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#331    green_dude777

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

View PostOdds, on 19 July 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Well i certainly have read through the thread, you'd know that if you had because i'm on almost every page. But profiling isn't illegal, but to me seems paranoid. Where i live in this part of Sydney, has a large surfing community and also a large lebanese community, and pretty much all the younger guys wear hoodies, it would be uncommon to not see them. So no, i wouldn't care what side of the street i was walking. If you feel intimidated to walk down the street in your own neighbourhood because someone is wearing a certain style of clothing, i think it's pretty clear where the problem lies, and it's it's not with the person who is wearing a hoodie.

Ok, well continue applying your anecdotes that are associated with a completely different area, with far less people.  As long as you're aware that what you consider 'wrong' isn't against the law, over here, in the U.S., where you don't live.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:10 PM

View Postgreen_dude777, on 19 July 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

Ok, well continue applying your anecdotes that are associated with a completely different area, with far less people. As long as you're aware that what you consider 'wrong' isn't against the law, over here, in the U.S., where you don't live.

You understand you asked me to answer the question of which group i would walk through, right..? And you know i live in a different area, it says so right next to my comments. And you answer with that? I should have expected as much.

And i don't see how having 4.6million in Sydney as opposed to 19million in Florida comes in to play when you are talking about a hoodie..? How you put population into your argument really makes no sense.

And lastly, i agreed and said it wasn't against the law, and i didn't say 'wrong' i said 'paranoid' ;)

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:00 AM

View Postgreen_dude777, on 19 July 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:



Ok, well continue applying your anecdotes that are associated with a completely different area, with far less people.  As long as you're aware that what you consider 'wrong' isn't against the law, over here, in the U.S., where you don't live.

Syndney has over twice the population density than Sanford.


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 02:13 AM

View PostThe Unseen, on 19 July 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

No there will not be,Every one thinks the blacks will act foolish and burn down everything in sight. Not going to happen.This is Florida not Compton.

Remember Miami? Let's hope that there's not a sequel. Like you, I doubt that there will be one, which will disappoint the extremists and the media. There probably will be a few sporadic incidents, though.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:48 PM

I think the hoodie was a minor contributor in this case.   Much smaller than Trayvon walking slowly through the rain acting suspiciously.  Smaller than an unrecognizable teen walking through a gated community that has had a rash of robberies.   Again, the media used the hoodie to make this a racist issue.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 03:31 PM

View PostMyles, on 21 July 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

I think the hoodie was a minor contributor in this case.   Much smaller than Trayvon walking slowly through the rain acting suspiciously.  Smaller than an unrecognizable teen walking through a gated community that has had a rash of robberies.   Again, the media used the hoodie to make this a racist issue.

Which only the most clueless sheltered whitest of white boys afraid of their own shadows would think hoodies are a black thing. Must be the root word hood that sets off their race trigger. Everyone I know has a hoodie or several including myself and especially every white girl I know wears them. The media invented this racial stereotype and its completely false. It's just an addition the liberal racist code word list.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:05 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 15 July 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

Update: Zimmerman is getting his gun back and plans to carry it according to his lawyer.

Really? Couldn't he use another gun instead of one that already has blood on it?

He can carry all he wants again, his right, but why announce it so cavalierly that the same exact weapon will be used?

Update: Zimmerman is not getting that gun back since it is being held during the Department of Justice's continued investigation of Zimmerman.

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George Zimmerman can't get back the gun he used to kill Trayvon Martin, but nothing is keeping him from purchasing another gun if he wants, Florida police said today.

Federal and local authorities said plans to return Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9 pistol were put on hold after the Department of Justice announced a new investigation to determine whether Zimmerman violated 17-year-old Martin's civil rights.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:13 PM

View PostMyles, on 21 July 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

I think the hoodie was a minor contributor in this case.   Much smaller than Trayvon walking slowly through the rain acting suspiciously.  Smaller than an unrecognizable teen walking through a gated community that has had a rash of robberies.   Again, the media used the hoodie to make this a racist issue.

Absolutely.

Anyone walking slowly and 'looking at houses', after dark, in the rain would have been regarded as suspicious.  Hoodie, naked, black, white, green...It doesn't matter.  I don't know why people are so hung up on this.

I think I'll give up on this thread, as most of the argument has grown circular.  The facts are pretty plain, the jury agreed, Zimmerman is a free man.

I feel horrible for the Martin family, and truly wish they wouldn't have lost their son, but throwing Zimmerman in jail would not fix that.  Zimmerman acting in self defense doesn't warrant his being convicted.  It's a horrible tragedy, but NOT an injustice.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:15 PM

View Postsupervike, on 21 July 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:



Absolutely.

Anyone walking slowly and 'looking at houses', after dark, in the rain would have been regarded as suspicious.  Hoodie, naked, black, white, green...It doesn't matter.  I don't know why people are so hung up on this.

I think I'll give up on this thread, as most of the argument has grown circular.  The facts are pretty plain, the jury agreed, Zimmerman is a free man.

I feel horrible for the Martin family, and truly wish they wouldn't have lost their son, but throwing Zimmerman in jail would not fix that.  Zimmerman acting in self defense doesn't warrant his being convicted.  It's a horrible tragedy, but NOT an injustice.

I agree. I'll try too. Let it divulge into a conspiracy thread/pity party for the sour grapes.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:33 PM

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Federal and local authorities said plans to return Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9 pistol were put on hold after the Department of Justice announced a new investigation to determine whether Zimmerman violated 17-year-old Martin's civil rights.

More like the justice department's violating Zimmie's rights.


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostThe world needs you, on 21 July 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

Update: Zimmerman is not getting that gun back since it is being held during the Department of Justice's continued investigation of Zimmerman.

No problem.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:19 PM

View PostSakari, on 23 July 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

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Seriously? So we are back to race again?

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:32 PM

View PostOdds, on 27 July 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:



Seriously? So we are back to race again?

The point of that is that this isn't a race specific situation and jury verdicts aren't based on race. I know you're 8,000 miles away but the issue of race has as much to do with this conversation as it doesn't? Confused? Maybe you are but I'd advise you to go back a year and start reading American media archives from the beginning of this case. Don't want to? Fine but if you're lost don't come asking more questions.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:18 AM

View PostF3SS, on 27 July 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

The point of that is that this isn't a race specific situation and jury verdicts aren't based on race. I know you're 8,000 miles away but the issue of race has as much to do with this conversation as it doesn't? Confused? Maybe you are but I'd advise you to go back a year and start reading American media archives from the beginning of this case. Don't want to? Fine but if you're lost don't come asking more questions.

It seems to me that the only people making it an issue of race are the black community and news stations such as CNN are guilty of fanning the racial flames.

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