Thutmoses III

[Codebreaker]

A meter hit the earth in the year 3,150 B.C. Causeing the ice sheet to slip off of the continent of Antartica, which chased the great deluge or flood. Noah was 600 years old at that time he lived another 350 years and died in the 2,800 B.C. Legend has it that Moses the arcitec of the tora. The first 5 books of the bible, wrote and traslated the story of the great flood 1300 hundred years after it happened. 2800 B.C-1300 B.C = 1500B.C.

There is no written history of Moses ever exsisting in Egypt. But there was a pharoah born in the year 1500 B.C and his name was Thutmoses III.

Thutmosis III was the Napolean of all the pharoah who lived before and after him.

He was the greatest pharoah who ever lived in the history of Egypt.

Thutmoses III was Moses of the bible.

Legend has it, that when Thutmoses was 3 years old he playfully knocked the crown from the queen head. A bad omin to the high preist of Egypt, the childs intention must be tested, they brought two bowls and sat them in front of the baby Thutmoses III. One bowl was filled with gold, and the other with hot coals. If the child choses the gold, we shall have to kill him they said, but if he choses the hot coals we shall let him live.

The baby Moses grabbed a hot coal and through it in his mouth. Thus he was maimed for life, and he was slow of tongue and slow of speech. when he went infront of the burning bush.

Edited April 30, 2005 by Codebreaker

[Elfstone810]

Gosh, what a mix of history and religion. Tuthmosis III ruled Egypt from ca. 1504 BCE to ca. 1450 BCE. He was already a grown man when he ascended to the throne. Though he had inherited the throne as a child, his stepmother Hatshepsut ruled as his regent, became very powerful, and did not actually give up the throne to him until her death.

I really don't see too many parallels to the Biblical story of Moses here. Are you connecting them because of the similarities of the names Tuthmosis and Moses? Tuthmosis was the Greek name for this pharaoh. (It means "born of Thoth", I believe.) His throne name was Men-kheper-re.

Interesting fellow though. Of course, the 18th Dynasty was an interesting time.

[marduk]

A meter hit the earth in the year 3,150 B.C. Causeing the ice sheet to slip off of the continent of Antartica, which chased the great deluge or flood. Noah was 600 years old at that time he lived another 350 years and died in the 2,800 B.C. Legend has it that Moses the arcitec of the tora. The first 5 books of the bible, wrote and traslated the story of the great flood 1300 hundred years after it happened. 2800 B.C-1300 B.C = 1500B.C.

There is no written history of Moses ever exsisting in Egypt. But there was a pharoah born in the year 1500 B.C and his name was Thutmoses III.

Thutmosis III was the Napolean of all the pharoah who lived before and after him.

He was the greatest pharoah who ever lived in the history of Egypt.

Thutmoses III was Moses of the bible.

Legend has it, that when Thutmoses was 3 years old he playfully knocked the crown from the queen head. A bad omin to the high preist of Egypt, the childs intention must be tested, they brought two bowls and sat them in front of the baby Thutmoses III. One bowl was filled with gold, and the other with hot coals. If the child choses the gold, we shall have to kill him they said, but if he choses the hot coals we shall let him live.

The baby Moses grabbed a hot coal and through it in his mouth. Thus he was maimed for life, and he was slow of tounge and slow of speech. when he went infront of the burning bush.

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so this meteor hit in 3150 bce huh. s'funny cos the story that the tale of Noah was adapted from was written in 3500bce. So this Noah of yours had a time machine as well.

Also Thutmosis III was not moses. Moses is a fictional character and he's been more strongly linked to Ahmose by biblical scholars anyway. So you're wrong on both counts.

The story about the coals and the gold is a new one.

can you provide a link to soemwhere I can read all of it on the internet or is it one of your persoanl beleifs

[Essan]

A meter hit the earth in the year 3,150 B.C. Causeing the ice sheet to slip off of the continent of Antartica,

Aha! So that's why there's no ice sheet in Antarctica these days, it all slipped off into the sea 5,000 years ago

[Essan]

Btw - are you sure it was a meter? Not a yard?

[marduk]

Btw - are you sure it was a meter?  Not a yard?

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Depends if they got imperial or metric where he's from.

I believe that the antartic is Metric so that would mean that he was quite correct in his usage of meter.

incidentally the unit of length has changed since it hit

The meter was originally defined as 1/10,000,000 of the distance between the equator and either pole.

Now of course it is defined as the distance light travels through a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second.

Hope that clears it all up

Now as he was saying.

The bible also states that the roar of moses's triumph was heard throughout the land.

That doesn't neccesarily mean that he had a motorcycle either.

[Tricia-Ann]

The Moses of the bible was Tutmoses, Akenaten's elder brother who was ousted from the family because he refused to bow to the Gods of the day.

He warned that if they didn't start to worship the 'one God' (the sun) there would be darkness, followed by fire that will light the night sky, rain of rocks, rain of dust, rain of frogs and plagues. Lo and behold, a volcano blew it's nut (est. to be eight times bigger than Mnt. St.Helena) that produced all these effects.(Try reading accounts of St.Helena's blast and it reads the same ) It also caused a Tsunami which drew back the sea and allowed Moses and his followers to cross the 'REED Sea' and when the tidal wave came it drowned the following army of his brother Akenaten.

This so impressed his brother and father that they moved the capital to a new location and built monuments to the solar deity.

Just read about this in a good book called 'Act of God' by Graham Philips

[marduk]

The Moses of the bible was Tutmoses, Akenaten's elder brother who was ousted from the family because he refused to bow to the Gods of the day.

He warned that if they didn't start to worship the 'one God' (the sun) there would be darkness, followed by fire that will light the night sky, rain of rocks, rain of dust, rain of frogs and plagues. Lo and behold, a volcano blew it's nut (est. to be eight times bigger than Mnt. St.Helena) that produced all these effects.(Try reading accounts of St.Helena's blast and it reads the same ) It also caused a Tsunami which drew back the sea and allowed Moses and his followers to cross the 'REED Sea' and when the tidal wave came it drowned the following army of his brother Akenaten.

This so impressed his brother and father that they moved the capital to a new location and built monuments to the solar deity.

Just read about this in a good book called 'Act of God' by Graham Philips

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uhuh. so moses was into worshipping yahweh and his brother who followed his teachings worshipped aton.

Is that supposed to make sense

whats wrong with Ahmose, his name sounds similar why not pick him

lol

[Elfstone810]

@ Essan. I got your joke, dude.

To attempt to address Tricia-Anne, um. Okay, here's the deal. Before the time of Akhenaton the state of ancient Egypt officially worshipped a pantheon, or group of gods, with the main god of the pantheon being Amon. Akhenaton's original name was Amenhotep IV. When Akhenaton came to power he declared that there was only one god, Aton the sun god. He ordered the closing of the temples to the other gods, obliterated their images and did his best to eradicate the influential priesthood.

He also broke with tradition in a number of other important ways. For centuries Egyptian artists had been bound by a strict code that dictated how they were to portray people and things. Akhenaton instructed them to create "what they saw" and this led to an artistic revolution of realism. He built a new city, Akhetaten, at the site of present day Tel al Amarna, and moved the seat of the government there. He presented himself as the intermediary of Aton, declaring himself a god-king, and was the first Pharoah to be called "Pharoah".

His reign only lasted about seventeen years and exactly how it ended is not known. There is a tomb for him and there is evidence that he was buried there, but what became of his mummy is unknown. (This is far from unusual, of course.) It is possible that his supporters may have hidden his mummy, perhaps at Thebes, to protect it from destruction in the religious backlash that followed his death.

He was followed by the short-lived Smenkhkare, who moved to Thebes and began restoring the temples of Amon. (They may have been co-regents for a short time, in fact.) Smenkhkare was followed by Akhenaton's son-in-law (at best guess -- the royal lineage in Egypt, where the pharoahs had multiple wives, was very confusing!) Tutenkhamen. King Tut was originally Tutenkhaton, but was persuaded by the priesthood to change his name to honor Amon. Akhetaten was razed and a concerted effort was undertaken to obliterate all signs of Akhenaten's heretical reign.

It is possible, though far from proven, that Akhenaten's monotheistic sun cult influenced the later developement of Judaism. As far as your story, though, I think someone has misunderstood the actual history. The pharoahs had many different names and modern spellings of them vary, so it can be confusing. Oh, and this all happened ca. 1350 - 1334 BCE, or about a hundred years after the time of Tuthmosis III.

[marduk]

@ Essan.  I got your joke, dude.

To attempt to address Tricia-Anne, um.  Okay, here's the deal.  Before the time of Akhenaton the state of ancient Egypt officially worshipped a pantheon, or group of gods, with the main god of the pantheon being Amon.  Akhenaton's original name was Amenhotep IV.  When Akhenaton came to power he declared that there was only one god, Aton the sun god.  He ordered the closing of the temples to the other gods, obliterated their images and did his best to eradicate the influential priesthood. 

He also broke with tradition in a number of other important ways.  For centuries Egyptian artists had been bound by a strict code that dictated how they were to portray people and things.  Akhenaton instructed them to create "what they saw" and this led to an artistic revolution of realism.  He built a new city, Akhetaten, at the site of present day Tel al Amarna, and moved the seat of the government there.  He presented himself as the intermediary of Aton, declaring himself a god-king, and was the first Pharoah to be called "Pharoah".

His reign only lasted about seventeen years and exactly how it ended is not known.  There is a tomb for him and there is evidence that he was buried there, but what became of his mummy is unknown.  (This is far from unusual, of course.)  It is possible that his supporters may have hidden his mummy, perhaps at Thebes, to protect it from destruction in the religious backlash that followed his death.

He was followed by the short-lived Smenkhkare, who moved to Thebes and began restoring the temples of Amon.  (They may have been co-regents for a short time, in fact.)  Smenkhkare was followed by Akhenaton's son-in-law (at best guess -- the royal lineage in Egypt, where the pharoahs had multiple wives, was very confusing!) Tutenkhamen.  King Tut was originally Tutenkhaton, but was persuaded by the priesthood to change his name to honor Amon.  Akhetaten was razed and a concerted effort was undertaken to obliterate all signs of Akhenaten's heretical reign.

It is possible, though far from proven, that Akhenaten's monotheistic sun cult influenced the later developement of Judaism.  As far as your story, though, I think someone has misunderstood the actual history.  The pharoahs had many different names and modern spellings of them vary, so it can be confusing.  Oh, and this all happened ca. 1350 - 1334 BCE, or about a hundred years after the time of Tuthmosis III.

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also it would be well to add that the exodus story maybe just that.

A story

[The Roswell Man]

are marduk, u believe nothing in the bible has historical basis?

[marduk]

are marduk, u believe nothing in the bible has historical basis?

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the new testament maybe.

all the stuff in the old

no not at all

if you want to read the original story you have to do it in sumerian

that has a very historical basis

the bible was written as a handbook for a newly founded religion

most of its contents are of an ecunemical nature

not a historic one

[The Roswell Man]

i herad sumwhere thta the bible mentioned a canal built thousands of years ago i think, and its from the old testament thta mentioned it.

[marduk]

i herad sumwhere thta the bible mentioned a canal built thousands of years ago i think, and its from the old testament thta mentioned it.

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and ?

[The Roswell Man]

sum interesting old testament stuff:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a027.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=33168

http://phoenicia.org/carthanewworld.html

http://www.struggler.org/BookReviews.html

[marduk]

sum interesting old testament stuff:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a027.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=33168

http://phoenicia.org/carthanewworld.html

http://www.struggler.org/BookReviews.html

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hmmm

you seem to be suffering under the delusion that I'm a christian

I'M NOT

once you take away the faith the bible is a pretty poor story book