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[34th prototype]

try in the morning when others arent yet awake.,that will surely work.,give it a best shot.

[notyalcmas93]

I fell asleep :/ i asked myself that same question. Which is what led me to believe i may have drempt it.

[notyalcmas93]

34th prototype, on 28 October 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

try in the morning when others arent yet awake.,that will surely work.,give it a best shot.

Yea thats what ill do tonight. I think ill just set my alarm for 4 and try it again. This time ill stay up and read for a bit like seeker says to do.

Edited by notyalcmas93, 28 October 2012 - 06:29 PM.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

notyalcmas93, on 28 October 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Tried again last night before bed with no luck.
I cant figure out if this was a dream or not but i think i woke up, im pretty sure i did cuz i was cold and i threw another blanket on me.. and i dont know what time it was but it was still dark. And i tried to reach vibrations while i was up and i did instantly, the noise was very loud. But they didnt last long because i must have fallen asleep. When i think back on it, it may have been a dream but i really dunno. If i did wake up and decide to try to AP the whole process before i went back to sleep couldnt have been more than 2 minutes. I woke up threw a blanket on me decided to try to AP since i was up then fell asleep. lol

What's your intent/ reason / direction / for projecting ? where / what location are you aiming for ?

I ask because you have written a paragraph anticipating how you may react, how you may scare yourself back to your body etc.. it's a fear installed reaction coming from a part of you which is trying to define the experience before you even  have it. This needs to be eliminated, cut it out,  that is ego talking and is defeated talk.

Say you had a life and death reason for getting out to deal with something, put something straight, see more of something that involved the wellbeing you or a loved one, or prevent something from happening, you would not be sitting there sweating the small stuff. I don't mean to sound blunt, but the intent has to come from that part of you that just puts the task to hand and goes because there is a purpose to it.

Sorry but you have to have a plan, an intent and purpose as to what it is you want to see/experience if you are trying to induce projection this way. Otherwise, leave it to run it's natural course and concentrate on dream recall, so you can learn to tell the difference between maintenance type dreams and astral experience dreaming.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 28 October 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[notyalcmas93]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 28 October 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

What's your intent/ reason / direction / for projecting ? where / what location are you aiming for ?

I ask because you have written a paragraph anticipating how you may react, how you may scare yourself back to your body etc.. it's a fear installed reaction coming from a part of you which is trying to define the experience before you even  have it. This needs to be eliminated, cut it out,  that is ego talking and is defeated talk.

Say you had a life and death reason for getting out to deal with something, put something straight, see more of something that involved the wellbeing you or a loved one, or prevent something from happening, you would not be sitting there sweating the small stuff. I don't mean to sound blunt, but the intent has to come from that part of you that just puts the task to hand and goes because there is a purpose to it.

Sorry but you have to have a plan, an intent and purpose as to what it is you want to see/experience if you are trying to induce projection this way. Otherwise, leave it to run it's natural course and concentrate on dream recall, so you can learn to tell the difference between maintenance type dreams and astral experience dreaming.

I understand that there has to be intent. I also understand that it is ego preventing me. Im working on that. I honestly cant figure out what my intent is. Its just something i feel like i have to accomplish eventually. Like, ive been meditating for the longest time, spending time with nature, ect, ect, ect, i just feel like this is the next step.
May i ask what your intent was? When you first started to project and all?

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

I do a lot of meditation, and projection via that because of my mediumship. So for me it was connected to talking to other beings and guides, and doing readings / energy work. At times i have had to project to deal with entities /energies that were causing me or others issues. The projections in my sleep time are a natural follow on by being put into roles/parts to play out or remember past/alt lifes.  The bulk of my most recent projections have been to do with development / healing issues. But the one constant thing for me is that whenever i project, there is reason and purpose for it and something to see through.

[notyalcmas93]

Wow, thats pretty impressive blu3,
id be happy enough to just meet my guide.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

I don't say it to be impressive, It's hard work and has obvious downsides at times... i know and understand that for anyone undertaking it. So don't get me wrong i have full respect for anyone who commits their time and energy to developing this. I only want to see you and others get the result, because i know it can be done. The whole point is, the astral teaches us the real power we have in each of us as well as a collective. I want everyone to know that our real power is the power of our thoughts, our emotions, and intent. Just for learning and embracing that makes all this worth it, as it is learning to free yourself.

So it's back to putting together a reason a purpose for getting out. All that matters is that it is something that matters to you, that you can  tie your intent into. I would say meeting your guide is a perfect start but i would also say that it can be done via meditation too and to give that version of projection a chance.

Projection =  expanding you consciousness

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 28 October 2012 - 08:54 PM.

[notyalcmas93]

Hmm, is that "mental projection"? I think that was talked about in this forum. Cant remember

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

It's been talked about many times in this thread. Meditation allows you to get into a similar alt state, for which projection can take place. I am projected right now as i write this and conscious in more than 2 places. It's a complete and utter myth that you need to be asleep or sitting there like a drone to project. The point is, you have a subtle body (tier of consciousness) already sitting on the astral dimension which is outside of the 3d physical level. EVERYONE has. It's where dreaming happens full stop.

The point is that in order to project 'consciously' it is a case of shifting awareness to that level and it can be done a in conscious awake multitasking state, by direction of intention, or you can be left to go there as you sleep/recall.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 28 October 2012 - 09:12 PM.

[Seeker79]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 28 October 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

I don't say it to be impressive, It's hard work and has obvious downsides at times... i know and understand that for anyone undertaking it. So don't get me wrong i have full respect for anyone who commits their time and energy to developing this. I only want to see you and others get the result, because i know it can be done. The whole point is, the astral teaches us the real power we have in each of us as well as a collective. I want everyone to know that our real power is the power of our thoughts, our emotions, and intent. Just for learning and embracing that makes all this worth it, as it is learning to free yourself.

So it's back to putting together a reason a purpose for getting out. All that matters is that it is something that matters to you, that you can  tie your intent into. I would say meeting your guide is a perfect start but i would also say that it can be done via meditation too and to give that version of projection a chance.

Projection =  expanding you consciousness

It's true... Once you achieve a greater awareness other awareness issues cannot be ignored. It's one of the reasons I participate. For everyone that is successful, we have another ally in the healing of the earth and our race. Can you imagine what the world will be like if everyone for even just a second felt the connectedness we ( all of us) share. One person at a time I guess.

[notyalcmas93]

Seeker79, on 28 October 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

It's true... Once you achieve a greater awareness other awareness issues cannot be ignored. It's one of the reasons I participate. For everyone that is successful, we have another ally in the healing of the earth and our race. Can you imagine what the world will be like if everyone for even just a second felt the connectedness we ( all of us) share. One person at a time I guess.

It would certainly make the world a better place.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

Seeker79, on 28 October 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

It's true... Once you achieve a greater awareness other awareness issues cannot be ignored. It's one of the reasons I participate. For everyone that is successful, we have another ally in the healing of the earth and our race. Can you imagine what the world will be like if everyone for even just a second felt the connectedness we ( all of us) share. One person at a time I guess.

Right on, once you know it, see the glimpse of what can be, it's almost a responsibility unto self to keep going and showing others how to.

[notyalcmas93]

bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 28 October 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

It's been talked about many times in this thread. Meditation allows you to get into a similar alt state, for which projection can take place. I am projected right now as i write this and conscious in more than 2 places. It's a complete and utter myth that you need to be asleep or sitting there like a drone to project. The point is, you have a subtle body (tier of consciousness) already sitting on the astral dimension which is outside of the 3d physical level. EVERYONE has. It's where dreaming happens full stop.

The point is that in order to project 'consciously' it is a case of shifting awareness to that level and it can be done a in conscious awake multitasking state, by direction of intention, or you can be left to go there as you sleep/recall.

So you have achieved the duel consciencness that seeker has been talking about in a few threads?

Edited by notyalcmas93, 28 October 2012 - 09:37 PM.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

notyalcmas93, on 28 October 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

It would certainly make the world a better place.

Absolutely, coming in at this stage is part of the revolution so to speak, helping consciousness shift up a gear and get there for the collective too. If that's not a goal in service for all/others, i don't know what is

The downside at this point in time is just as seeker said, once you achieve greater awareness, other awareness issues can't be ignored.. that means all the negativity that still transpires and needs transmuted by in my opinion those already there. It's hard work energy wise to always be tired physically but yet so full of higher energy. We should never forget in our thoughts what kind our world we really want to see  us evolve into next. To me that is being the warrior principle that is needed right now.  Anything trying to defend that or take it down is just confused, expressing their nature without any thought for the greater whole.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 28 October 2012 - 09:46 PM.