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#31    ReaperS_ParadoX

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:48 PM

View PostXetan, on 15 October 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

I know how long Cthulu's lifespan is:

'Til the end of the book!
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:13 AM

I tend to agree there is no Cthulu/Godzilla sized monsters living in the deep oceans. I suppose it is possible.

A blue whale is about 100 feet long and 200 tons and is said to be the largest animal ever know to have existed.

The largest dinosaurs are suspected to have topped out at 75 tons.

Cthulu is supposed to be over/around 50 feet tall, and is much wider then a whale, so probably weighs in close to 60-80 tons.

Godzilla for comparison is 300 feet tall and 60,000 tons.

So a Cthulhu sized monster is much more likely then a Godzilla sized one.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:38 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 16 October 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Godzilla for comparison is 300 feet tall and 60,000 tons.

Depends which era the Godzilla is from. He changes sizes depending on the continuity.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:01 AM

View PostXetan, on 16 October 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

Depends which era the Godzilla is from. He changes sizes depending on the continuity.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:13 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 16 October 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Cthulu is supposed to be over/around 50 feet tall, and is much wider then a whale, so probably weighs in close to 60-80 tons.

Godzilla for comparison is 300 feet tall and 60,000 tons.

So a Cthulhu sized monster is much more likely then a Godzilla sized one.

While not to support the belief that Cthulhu or Godzilla exists, I believe the only description of Cthulhu's size is the phrase "a mountain walked or stumbled", which would suggest he is well behind 50 feet tall, and could very well be larger then Godzilla.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:34 AM

I would make the argument that both Cthulu and Godzilla have entered the realms of modern folklore or mythology, and so have variable sizes to be determined by each unique interpreter.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:46 AM

View PostInsanity, on 16 October 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

While not to support the belief that Cthulhu or Godzilla exists, I believe the only description of Cthulhu's size is the phrase "a mountain walked or stumbled", which would suggest he is well behind 50 feet tall, and could very well be larger then Godzilla.
True enough again. But, I believe the various RPG games out there have made various statistics for these guys and some of them have been approved by the estate of Lovecraft, so actual sizes that are approved do exist. I just have not been able to find them online today. One common size that is around the internet, but appears to be unsupported is 50 feet. So I went with that.

I originally had thought Cthulhu much larger also, on a size with Godzilla, which is why I used that for comparison. And then after not finding anything concrete I had to edit to put in 50 feet tall.

In the story, Cthulhu is only temporarily defeated by running the ships propellers into his head, which would suggest that he was HUGE.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:06 AM

If we discover a giant creature in the ocean can we call it Cthulhu whatever? Please Please Please?

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:25 AM

Well, what kind of gargantuan beasts could logically live under the water? Could whales attain that size? Would something that large have to have less stable molecular density (like a jellyfish or squid?)

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:28 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 16 October 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

True enough again. But, I believe the various RPG games out there have made various statistics for these guys and some of them have been approved by the estate of Lovecraft, so actual sizes that are approved do exist. I just have not been able to find them online today. One common size that is around the internet, but appears to be unsupported is 50 feet. So I went with that.

I originally had thought Cthulhu much larger also, on a size with Godzilla, which is why I used that for comparison. And then after not finding anything concrete I had to edit to put in 50 feet tall.

In the story, Cthulhu is only temporarily defeated by running the ships propellers into his head, which would suggest that he was HUGE.

If we are referencing RPGs, which is fine, then I suggest Chaosium in which Cthulhu is given a size of 210, which puts him somewhere around 970 tons in weight, but no height specified.  Then again, his form is not fixed and he modify it as he chooses.  As a cosmic supernatural entity, he has form, but is not made of matter as we know it.

Again, not supporting the existence of either of them.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:37 AM

I was under the impression that cathulu ( not sure how it is spelled) was a fictional being out of a Dungeons and Dragons like game. I had never even heard of it until i started playing 3.0 Dungeons and Dragons.  so when i saw the topic i laughed until i hurt, but come to think of it I have never seen any stats for it......Hummmmmmm guess i need to do some research.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:49 AM

View Postmysticwerewolf, on 16 October 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

I was under the impression that cathulu ( not sure how it is spelled) was a fictional being out of a Dungeons and Dragons like game. I had never even heard of it until i started playing 3.0 Dungeons and Dragons.  so when i saw the topic i laughed until i hurt, but come to think of it I have never seen any stats for it......Hummmmmmm guess i need to do some research.

There are several ways to spell it, and pronounce it, none are correct or incorrect.  Cthulhu's origins are in the literary works of H.P. Lovecraft, specifically The Call of Cthulhu, published in 1928.  He is a fictional cosmic extraterrestrial entity, and has been included in a number of RPG games, notably Chaosium's Call of Cthulhu.  Lovecraft's works became known as the Cthulhu Mythos and includes many other entities and horrors, of which Cthulhu is among the most powerful.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:55 PM

View PostOrcseeker, on 12 October 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Posted Image Posted Image I believe it looks quite similar to the eye of a swordfish
Good call - the experts agree that's where it probably came from.  A swordfish...that may have possibly been killed by CTHULHU


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:08 PM

View PostInsanity, on 16 October 2012 - 03:49 AM, said:

There are several ways to spell it, and pronounce it, none are correct or incorrect.  Cthulhu's origins are in the literary works of H.P. Lovecraft, specifically The Call of Cthulhu, published in 1928.  He is a fictional cosmic extraterrestrial entity, and has been included in a number of RPG games, notably Chaosium's Call of Cthulhu.  Lovecraft's works became known as the Cthulhu Mythos and includes many other entities and horrors, of which Cthulhu is among the most powerful.
Iv never heard of the Chaosium Call of Cthulhu game. I learn something new everytime I get on here :tu: :tu:

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:07 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 16 October 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Iv never heard of the Chaosium Call of Cthulhu game. I learn something new everytime I get on here :tu: :tu:

It is probably the best RPG with regards to a good Lovecraftian feel.  Fair amount of rules regarding Sanity checks and temporary or permanent insanities.
There is a thread on RPGs if we wish to discuss it there.

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