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[Karlis]

Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth And There Were ET Cadavers: Ex-CIA Agent Says

It was 65 years ago today that the Roswell Daily Record blasted an infamous headline claiming local military officials had captured a flying saucer on a nearby ranch. And now, a former CIA agent says it really happened.

"It was not a damn weather balloon -- it was what it was billed when people first reported it," said Chase Brandon, a 35-year CIA veteran. "It was a craft that clearly did not come from this planet, it crashed and I don't doubt for a second that the use of the word 'remains' and 'cadavers' was exactly what people were talking about."
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[Jeffertonturner]

And the "yes its was! - no it wasn't!" arguement continues. How many Roswell threads do you think there are?

[Jacques Terreur]

quote from the article:
"Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story about the history of Earth, contact with extraterrestrials
and imagined cataclysmic events on our planet."


i sense a cash-in attempt to an old myth that probably never will be solved.....

[and then]

The only thing that causes me to wonder about whether they were real or not is the extraordinary advantage the US has had with flight and weapons technology over the period from the 50's onward.  Reverse engineering anyone?

[Coffey]

Jacques Terreur, on 09 July 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

quote from the article:
"Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story about the history of Earth, contact with extraterrestrials
and imagined cataclysmic events on our planet."


i sense a cash-in attempt to an old myth that probably never will be solved.....

See this is exactly what annoys the hell out of me.

No one ever just goes... ET are real the goverment are keeping it hidden, here's some pictures I managed to take. I'm going public to keep me safe...


It's ET are real the Goverment are keeping it hidden.... BUY MY BOOK NOW to read more.

Automatically when there is a book involved I shut off.

Again if you had so much info that it needs to be in a book formatt, then make it a pdf or soemthing and give it away for free. Why would the goverment let a book like this be published if it was true? LOL

and then, on 09 July 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

The only thing that causes me to wonder about whether they were real or not is the extraordinary advantage the US has had with flight and weapons technology over the period from the 50's onward.  Reverse engineering anyone?

What did they do 5 years earlier though? WW2, Nazi Scientists invented the "jet" etc, look at the Horten 229, it was the first stealth aircraft. The US has it sitting in one of their hangers. It was tested by Northrop Grumman and passed the radar test. (it's on youtube, very itnresting watch)

Most of the technology advances in the 50's was from the Nazi's or Japanese. It was because both of those had free reign, loads of manpower and supplies etc.

Edited by Coffey, 09 July 2012 - 11:34 AM.

[Myles]

and then, on 09 July 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

The only thing that causes me to wonder about whether they were real or not is the extraordinary advantage the US has had with flight and weapons technology over the period from the 50's onward.  Reverse engineering anyone?

There really aren't any "gaps" if you look closely.

[diablo_04]

I should write a book, i did see something in the trees maybe it was a bird, maybe it was alien....read more in my book for only $56.99 find out the truth now!

WTF wrong with this Ex CIA, FBI people?

[Chooky88]

Looks more like tin foil for a July turkey than a UFO.

[WhyDontYouBeliEveMe]

i believe him .. but i wouldnt buy his book.  they exist and are here.... that is enuogh for me .. ..

[Hawkin]

If it was really Project Mogel it makes me wonder why they didn't just stick the the alien craft story instead of changing it to the weather ballon.

[Hazzard]

Making money off the gullible has never been a problem.

Edited by Hazzard, 09 July 2012 - 01:21 PM.

[TheMacGuffin]

Coffey, on 09 July 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

See this is exactly what annoys the hell out of me.

No one ever just goes... ET are real the goverment are keeping it hidden, here's some pictures I managed to take. I'm going public to keep me safe...


It's ET are real the Goverment are keeping it hidden.... BUY MY BOOK NOW to read more.

I wasn't in the CIA, but Army intelligence, and as I said a few times before, I was also shown pictures and documents that featured a UFO crash and three dead aliens.  It wasn't the Roswell crash, however, but took place sometime in the early-1950s.  

I'm not writing a book, though, and I never will, nor am I interested in getting my 15 minutes of fame.  In fact, I would not be allowed to publish anything in the U.S. without permission, but I don't think it does any harm to refer to UFO cases that have already been revealed to the public, one way or another.  Many of the ones I first heard about years ago, before they were public knowledge, have been disclosed in the years since, but not all of them.

I do feel ambivalent about whether the public even has the right or the need to know all of this information, and how the people would handle the fact that ET civilizations are real, that there are many of them, and that some have been visiting here for a very long time.

In any case, I am not interested in calling a press conference or trying to get a book published about what I know, not even an altered and fictionalized account like this guy did.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 09 July 2012 - 02:00 PM.

[TheMacGuffin]

And yes, I know the old joke about military intelligence being a contradiction in terms.  That's the first thing we learned in spook school.  There's another old one-liner to the effect that military intelligence is to intelligence what military music is to music.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 09 July 2012 - 02:19 PM.

[TheMacGuffin]

Coffey, on 09 July 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

What did they do 5 years earlier though? WW2, Nazi Scientists invented the "jet" etc, look at the Horten 229, it was the first stealth aircraft. The US has it sitting in one of their hangers. It was tested by Northrop Grumman and passed the radar test. (it's on youtube, very itnresting watch)

Most of the technology advances in the 50's was from the Nazi's or Japanese. It was because both of those had free reign, loads of manpower and supplies etc.

I never believed for a minute that they took that great Horten plane and just stuck it in a warehouse somewhere and forget about it, along with the other more exotic German designs or the flying saucer prototypes.

They may have told that to the John Q. Publics, but in reality I'm sure that they kept working on these designs, improving and refining them, just as they did with the German jets and rockets.

In fact, from what I've read, it was all the postwar excitement over UFOs that got the military interested in the Horten planes and flying saucers in general, on the premise that we were going to by God beat the Russians in building these things.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 09 July 2012 - 02:11 PM.

[TheMacGuffin]

WhyDontYouBeliEveMe, on 09 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

i believe him .. but i wouldnt buy his book.  they exist and are here.... that is enuogh for me .. ..

Oh I believe him too, but I'm not going to buy the book.  I've already seen the movies.  LOL