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#1351    zoser

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:13 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 10 December 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Thank you.  Perhaps that confirms what I just said.
The Spaniards were not impressed because they did not witness any fantastic technology or techniques:

That's right; it occurred well before they arrived.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:15 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 10 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

Go back and read Abramelin's citations.



You're projecting. They're an occupation force. Their first order of business after subduing the population is to establish a usable infrastructure. That requires Speed and efficiency.  Bear in mind there was nothing to keep them from replicating the style at least using their own methods, yet they didn't. Why?
The fact that stylistically, all the colonial construction in the new world emulates that of the old should also be taken into account. The Inca construction would be incompatible with that, more-so for being the products of heathens to a culture known for ruthlessly stamping such things out in favor of  assimilation to their own.

I don't know why.  There are ideas about it but look back at my last few posts.  The logic is inescapable.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 10 December 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:


The art of megalithic precision architecture, as you put it, no longer held the importance that it did before the Spanish arrived.


Extremely convenient and a cop out.  Are you really saying that they chose to build churches using inferior methods rather than let them stand forever?  Really?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I know the history as well as you do STF.  The point is that if what you are saying is true the Spanish would have had a fantastic technology or technique to export to Europe.  It didn't happen.

The art of megalithic precision architecture died with the original builders.

You're operating under the assumption that the technique or method was superior to what the Spanish already had. If it wasn't, and the evidence strongly suggests it wasn't, then all you're left with is an aesthetic, and aesthetically, to European eyes, they're a mess.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

Extremely convenient and a cop out.  Are you really saying that they chose to build churches using inferior methods rather than let them stand forever?  Really?

We do that today.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

This site is quite interesting imo. Marcahuamachuco

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

Zoser look this. This although in Mexico. Largest pyramid in America under Church.

http://en.wikipedia....amid_of_Cholula

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I don't know why.  There are ideas about it but look back at my last few posts.  The logic is inescapable.
In that case, call me Snake.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

Extremely convenient and a cop out.  Are you really saying that they chose to build churches using inferior methods rather than let them stand forever?  Really?

Would you use what you would consider primitive building techniques over your own tried and true method? The workforce,cost and logistics would have been prohibitive for Spanish society at the time. What you suggest is simply not feasible. But then again, the AA theory can't account for that. Soooo...aliens. :rolleyes:

Edited by Slave2Fate, 10 December 2012 - 07:24 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Another smoking gun; relevant to the discussion and an expert witness.  Expert stonemason and sculptor Roger Hopkins comments on the ancient precision stonework:

Here is the title just in case it gets snipped:


Ancient-Aliens-Season-1-Episode-1-The-Evidence-Part 5




Childress says, "a hand held beam weapon" to move stones. How can you possibly regard these episodes as anything more than fantasy.
Zoser, how much credibility do you think we can place on an episode of Ancient Aliens?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

View Postzoser, on 10 December 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Character assassinations don't work for me Q.  The guy is extremely sincere, deeply interested, open minded and has a fresh intuitive insight into the issues.

I don't care if he juggled in a circus for a living I really don't.  Thank God there are some people bringing a new lease of energy into this topic.

Character Assassination - The malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation.

Please explain how I harmed his good reputation in light of the fact that I posted, from the site you linked to, what his qualifications were and posed a question to you that in spite of his lack of experience in the appropriate fields you considered him the one to go to.

I am unable to watch his videos at this location so let me pose another question.  If he advocates an unknown technology used in building the ancient monuments and that it couldn't be done by the indigenous people, basically saying the same thing you are, how is it a fresh insight.

AA LOGIC
They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 10 December 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

You're operating under the assumption that the technique or method was superior to what the Spanish already had. If it wasn't, and the evidence strongly suggests it wasn't, then all you're left with is an aesthetic, and aesthetically, to European eyes, they're a mess.

Which has lasted longer?  Precision fit means able to withstand the rigours of nature surely?  It's an infallible argument yet the Spanish used inferior methods; contemporary with Renaissence Europe perhaps but nonetheless inferior.  

Look at how much it has cost to repair the European cathedrals.  This is not subject to opinion; it's fact.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 10 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Character Assassination - The malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation.

Please explain how I harmed his good reputation in light of the fact that I posted, from the site you linked to, what his qualifications were and posed a question to you that in spite of his lack of experience in the appropriate fields you considered him the one to go to.

I am unable to watch his videos at this location so let me pose another question.  If he advocates an unknown technology used in building the ancient monuments and that it couldn't be done by the indigenous people, basically saying the same thing you are, how is it a fresh insight.

You did exactly as I suggested.  Digging into a person's past in an attempt to cast doubt in the minds of others as to his credibility.  Thus infering that he is unfit to comment on the subject in question.

I've seen the skeptics here do this countless times.  Next wait for someone to do it to Roger Hopkins.

A spade is a spade; not a convex shaped  metallic earth shifter.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 10 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Childress says, "a hand held beam weapon" to move stones. How can you possibly regard these episodes as anything more than fantasy.
Zoser, how much credibility do you think we can place on an episode of Ancient Aliens?

And your comment on Roger Hopkins the expert witness is......................................?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

View PostEly, on 10 December 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

the Mayas were given their calendars directly by Rebel 'celestial' beings, aka Quetzalcóatl, Kukulkán, Viracocha (however one calls them),

Unfortunately for your credibility, and for the Maya calendar story (assuming they actually claimed that,) it appears that the Olmec had a very similar calendar prior to the Maya.

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