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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:51 PM

More than 800 children visit their doctor every day due to the effects of being exposed to second-hand smoke, according to research published by the Royal College of Physicians.

The figures have been highlighted as the Government launches a campaign to increase awareness of the hidden dangers of smoking in homes and cars. Millions of children in the UK are exposed to second-hand smoke daily, which puts them at increased risk of lung disease, meningitis and cot death.

http://news.uk.msn.c...angers-revealed

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:02 PM

when will they ever leave smokers alone
they keep stricting smokers rights .. and that ain't right

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:08 PM

More than 800 children visit their doctor every day

?really?

When was the last time you saw in the papers or news a child has been diagnosed with second hand smoke inhalation when the parent took them to the doctors?
what about the car fumes we all inhale?
How about all the cr%p they put in the foods today?
What about all the fast foods these kids eat?

Obviously the EU are coming out with another "anti smoking " rule and this is the way to warn us without spilling the beans too early.
We are all aware of the dangers of second hand smoke FCOL that is why there is no smoking in any public places anymore. So this is not new, or when they first reported it they meant children were not included? jeeeeze!!!!

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 04 June 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

More than 800 children visit their doctor every day

?really?

When was the last time you saw in the papers or news a child has been diagnosed with second hand smoke inhalation when the parent took them to the doctors?
what about the car fumes we all inhale?
How about all the cr%p they put in the foods today?
What about all the fast foods these kids eat?

Obviously the EU are coming out with another "anti smoking " rule and this is the way to warn us without spilling the beans too early.
We are all aware of the dangers of second hand smoke FCOL that is why there is no smoking in any public places anymore. So this is not new, or when they first reported it they meant children were not included? jeeeeze!!!!
seriously !
with all the cars pumping smoke in the air and with all factories
and cancer caused by " food " non  the less they keep getting on back of smokers
it's like modern witchhunt .. only smokers instead of witches
next thing you know it was smokers who pinched a hole in the O-zone

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:40 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 04 June 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:


next thing you know it was smokers who pinched a hole in the O-zone
haha, do not them give them any more ridiculous ideas, they will try anything!

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Dr phil: Seven Steps to Breaking Your Addiction

2) Think rational thoughts instead of denial.
You understand at a conscious level, at an intellectual level that your addiction is unhealthy, yet you continue and this perplexes you. Dr. Phil points out, "If you're in denial about it, if you're minimizing it, if you're trivializing it, if you're conning yourself about it, then you'll never get where you need to be." If you can't get through the day without a shot of vodka, you may be medicating yourself for anxiety, depression or pain. You may need to count on others to help you think rationally.


Obviously you people need to re-read this step multiple times because the way you're outing your junky frustrations here are so textbook cliché.
Get over yourself. Even Dr Phil, of all people, is on to you.

If you wanna be an idiot about it and continue, fine. But don't pretend everyone has to just smoke along with you (second hand) because you can't think straight. How narcissistic is that.

Edited by Render, 10 June 2013 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:45 AM

View PostRender, on 10 June 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Dr phil: Seven Steps to Breaking Your Addiction

2) Think rational thoughts instead of denial.
You understand at a conscious level, at an intellectual level that your addiction is unhealthy, yet you continue and this perplexes you. Dr. Phil points out, "If you're in denial about it, if you're minimizing it, if you're trivializing it, if you're conning yourself about it, then you'll never get where you need to be." If you can't get through the day without a shot of vodka, you may be medicating yourself for anxiety, depression or pain. You may need to count on others to help you think rationally.


Obviously you people need to re-read this step multiple times because the way you're outing your junky frustrations here are so textbook cliché.
Get over yourself. Even Dr Phil, of all people, is on to you.

If you wanna be an idiot about it and continue, fine. But don't pretend everyone has to just smoke along with you (second hand) because you can't think straight. How narcissistic is that.

So the whole 'be like us, the non-smokers because we are better people' isn't narcissistic in the least right? Or condescending, rude or inconsiderate either?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 10 June 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:

So the whole 'be like us, the non-smokers because we are better people' isn't narcissistic in the least right? Or condescending, rude or inconsiderate either?

Protip #332 Before you leave the house make sure you don't leave the irony on.

That is what most smokers reduce every rational argument against smoking to. Like it's this battle of who is the best.

It's about smokers having to respect non smokers, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN (as the article highlights). Instead of just saying "you have to respect me mimimiimimii" while blowing smoke in a child's face. Cmon, get over yourself.
It's not because smokers wanna smoke they have drag everyone else's health through the mud. As i said before,

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If you wanna be an idiot about it and continue, fine. But don't pretend everyone has to just smoke along with you (second hand) because you can't think straight. How narcissistic is that.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostRender, on 10 June 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

That is what most smokers reduce every rational argument against smoking to. Like it's this battle of who is the best.

It's about smokers having to respect non smokers, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN (as the article highlights). Instead of just saying "you have to respect me mimimiimimii" while blowing smoke in a child's face. Cmon, get over yourself.
It's not because smokers wanna smoke they have drag everyone else's health through the mud. As i said before,

Seriously? How often do you think smokers go around blowing smoke into children's faces? This preposterous exaggeration isn't helping your argument.

And respect? Smokers no longer smoke on buses or planes. They don't smoke in restaurants or bars. They go outside and smoke at least 10 feet from any door or window. They pay exorbitant taxes on a product that they are addicted to. So far the only respect has been given by the smokers, none has been received.

Edited by Slave2Fate, 10 June 2013 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:08 PM

Another thing, considering the amount of money generated as revenue for state and federal governments on tobacco taxes it pretty much guarantees that tobacco isn't very likely to be outlawed or banned any time soon. Non-smokers kinda shot themselves in the foot (or would that be lung?) with that nonsense. Whoops, more irony!

*Speaking of the US at least, I'm not sure what the tobacco taxation is in the UK.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 10 June 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

Seriously? How often do you think smokers go around blowing smoke into children's faces? This preposterous exaggeration isn't helping your argument.

And respect? Smokers no longer smoke on buses or planes. They don't smoke in restaurants or bars. They go outside and smoke at least 10 feet from any door or window. They pay exorbitant taxes on a product that they are addicted to. So far the only respect has been given by the smokers, none has been received.

Great, and apparantly more still has to be done.

How do you think all these smoke related health problems come about in children and others, but again the article highlights children? Do you think it just magically materialises in their bodies?
So yes, more respect is needed. Not your evasive addiction denial talk.

What do you want? You want me to applaud smokers for causing severe health issues in children? Because they don't smoke in restaurants anymore?

You act like smokers deserve a medal for being restrained from bothering other people. Get real. It was the obvious thing to do , but because the addiction is so strong you tell yourselves all sort of crap to legitimise this behaviour like you are entitled to let other people suffer from second hand smoke. Congrats, you're dellusional and the ideal customer for tobacco. Slave2fate? More like Slave2BigBusiness


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:28 PM

View PostRender, on 10 June 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Great, and apparantly more still has to be done.

How do you think all these smoke related health problems come about in children and others, but again the article highlights children? Do you think it just magically materialises in their bodies?
So yes, more respect is needed. Not your evasive addiction denial talk.

What do you want? You want me to applaud smokers for causing severe health issues in children? Because they don't smoke in restaurants anymore?

You act like smokers deserve a medal for being restrained from bothering other people. Get real. It was the obvious thing to do , but because the addiction is so strong you tell yourselves all sort of crap to legitimise this behaviour like you are entitled to let other people suffer from second hand smoke. Congrats, you're dellusional and the ideal customer for tobacco. Slave2fate? More like Slave2BigBusiness

Sure, delusional. Whatever hate mongering and dehumanizing propaganda helps you sleep at night. Nice Ad Hom by the way, it really sells your point, as long as your point was an unhinged tirade.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:34 PM

you'll have to forgive render S2F, he's a bit of a gobs**te who thinks he knows everything, and wouldn't understand 'civil' if it held open a door for him

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:42 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 10 June 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:


*Speaking of the US at least, I'm not sure what the tobacco taxation is in the UK.
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it's that bad S2F, that the tobacco-smuggling industry in britain is bigger than drug-smuggling.
a 20-pack will cost you £9, which in your money is around $15.
and a good 2/3rds of it is tax.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:56 PM

View Postshrooma, on 11 June 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

you'll have to forgive render S2F, he's a bit of a gobs**te who thinks he knows everything, and wouldn't understand 'civil' if it held open a door for him

Yes, im a horrible person. Actually putting it in words that smoking destroys the health of children. A true terrible person.
But you, oh you're a true gentleman. Just look at what you write here. Clap clap.

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Edited by Render, 13 June 2013 - 08:57 PM.





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