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#16    Timonthy

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:29 AM

View Postcrisb, on 10 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

I've noticed that most of you think that these programs are fake.  In my opinion, many are not.  Unless you have had your own experiences with the paranormal, please don't subject your opinion onto others.  I have lived in haunted houses and all of my grandkids, my daughter, and I have all had our own experiences with the paranormal. Myy grandsons can see spirits, so can my grand-daughter. My daughter has another ability that she refuses to use because it scares her. She can hear what another person, especially those close to death or dead are saying. So yes, spirits are all around us, You just can't see nor hear them. When my grandsons began this, they were 2. It's been an ongoing thing for years. One is now 9 and the other is 5.  My grand-daugter is 15 and still has an uncanny habit of  saying " did you see that?"  or "who is that?"  I can't see a darn thing but I have in the past.  Thank God, that most of the spirits haven't been bad ones just ordinary people, like my daughter's ex-husband's father.  You can set a bunch of pictures in front of the oldest grandson and he can pick out the person that he sees. Even though he never met his grandfather, he knows exactly who it is.  So be picky and dislike the programs all you wish to but remember, someday it could happen to you too, when you least expect it.
I can understand why you all think they're fake.  I would too if I hadn't experienced things myself.
You experienced those things and looked for a paranormal answer, others would look for logical answers. The truth is - I have seen nothing presented which is compelling enough to need to look further than a logical answer.

I bet if you properly set up an experiment with your oldest grandson and pictures that there would be nothing conclusive in the data. Results would be in the known realm of chance/probability.

My opinion of course - but with all the people throughout history who have believed in and chased the paranormal, it's a little strange we have no solid proof - only logical explanations and some unknowns.
The shows are laughable - but

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:13 AM

I come from Mombasa, KENYA, off the indian ocean coast. If those ghost busters want real physical paranormal activity, then they are welcome to meet our resident jinn, no need for sophisticated gadgets - its all live for you to see


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:12 AM

View Postmasaimara, on 11 September 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

I come from Mombasa, KENYA, off the indian ocean coast. If those ghost busters want real physical paranormal activity, then they are welcome to meet our resident jinn, no need for sophisticated gadgets - its all live for you to see

Man, they're not gonna travel that far! Travel Channel for places the white folks like to visit. In safety.


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostTimonthy, on 11 September 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

You experienced those things and looked for a paranormal answer, others would look for logical answers. The truth is - I have seen nothing presented which is compelling enough to need to look further than a logical answer.

I bet if you properly set up an experiment with your oldest grandson and pictures that there would be nothing conclusive in the data. Results would be in the known realm of chance/probability.

My opinion of course - but with all the people throughout history who have believed in and chased the paranormal, it's a little strange we have no solid proof - only logical explanations and some unknowns.
The shows are laughable - but

Well, I've been lobbying for "solid proof" for a long time now. My way would be to select a site where there are paranormal happenings, a door opening and then closing and locking, or something similar. Then you put as many instruments as you can at that site AFTER making sure that particular happening can't be debunked.. Then run audio, video, and the rest 24 hours a day for at least a month. Or longer. I know, I know, watching the film and checking the other instruments would be a huge task, but that's what it's going to take.

But I have to agree with Crisb. You have to have your own experience before you can believe it. I am the biggest skeptic there is, but I have had a couple, let's call them weird, experiences with the paranormal and I can't explain them and neither can anyone else. They're not proof of the paranormal as I see it because I didn't have anyone with me, or the person with me didn't notice anything to verify it. So it's just a personal experience on my part. What it really comes down to is the integrity of the people telling you what happened, for better or worse. That's all.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:31 AM

Brother, haven't these show's died off yet? Ghost Hunters has been proven to fake "paranormal evidence and events." All one has to do is google it if you weren't privvy to actually seeing it first hand or being here when we debunked it. Ghost Adventures is one of the WORST shows on TV as far as paranormal investigation shows are concerned lol. Whoever still believes in these shows and their "credibility" I feel bad for you... Please, do us all a favor, educate yourselves, and then try to watch these horrendous shows.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:44 PM

KEEP THINKING THE SHOWS ARE FAKE I KNOW SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW NONE OF YOU WOULD EVEN LAST THREE MINUTES IN THIS LOCATION.I WATCH THE SHOWS AND NOT SCARED TO SAY IT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE STAY OFF THE POST AND KEEP YOUR JIBBERISH TO YOURSELF BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU MUST BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ON HERE COMMENTING SO MUCH. UNTILL THE PARANORMAL HAPPENS TO YOU MOST OF YOU ALL WILL NEVER BELIEVE BUT I TELL YOU THIS IT'S NOTHING TO PLAY WITH....TRUST ME.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

View Postslaughtr, on 02 October 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

KEEP THINKING THE SHOWS ARE FAKE I KNOW SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW NONE OF YOU WOULD EVEN LAST THREE MINUTES IN THIS LOCATION.I WATCH THE SHOWS AND NOT SCARED TO SAY IT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE STAY OFF THE POST AND KEEP YOUR JIBBERISH TO YOURSELF BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU MUST BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ON HERE COMMENTING SO MUCH. UNTILL THE PARANORMAL HAPPENS TO YOU MOST OF YOU ALL WILL NEVER BELIEVE BUT I TELL YOU THIS IT'S NOTHING TO PLAY WITH....TRUST ME.
first, turn caps off, it doesn't validate your opinion but put people off from reading it. second, never mix personal experiences with tv shows, especially when you only going by what they are showing you, there is a thing called editing and another called trying to get rantings.

Edited by Brian Topp, 02 October 2013 - 05:18 PM.

It is easier to claim it is paranormal than taking the hard route and find out what really happened.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:40 AM

I like ghost hunters and ghost adventures


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

Ghost shows are entertainment that plays on irrational belief.  Just like the shows about cryptids, alien visitation, conspiracy theories, etc nothing is ever really determined.  These shows merely lead the predisposed to draw conclusions that validate their irrational beliefs while absorbing the content of commercials for fast food and Geico.  It is really that simple.

Edited by sinewave, 12 October 2013 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:49 PM

View Postslaughtr, on 02 October 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

UNTILL THE PARANORMAL HAPPENS TO YOU MOST OF YOU ALL WILL NEVER BELIEVE BUT I TELL YOU THIS IT'S NOTHING TO PLAY WITH....TRUST ME.

How may I play with this stuff so that I can experience it?


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:52 PM

View Posthighdesert50, on 10 September 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

I would argue competition is healthy as it weeds out the hype and bling poseurs and, dare I say it, maybe even encourage the needed rigor for applying sound research methods. Now wouldn't that be a change of pace for maintaining credibility with viewers, use a research methodologist to help substantiate the results.
I don't agree.  When it comes to TV shows, entertainment and sensationalism tend to win out over dry factual documentaries.

Given that reality TV and documentaries seem to be these days involved in a race to the bottom to sensationalize the mundane, I would be surprised if being factual and applying sound scientific research is going to be of much interest to producers looking for more viewers.

I imagine a real life proper investigation into a paranormal incident or location is a hell of a lot more boring than what gets on your typical TV ghost hunter show.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:59 PM

View Postslaughtr, on 02 October 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

KEEP THINKING THE SHOWS ARE FAKE I KNOW SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW NONE OF YOU WOULD EVEN LAST THREE MINUTES IN THIS LOCATION.I WATCH THE SHOWS AND NOT SCARED TO SAY IT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE STAY OFF THE POST AND KEEP YOUR JIBBERISH TO YOURSELF BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU MUST BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ON HERE COMMENTING SO MUCH. UNTILL THE PARANORMAL HAPPENS TO YOU MOST OF YOU ALL WILL NEVER BELIEVE BUT I TELL YOU THIS IT'S NOTHING TO PLAY WITH....TRUST ME.
Personal experience of the paranormal no more validates those TV shows than personal experience of living in a house with people validates Big Brother as a realistic documentary about real people living in a house together.

Also, putting posts in ALL CAPS makes people look like a crazy person shouting on the Internet.

Edited by JesseCuster, 14 October 2013 - 11:04 PM.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:24 AM

View Postslaughtr, on 02 October 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

KEEP THINKING THE SHOWS ARE FAKE I KNOW SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW NONE OF YOU WOULD EVEN LAST THREE MINUTES IN THIS LOCATION.I WATCH THE SHOWS AND NOT SCARED TO SAY IT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE STAY OFF THE POST AND KEEP YOUR JIBBERISH TO YOURSELF BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU MUST BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ON HERE COMMENTING SO MUCH. UNTILL THE PARANORMAL HAPPENS TO YOU MOST OF YOU ALL WILL NEVER BELIEVE BUT I TELL YOU THIS IT'S NOTHING TO PLAY WITH....TRUST ME.

I have been in a lot of supposedly haunted places.  The only scary things I ever encountered were the types of people drawn to such places in the middle of the night. For the record, most of us who call those shows fake are specifically targeting their arbitrary conventions and their total lack of scientific method.  Most ghost busters spew rivers of BS when it comes to physics and the tools of their trade.  Being a public forum, it should be OK for us to point out where ghost busters are full of crap.

Just because you got scared in some dark and spooky place does not mean you experienced something paranormal.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:35 PM

I really liked Most Haunted and Ghost Hunters when they first started. They seemed to sincerely want to gather evidence and, for me, it was good entertainment with a few scares.
Unfortunately, both shows became way too over the top for me. Sound effects and spooky music were fine during interludes but during the actual investigation, annoying and distracting. Investigators freaking out and screaming because they just saw something incredibly terrifying but all the viewer got to see was the back of someone's t-shirt=crap. I've seen a few episodes of "Ghost adventures" and "Dead files" among others and I just don't enjoy them very much. Maybe because it's all been done before? More shows doesn't seem to equal better quality or a better approach at gathering evidence.





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