Persia Posted May 14, 2011 #1 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Devotees of science fiction have been convinced for decades that an alien spacecraft crashed in the desert of New Mexico – and that the American government covered up the recovery of extraterrestrial bodies. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8512408/Roswell-was-Soviet-plot-to-create-US-panic.html It wasn't aliens, it was Nazis, Communists and mutants: New book reveals the 'real' story behind the Roswell landing http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386999/Stalin-Joseph-Mengele-Nazi-jet-fighter-New-book-Annie-Jacobsen-reveals-real-story-alien-landing-Roswell.html#ixzz1MJFGqStp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted May 14, 2011 #2 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrangurk Posted May 14, 2011 #3 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ? Nice one Habitat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqmsonite Posted May 14, 2011 #4 Share Posted May 14, 2011 LOL@habitat indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meankitty Posted May 14, 2011 #5 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Now come here Habitat and clean up the coffee that went through my nose and onto my monitor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 14, 2011 #6 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Sounds like a variation of the story that it was deformed products of Japanese eugenics experiments or something along those lines that were used as test dummies by the US for Secret Aircraft testing. At least that version is slightly more credible in that it doesn't suppose the USSR managing to get a Secret Bomber across the Atlantic and into US airspace undetected, and within shouting distance of the base of the bomber squadron that had dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, before it went "whoopsie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio state buckeyes Posted May 14, 2011 #7 Share Posted May 14, 2011 So was doesn't the US say that there would be no reason to hide it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taut Posted May 14, 2011 #8 Share Posted May 14, 2011 You go, Habitat....LMAO. Guess the new book just ignores all the statements of Marcel to Stanton Friedman and hundreds of corroborating stories. Disinformation is a powerful tool. Too work this hard, on multiple levels to discredit the incident, and keep doing it for this long, only lends more credence to the original stories. Right on 747400! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelbie25 Posted May 14, 2011 #9 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ? Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlaiden Posted May 14, 2011 #10 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Yeah, right... Although the Soviets would have loved to have done something like this, I doubt they had the gall. Sounds like a smokescreen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselsRippedMyFlesh Posted May 14, 2011 #11 Share Posted May 14, 2011 looks pregnant lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMcGuffin Posted May 15, 2011 #12 Share Posted May 15, 2011 My question about Roswell is whether all the witnesses are complete liars? There are hundreds of civilian and military witnesses, and the only way to deny the whole story about some kind of weird thing crashing there is if all of them are 100% liars or 100% crazy. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1944311/the_roswell_ufo_crash_case_roswell_confessions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted May 15, 2011 #13 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Or 100% Tequila ! Viva Tequila ! Now thats a Roswell wit Salt on the Ridge ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronztrek Posted May 15, 2011 #14 Share Posted May 15, 2011 If ever you open your eyes, you may finally see and realise that direct experience is the only truth you'll ever really know. Even what is an apparent absolute truth for me can only ever be your belief. Keep it clear in the mind that beliefs are not truth. Not even close. Beliefs only obscure truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoldguy Posted May 15, 2011 #15 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ? I think Habitat has written the definitive review of this drivel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxus Posted May 15, 2011 #16 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Ha ha ha ha ha classic - Thanks Persia! What I want to know is what the skeptics think of this - it certainly would explain why so many witnesses claim to have seen a craft or bodies. We're never going to hear the end of this 'Roswell Incident'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 15, 2011 #17 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ? Hahaha, that was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 15, 2011 #18 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Ha ha ha ha ha classic - Thanks Persia! What I want to know is what the skeptics think of this - it certainly would explain why so many witnesses claim to have seen a craft or bodies. We're never going to hear the end of this 'Roswell Incident'. Well, surely you don't need to ask the Skeptics. Surely even the most enthusiastic Believer could only ROTF, L'ing, at the preposterousness of the whole idea. Did, by the way, any witnesses who claimed to be on the spot at the time claim to see any bodies? or were they added as a colourful detail subsequently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxus Posted May 15, 2011 #19 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Well, surely you don't need to ask the Skeptics. Surely even the most enthusiastic Believer could only ROTF, L'ing, at the preposterousness of the whole idea. Did, by the way, any witnesses who claimed to be on the spot at the time claim to see any bodies? or were they added as a colourful detail subsequently? Yes, absolutely they did... one that springs to mind off the top of my head is a fire fighter that was 'on scene' - he said he saw 'aliens'. I think he even claimed that he felt the 'thought', 'You can't help me', as if the alien was communicating telepathically... There was military - some guard who claimed he was allowed a peek... Wasn't there a nurse too? Edited May 15, 2011 by Paxus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 15, 2011 #20 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Hmmm, sounds like a Colourful Embellishment to me. I've always thought it'd be more likely that they'd use unmanned craft. Actually, I've just realised that this story is actually a non-ET theory, isn't it, so by definition, according to some, it must be inherently more plausible than the ET explanation. You're right, it would be interesting to see the opinions of people who hold such a view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoszerg Posted May 15, 2011 #21 Share Posted May 15, 2011 All I can think of is some drunk soviets saying "ahahaha lets go prank the Americans and pretend to be Aliens" and then try and fly their makeshift UFO while under the influence and crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted May 15, 2011 #22 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Yes, absolutely they did... one that springs to mind off the top of my head is a fire fighter that was 'on scene' - he said he saw 'aliens'. I think he even claimed that he felt the 'thought', 'You can't help me', as if the alien was communicating telepathically... There was military - some guard who claimed he was allowed a peek... Wasn't there a nurse too? yes.....and the underlined....that 'being' in the Is It Real thread hasn't got any ears.... if you communicated totally on the telepathic level you might not need ears...and you wouldn't need to speak any of the many earth languages. Which could come in handy when captured by humans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrod Posted May 16, 2011 #23 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) lol...funny stuff. Maybe that's what "Skinny bob" is, a USSR hoax to frighten Americans during the cold war and they never got a chance to release the footage and someone happened to stumble across it recently...viral away! Edited May 16, 2011 by Damrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre1979 Posted May 18, 2011 #24 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I guess it is possible, but I don't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiogene Posted May 25, 2011 #25 Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Oh darnit, I posted about my reactions to yesterday's Roswell news story on another related thread. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=206563&st=15&p=3917386entry3917386 After all, the Cold War was all about the risk of a Soviet invasion equipped with military air weaponry and nuclear bombs. But to expect Roswell itself was a Soviet maneuver into our national air space to miss its target, what kind of explanation is that? And someone mentioned the use of mutants, this is right out of the movie script of the upcoming X-Men: First Class. Edited May 25, 2011 by Makoto Jupiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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