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#1    Twisted

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 02:08 PM

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In this section we take a look at the evidence that men of giant stature—even larger and more robust than “Neanderthal” man existed in the past. It’s not an area that evolutionists really deal with at all. In fact, science does not acknowledge that these giant foot prints in rock or very large human bones even exist. It (very large man) certainly does not fit in with evolutionary theory. Christians generally believe that there were apes and there were men in the past. Evolutionists are not willing to accept that there existed in the past giant versions of modern man because there is not evolutionary explanation for their existence, just as there is no real attempt to explain giant versions of modern day animals.

(Left to Right, 6 foot Male, Goliath, Gigantopithecus and Og, King of Bashan)

On the other hand, those who believe that God created the world know that according to the Bible, men of giant stature once walked the earth. The Bible quite matter-of-factly states that there were giants in those days (before the flood) and also after.

A Christian, believing as he does that Goliath actually existed, does not need to be concerned with the confused state of anthropology and its controversies, he might wonder if evidence of these races and countries of giant men have been found? The answer, without having to sort ape from proto-ape and alleged proto-human is yes..as we will continue to see.

Finally, before begin looking at some of the evidence that giants actually lived, we want to point out one glaring, obvious fake story prevalent on the net: The Kossuth Giants.

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This giant skull, embedded in solid rock, presents several problems for materialists.

"And it may seem harmless to you now that its been exposed. But, did you know that over 500 people obtained their PhD's by writing their thesis on "the Piltdown Man"? I dare say, no one took back those PhDs after it was exposed, and those people taught hundreds of thousands of people." Wyatt, Newletter Five

In 1982 Dr. Lyall Watson stated: "The fossils that decorate our family tree are so scarce that there are still more scientists than specimens. The remarkable fact is that all of the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed, with room to spare, inside a single coffin!"

Likewise, a 1994 article in Time Magazine admitted that: "Yet despite more than a century of digging, the fossil record remains maddeningly sparse. With so few clues, even a single bone that doesn't fit into the picture can upset everything. Virtually every major discovery has put deep cracks in the conventional wisdom and forced scientists to concoct new theories, amid furious debate."

Prior to more recent developments of techniques for dating by means of radioactive materials, there were fundamentally only two methods of estimating the age of a fossil. The first was the geological level at which the specimen was found.

The second, applying more particularly to human fossils, was the general appearance: whether apish and "primitive," or essentially like modern man. These two criteria are still largely applied, since the majority of the more ancient remains of early man are completely fossilized and C-14 methods of dating cannot be used.

But it has long been recognized that if the fossil remains of early man are arranged according to their degree of primitiveness, the order will be found to contradict the series arranged on the basis of antiquity as established by the levels at which they are found."

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GIGANTOPITHECUS" & "MEGANTHROPUS"

There is no controversy about these facts; there was a race or group of people found in Australia called "meganthropus" by anthropologists. These people were of very large size--estimated between 7 to 12 feet tall, depending on what source you read.

These people were found with mega tool artifacts, so their humaness is difficult to question. Four jaw fragments and thousands of teeth have been found in China of "gigantopithecus blacki"--named after the discover. Based on the size of the teeth and deep jaws, its size has been estimated at around 10 feet and as tall as 12 feet, 1200 pounds. (Photo:Giant human femur reportedly found in Turkey)

The "problem" is that human fossils are the rarest of all, and generally, only the hardest bones, jaws, teeth and skulls survive. As with most "early man" artistic recreations, a great deal of the individual is surmised.

The question is, is gigantopithecus a man or an ape? I personally have no opinion, but it is clear that very large men did live once. Scientists are of course afraid of being ridiculed and rather than estimate the size of the individuals possessing larger skulls and teeth than "us", they prefer to use the term robust.

Anthropologists spend quite a bit of time trying to decide what is an ape, what is a man, who they believe descended from who and the like. Now, most consider gigantopithecus an ape,(its more convenient to the theory of evol) but the co-discover at least, and many others still see no difference between the teeth and jaws of Giganto than other so-called ancestors.

As we said, everyone believes that meganthropus with his mega-tools was a "man". Tools have been found in the same area as giganto as well, but the tendency has been to associate them with other "types' found at the same location.

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on the top left is one of the skulls biologists have labeled Australopithecines. On the right Meganthropus. Bottom left is a modern man in scale along with a chimpanzee skull.

Giant stone-age man stone artefacts (implements) have been found in Central Western NSW Southern & far Northern Qld. These implements consist of hand axes, clubs, pounders, adzes, knives & other tools often ranging in weight from 8 to 36 lbs or more.

These artefacts are in fact identical to those used by meganthropus the giant Java man who inhabited SE Asia over a "million years ago", Meganthropus stood 12 feet tall & weighed several hundred pounds...AWARENESS QUEST

Early in this century some unusually large human teeth and jawbones turned up, ones so large that their owner's size has been estimated at six to nine feet tall. Those found in Europe were named Meganthropus, those found in south China and Java became known as Gigantopithecus

If one believes the Biblical account, their presence is no mystery, since giants are mentioned as living before the Flood



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Posted 21 April 2006 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 02:22 PM

I`m not religious but I think there was giants once, Its not just the bible that mentions them many of the old religions mention them from the Celts to the Vikings to the Greeks, such a widespread belief has to have some basis of fact.


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Posted 23 April 2006 - 09:42 AM

I believe Giants walked the earth once. Remains have been found with families all larger than 7ft

I heard that they helped build pyrimids, but later had a war with humans. Humans being fast, small and smart, won. Giants being Slow, Big and dumb... lost.. only a theory


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Posted 23 April 2006 - 12:29 PM

Welcome Twisted to the UM Forum.

It might be a good idea when you cut and paste from a web site to give a link to where you get it from (you do not want the wrath of the MODs). I have been to that web site before so I knew where you got it from.

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 12:44 PM

Wow.  The article begins with a series of misconceptions, then goes straight into contradicting itself...

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In this section we take a look at the evidence that men of giant stature—even larger and more robust than “Neanderthal” man existed in the past. It’s not an area that evolutionists really deal with at all. In fact, science does not acknowledge that these giant foot prints in rock or very large human bones even exist.


Actually, scientists do acknowledge they exist.  They simply believe they are fakes or mistakes.

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It (very large man) certainly does not fit in with evolutionary theory.


How so?  Why would a very large humanoid, if shown to exist, contradict evolutionary theory?

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Christians generally believe that there were apes and there were men in the past.


So do scientists, but I will assume that you are talking about giant apes and giant humans.  Scientists believe there were giant apes in the past simply because they have found credible evidence leading to thier existance.  If such evidence were found for humans, it too would be recognized.

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Evolutionists are not willing to accept that there existed in the past giant versions of modern man because there is not evolutionary explanation for their existence, just as there is no real attempt to explain giant versions of modern day animals.


Again, why would large animals, either past or present, be not allowed by evolutionary theory?  Why would an evolutionist think such things are impossible?


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Posted 23 April 2006 - 01:28 PM

I do believe that giants existed. Legands of giants come from all over the world, and I tend to believe that most legends are based in fact - not to mention the small amount of evidence found concerning giant humans, and  various writings/stories about them.





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