoring and keeping all to yourself, Bunny - you have to add that in there too, to equitably present just how staggeringly profound the last couple of days have been!

Yes you are correct on that one. I am hording the answers to the secrets of life...I am selfish that way.

I just wish I remember where I put all the answers...

[FrankBlunt]

FrankBlunt...what sort of response where you expecting from that letter?

Aquatus1,

Perhaps you didn't notice my reference to the initial letter of which they were not meant to be frightened. In that correspondence, I provided them with the link to this website and some suggested writings from my recent past.

Please visit the opening paragraph of the "Animals and the Supernatural" thread for my thoughts on paranormal investigations and questions on the matter of quality control.

It was more so my goal to demonstrate that the paranormal investigators' presence is counterproductive to the acceptance of the phenomena, not to guarantee a response. I've sent some of the most professionally worded letters without the slightest hint of sarcasm or jokery to reputable physicians and psychic investigators. To prove any of these phenomena or discredit their work is not consistent with their desire for continued cash flow. Hence, they've never responded.

Question: is it better to work toward enlightening all of our souls or exploit the public's fears with misinformation for financial gain? I'll take the former, thank you.

Edited January 5, 2006 by FrankBlunt

[Nadal]

More christian Dogma Conspiracy...I don't even have to read it. I just see the word Christ and 'God bless' and BAM! Crap in a nutshell.

[FrankBlunt]

I would remind some people who read the other thread, however, that "Satan" posted afterward, indicating his claim was "all in fun", as was the other post by the other "demon" in that thread

jpatt,

You're welcome to believe what you like, but the fact remains that the spirits who had been visiting every night for six years have now ceased their activity, without any alteration in my mental status nor my expectation of their departure.

My ideas on the partnership were sheer speculation, but the benefits that stem from balancing of good and evil and the victimization of haunting and possession are undeniable.

Would you mind refuting my logic on organized religion, and its harmful affects upon individual thought and freedom? Or the scenarios in the "Ghost and Puberty" thread? Or why Christ would not have recognized the benefit of balance?

I'm not going to decide or comment one way or the other whether I was being toyed with in the "Demontacular" thread. I keep my mind open to the best of my ability.

[aquatus1]

Perhaps you didn't notice my reference to the initial letter of which they were not meant to be frightened. In that correspondence, I provided them with the link to this website and some suggested writings from my recent past.

I noticed, and gave a close guess as to what you were referring too. Surely you see my point, that these people must get, on a daily basis, several dozens of requests from complete strangers, informing them that all they need to do to solve the mysteries of the paranormal is to visit their websites and bask in their wisdom.

It was more so my goal to demonstrate that the paranormal investigators' presence is counterproductive to the acceptance of the phenomena, not to guarantee a response. I've sent some of the most professionally worded letters without the slightest hint of sarcasm or jokery to reputable physicians and psychic investigators. To prove any of these phenomena or discredit their work is not consistent with their desire for continued cash flow. Hence, they've never responded.

I suspect that they haven't responded due to the subject matter, not the way in which it is worded. The thing of it is that your letters, while indeed polite and lacking sarcasm or jokery, are still not professional. Why is this? It is because you are presenting as fact an idea which is not only unsupported, but subjective in the extreme, to say nothing of somewhat unbelievable.

I would hazard that their lack of response is not due to any fear that their cash flow (how much do you think paranormal investigators make, anyway?) will be endangered, nor that their work will be either endangered or discredited. They do not answer because you do not sound like a professional researcher, but more like a polite evangelist.

Question: is it better to work toward enlightening all of our souls or exploit the public's fears with misinformation for financial gain? I'll take the former, thank you.

Yes, but the former is not necessarily what you are doing. It may be what you think you are doing, but then, that is not the same thing.

Edited January 5, 2006 by aquatus1

[FrankBlunt]

I respect your feedback, Aquatas1. My methods are unorthodox, true, but I think most anyone would be hard-pressed to find counter-logic to dispute my claims regarding the harmfulness of organized religion upon the human spirit.

It's funny to me that my thoughts on the nature of happiness, it's fleeting characteristic that must be constantly replenished, the observations on children's intuition of who represents a threat, etc., in earlier threads, have all been glossed over in favor of what may very well have been a prank played upon me by one with remote viewing abilities. Can I prove to you that remote viewing is a legitimate ability? No, but no fewer than three of my former co-workers were aware of my dream regarding the woman who was on the gambling trip at the time. She won her jackpot during the precise hour of my dream. This was posted earlier, I believe in the "Things We Can Learn In One Day" thread.

Aside from the energy healing that's been proven to dozens, my other abilities are limited and infrequent, and they've not been forced into fruition, as I do not see them as significant in terms of spirituality. I see benefit in them as tools to gather those who have been led to believe that such gifts are imaginary.

Humbling oneself before the Almighty is my definition of spirituality. Is it humble for me to smite organized religion as a whole? Certainly not, but it was a calculated risk in an effort to help others find love for God rather than pain in that which He quite obviously does not wish to control on Earth, and discourage waiting for that one individual who cannot save them from themselves.

I sincerely hope that this website manages to keep its current sponsors and gain additional support. What has potential as a learning tool is being severely abused by some, and people with amazing gifts are desperately seeking friendship and understanding in a place that does not always welcome them when they come to share that which is supposed to be shared. Those with paranormal gifts have had cruel labels applied to them by psychiatrists and organized religion for many, many years, so you'll have to excuse many of us when we discover leaky pipes in the sewer of misinformation.

Do some find it funny that I was an incest victim, denied privacy until my mid to late teens, unconsciously repressed the memories for my own protection until the age of 27, or that I learned of genetic blindness that affected my career, driving ability, and child rearing decision twelve years ago? Maybe so. But I feel sorry for anyone who does, and I by no means pity myself.

Best of luck to everyone in your future endeavors,

Brian