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[questionmark]

freetoroam, on 07 February 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

was thinking of starting a thread about Findus, but now you have mentioned it here, this is good enough, too many threads on the same subjects anyway.

Good old Poland and Ireland and Supermarkets following the EU rules:

Topics

EU rules until 12 Dec. 2014
EU rules after 13 Dec. 2014
Price indication
Quinine & caffeine
Beef
Labelling of GMOs
Legislation applicable until 12 December 2014
EU legislation on food labelling covers:

• General rules on food labelling
  
• Rules for specific foods e.g. beef or chocolate.

Directive 2000/13/EC on labelling, presentation and advertising of foods is the main EU legislation on the subject.
Key points of Directive 2000/13/EC

• Consumers get all the essential information on composition, manufacturer, storage methods and preparation, etc.
  
• Applies to foods delivered as such to the consumer or to restaurants, hospitals, canteens and other mass caterers.
  
• Food labels must be indelible and easy to see, understand and read, with some particulars appearing in the same field of vision.
  
• Substances known as allergens must always be indicated on the label. (EU list of allergens or substances causing intolerances - Annex IIIa).
  
  • Informal guidelines on how manufacturers must label such substances
    
  • Guidance on requests for exemptions after 25 November 2007
• Labels must indicate the quantity of certain ingredients as a percentage of the final product (Quantitative Ingredients Declaration - QUID).
  
  • Guidelines for implementing the QUID

• Producers and manufacturers can give additional labelling information, if it is accurate and does not mislead the consumer.
  
• Prohibits claims on any food that it prevents, treats or cures a human disease.

Rules are only as good as its enforcement.
The rules are made in Brussels, and Brussels is far away....

[freetoroam]

questionmark, on 07 February 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Rules are only as good as its enforcement.
The rules are made in Brussels, and Brussels is far away....

yes, it seems the Brussels rules are as popular as their vegetable counterparts, all pushed to the other side of the plate!

[ali smack]

I am getting seriously worried. I ate a beef pasty last month. I have also eaten cheese burgers, which I believe had beef in them 2 months ago. I hope they didn't contain horse meat

[AsteroidX]

If its unpopular I would imagine BK would have changed vendors for there beef. There in it for money and dont want the continued reputation smear.

[AsteroidX]

I did just find this gem however.

http://www.csmonitor...rgers-meatballs

[stevewinn]

why am i not surprised the sources of the meat is coming from countries outside of the UK. civilized people dont eat horse.

[Shayde]

Another thing to get worried about with just what the blazes might be in our food. Are they trying to put us off eating anything? Mark you, there are now several jokes coming to the fore on this subject. Some of them wonderfully offensive!

[questionmark]

stevewinn, on 08 February 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

why am i not surprised the sources of the meat is coming from countries outside of the UK. civilized people dont eat horse.

So, Britain until the 1930s was uncivilized?

[stevewinn]

questionmark, on 08 February 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

So, Britain until the 1930s was uncivilized?

i think you'll find the consumption was limited, infact if you knew a thing or two instead of just headline grabbing of the first result google throws up, to try and make a point in our game of oneupmanship    - if you knew your history you'll find the increase in horse meat consumption was to do with refugees from the first world war. who came over here. once we sorted that little mess out, and brought a bit of civility back to europe the consumption decreased to the level we see today which seems to be 80%+ of beef products. those dirty europeans' how dare they feed us that tripe, a food of depression and poverty. only something the lessers would eat with relish. the likes of the Koreans of Europe France. they'd eat anything. - Britain 1 - Questionmark - 0

Edited by stevewinn, 08 February 2013 - 07:05 PM.

[ealdwita]

Can anyone remember who once said, "Belgians? They'll drink anything that can be brewed in a bucket, and eat anything that can't crawl out of one!"? Oh hang on, that might've been me!

[questionmark]

stevewinn, on 08 February 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

i think you'll find the consumption was limited, infact if you knew a thing or two instead of just headline grabbing of the first result google throws up, to try and make a point in our game of oneupmanship    - if you knew your history you'll find the increase in horse meat consumption was to do with refugees from the first world war. who came over here. once we sorted that little mess out, and brought a bit of civility back to europe the consumption decreased to the level we see today which seems to be 80%+ of beef products. those dirty europeans' how dare they feed us that tripe, a food of depression and poverty. only something the lessers would eat with relish. the likes of the Koreans of Europe France. they'd eat anything. - Britain 1 - Questionmark - 0

I just took you up on your statement, which was pretty categorical. So I suppose you say that Britain indeed was uncivilized until the 30s. Because in the rest of Europe the consumption of horse was pretty limited too. Mostly to horses nobody wanted anymore or to sick to use as animal of burden.

[ExpandMyMind]

It's not just red meat we have to worry about.

Edited by ExpandMyMind, 08 February 2013 - 09:10 PM.

[BonecrusherPotlessjinxpotl]

questionmark, on 07 February 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

in related news:

I don't know really...
I'm dithering a little bit here having seen horsemeat being displayed in a continental shop.
These lasagnes could be kosher but it's still processed food.
So in a way it makes it more dubious than horsemeat in burgers even though they had more of an inkling when it came to the true content.
Because processed food or any snack you stick in a microwave does have warning signs.
How many times has my sister told me to  have your food fresh instead of this.
You might have more of a bulge in your shopping bag but I  think people in the UK are going to get ingredients instead.
I don't think you would ever call a home- made lasagne processed.

Btw I'm fully expecting this fiasco to never end with the new revelation of horse's cheese.
That's going to cause a backlash for sure.

Edited by Medium Brown, 08 February 2013 - 10:12 PM.

[freetoroam]

What gets me is not the horsemeat alone, its the fact that the supermarkets do not seems to know what they are selling on their shelves. Surely they have "buyers" who check these things out. There are regulations which have been severely broken here.
What else is on our shelves which the supermarkets do not know about?

AND why are they buying meat from Poland anyway, are we that short of cows now since they killed many during the BSE crisis.....and where did the food for the cows come from then? all over Europe. And we are following the rules they tell us to? why?

[spud the mackem]

What else are these bl**dy Europeans gonna get up to,to try and upset us. Its time we turned our backs on them.Out of the 27 member Euro states we have about 4 allies the rest are against Britain, for whatever reason their twisted minds can come up with,and we are still contributing £millions to their coffers.