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[kampz]

Is there verifiable 100% proof that it's not man made? I'm looking..

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 06 December 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Is there verifiable 100% proof that it's not man made? I'm looking..

The question has been pretty well answered here before:

http://www.csicop.or...mini_beachrock/

http://mgg.rsmas.mia.../shinnfinal.pdf

cormac

[kampz]

Is there anywhere else in the ocean floor that looks like this? I'm looking..

I'm looking at this one picture. I'm obsessed over it. I wish I could visit one day. It seems possible that it couldn't of been submerged at a point. If Atlantis in the Caribbean is real then it's all the way up to Canada down to the Amazon and then West to Texas, Mexico and Central America. That's a lot to wipe out. How much did our oceans rise? That's difficult. Did the Aztecs, Mayans and others steal clay pots to put it blunty? But there seems to be something there still whether or not it's Atlantis related.

I'm at http://themysteriesu...imini-road.html

Ahhh Edgar Cayce. Strange.

If it's 50 miles off the coast of Cyprus according to Robert Sarmast, why did Atlanteans walk/sail to western Europe and Northwest Africa and start there invasion there working eastward to Athens? Your army will be dissolved. Athens and Atlantis would be pretty darn close at the start. Why isn't Atlantis invading Athens at the first move?

I agree with others that it might not be real. I told you guys I'm bad at the Atlantis game.

But where else could it be? I wished somebody gathered 500 people and 500 submarines and combed the sea floor and if they come back and said 'We aint found ****!" I'll be ok with it because I'll know.

Edited by kampz, 06 December 2012 - 07:05 AM.

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 06 December 2012 - 06:17 AM, said:

Is there anywhere else in the ocean floor that looks like this? I'm looking..

I'm looking at this one picture. I'm obsessed over it. I wish I could visit one day.

I'm at http://themysteriesu...imini-road.html

Ahhh Edgar Cayce. Strange.

If it's 50 miles off the coast of Cyprus according to Robert Sarmast, why did Atlanteans walk/sail to western Europe and Northwest Africa and start there invasion there working eastward to Athens? Athens and Atlantis would be pretty darn close at the start. Why isn't Atlantis invading Athens at the first move?

I agree with others that it might not be real. I told you guys I'm bad at the Atlantis game.

But where else could it be? I wished somebody gathered 500 people and 500 submarines and combed the sea floor and if they come back and said 'We aint found ****!" I'll be ok with it because I'll know.

It's not really much of a game, unless one wishes to play "Let's Pretend". Even though Plato wrote about it as a allegorical tale, even if one were to take it serioiusly he also gave it a specific location "in front of the Pillars of Hercules" and a fairly specific timeframe, c.9600 BC. Geologically, there's no evidence of any such place of the appropriate size having submerged at that point in time nor in the location Plato gives. And any further re-interpretation of what Plato said becomes nothing more than an attempt to rationalize Atlantis into existance.

cormac

[kampz]

We might of not looked in the right spots yet or we already overlooked it.  I'm leaning more toward the overlooking part or North/South America because everything in or near the Mediterranean Sea has been looked at almost. So it's North/South America or Mediterranean Sea for me. The safer approach in my opinion is choosing overlooking something near or in the Mediterranean Sea. Maybe even Tartessos. I admit I didn't look at it enough at this time. I can't truly pick out a place because I haven't looked at everything deep enough yet.

It's a very intriguing story because they're most likely other civilizations that existed on a more grander scale that haven't been found in my opinion. Oh well I won't give up just yet.

Edited by kampz, 06 December 2012 - 07:30 AM.

[kampz]

It's not fake to me! In my opinion there has to be something worth discovering in the sea floors of the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean sea, the Gulf of Mexico and all over the World. Atlantis can still be there.  There's no reason a civilized nation couldn't of existed on the opposite side of the Atlantic Ocean. It's in front of the Pillars of Hercules? Then there's the other guy saying opposite to the mouth of the Mediterranean Sea. I've had enough for one night.

Places near the entrance of the Mediterranean Sea seem to be a great spot to look. What if Atlantis was Rome or where Sicily lies. Somewhere next to Athens but West, South or Southwest. Megalithic Temples of Malta are pretty darn old. Then I could see Atlantis invading Western Europe and Northern Africa first. Atlantis losing to Athens doesn't seem possible but God knows how Atlantis lost. Then there capitol city is in engulfed by giant tsunamis created by giant earthqaukes. Add some erupting volcanoes too. That's ironic... Persia got stopped too. Alexander the Great and the Roman Empire got stopped as well. The Mongols and Timurids too. England and imperialism got stopped. It's not a coincidence at all.

Edited by kampz, 06 December 2012 - 09:30 AM.

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 06 December 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

It's not fake to me! In my opinion there has to be something worth discovering in the sea floors of the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean sea, the Gulf of Mexico and all over the World. Atlantis can still be there.  There's no reason a civilized nation couldn't of existed on the opposite side of the Atlantic Ocean. It's in front of the Pillars of Hercules? Then there's the other guy saying opposite to the mouth of the Mediterranean Sea. I've had enough for one night.

Places near the entrance of the Mediterranean Sea seem to be a great spot to look. What if Atlantis was Rome or where Sicily lies. Somewhere next to Athens but West, South or Southwest. Megalithic Temples of Malta are pretty darn old. Then I could see Atlantis invading Western Europe and Northern Africa first. Atlantis losing to Athens doesn't seem possible but God knows how Atlantis lost. Then there capitol city is in engulfed by giant tsunamis created by giant earthqaukes. Add some erupting volcanoes too. That's ironic... Persia got stopped too. Alexander the Great and the Roman Empire got stopped as well. The Mongols and Timurids too. England and imperialism got stopped. It's not a coincidence at all.

Which only means that it was described as being just on the outside of the Pillars of Hercules and not on the inside of them. So not Rome or Sicily or some other inner-Mediterranean location. And core samples, etc. have been taken from enough locations to determine that no such area ever had a sizeable enough island for humans to have lived on in the ancient past.

cormac

[Harte]

kampz, on 06 December 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Well you can't deny that Bimini road could of been made by Atlantis. I know there's no proof at least yet. Either way I want to know who did it.

Of course I can deny it.  I've denied it a hundred times.

The "road" is a natural beachrock formation.  The same types of beachrock formations can be seen on dry land - well away from today's oceans, all over the world.

So, nobody did it.

Harte

[kampz]

I see what you guys are saying.

Cormac that's true, but there is still a slim chance you could stretch it to the Americas. I doubt it. Rome and Sicily are bad choices. I agree. It's to close to Athens. There's a chance that whatever hit Atlantis should probably affected Athens too. Going back to the Tartessos, it could have something Atlantean about it since they spread all over the Mediterranean. Evidence should be spread all over. But I agree somewhere by the mouth of the Mediterranean seems like a good idea for there sunken/destroyed capital to be.

So Bimini road is 100% not involved with intelligence. There's not a 99.9% in there?

Forget Bimini road. I'm saying in the general area by Bimini road is a spot for Atlantis or another civilized civilization. Atlantis was hot. The eqautor is closer to the Caribbean and the surrounding areas more Southern then the mouth of the Mediterranean.

Where can you put giant tsunamis or hurricanes(since it sunk) so it doesn't effect Athens or people not involved with Atlantis?
Could a series of giant tsunamis be created out of nowhere or using earthquakes and single out the Atlantis capitol and surrounding Atlantean areas? If you disagree I'll bring up Bigfoot. Hurricanes show up in Spain too. There just isn't enough known about that time period or I haven't looked hard enough which I haven't.

Edited by kampz, 07 December 2012 - 01:54 AM.

[kampz]

They're Mayan ruins that are sunken. The Mayan were established at around 2000 BC to 250 AD. We're talking 9,600 BC now with Atlantis. The ocean level rose extremely high and it's happens in short periods of time. There's a great chance that it's sunken. So my idea of sunken ruins in the Caribbean isn't to far fetched. I wanted to add.

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 07 December 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I see what you guys are saying.

Cormac that's true, but there is still a slim chance you could stretch it to the Americas. I doubt it. Rome and Sicily are bad choices. I agree. It's to close to Athens. There's a chance that whatever hit Atlantis should probably affected Athens too. Going back to the Tartessos, it could have something Atlantean about it since they spread all over the Mediterranean. Evidence should be spread all over. But I agree somewhere by the mouth of the Mediterranean seems like a good idea for there sunken/destroyed capital to be.

So Bimini road is 100% not involved with intelligence. There's not a 99.9% in there?

Forget Bimini road. I'm saying in the general area by Bimini road is a spot for Atlantis or another civilized civilization. Atlantis was hot. The eqautor is closer to the Caribbean and the surrounding areas more Southern then the mouth of the Mediterranean.

Where can you put giant tsunamis or hurricanes(since it sunk) so it doesn't effect Athens or people not involved with Atlantis?
Could a series of giant tsunamis be created out of nowhere or using earthquakes and single out the Atlantis capitol and surrounding Atlantean areas? If you disagree I'll bring up Bigfoot. Hurricanes show up in Spain too. There just isn't enough known about that time period or I haven't looked hard enough which I haven't.

There's also a slim chance that Stargate SG-1 actually was a documentary. But I'm not going to bet on that idea either.

Not really, since there was no Tartessos during the timeframe of Plato's Atlantis c.9600 BC.

Atlantis was an allegory, meant to teach a lesson.

cormac

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 07 December 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

They're Mayan ruins that are sunken. The Mayan were established at around 2000 BC to 250 AD. We're talking 9,600 BC now with Atlantis. The ocean level rose extremely high and it's happens in short periods of time. There's a great chance that it's sunken. So my idea of sunken ruins in the Caribbean isn't to far fetched. I wanted to add.

Approximately 400 feet since the Last Glacial Maximum and we're still talking about a rise, on average, of no more than a few inches per year. This is not a flood by any stretch of the imagination.

cormac

[kampz]

cormac mac airt, on 07 December 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

There's also a slim chance that Stargate SG-1 actually was a documentary. But I'm not going to bet on that idea either.

Not really, since there was no Tartessos during the timeframe of Plato's Atlantis c.9600 BC.

Atlantis was an allegory, meant to teach a lesson.

cormac

Yeah and there's also a slim chance Atlantis existed. Maybe not exactly how Plato described though. But if there's no other civilizations that existed I'll be disappointed. There's a chance we already found it or evidence of it's existing and explained it in a different way. It could of never existed like you said too. Hopefully time will tell one day.

Yup the ocean level sure did raise a lot.

Edited by kampz, 07 December 2012 - 04:52 AM.

[cormac mac airt]

kampz, on 07 December 2012 - 04:48 AM, said:

Yeah and there's also a slim chance Atlantis existed. Maybe not exactly how Plato described though. But if there's no other civilizations that existed I'll be disappointed. There's a chance we already found it or evidence of it's existing and explained it in a different way. It could of never existed like you said too. Hopefully time will tell one day.

Yup the ocean level sure did raise a lot.

Not just "how" he described it, but not even "where" he described it. Anything else is a reinterpreted attempt to rationalize it into existance. That's not science, it's sci-fi.

cormac

[kampz]

People can't even agree on what Plato was trying to explain. I bet there was civilization at or around the mouth of the Mediterranean during 9,600 BC or whatever. I'm about to move onto the Money Pit in Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Atlantis is hurting my head. Thanks for your opinions.

Edited by kampz, 07 December 2012 - 05:07 AM.