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[Merged] Did we land on the moon?

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#1876    Czero 101

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:21 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...yet they decided to focus on low earth orbits and  practicing space station's maintenance since 80s,they knew it is almost impossible to send human in deeper space.they had been working on MARS-500 simulation program 2 years ago (total isolation of crew)...when it was asked the possibility to use it to send human to the mars , incharge of mission said "there is no such a program and equepments to achive this task"...at least they don't lie... if you ask NASA ...they are going tomorrow to the Mars,   though they can't even send men to the international space station  without help of russian SL-4 Soyuz rocket.

Please... make the stupid stop... :(





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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:21 AM

Rajeev, first you COMPLETELY IGNORE all the excellent explanations given to you about 'weightlessness', and then you add the following and complain about us?

I'll address your post's 'content', but this will probably be the last time if you do not debate in good faith.

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.
No, he hasn't, and it seems your opinion is not widely held.  If you are an expert in this field, can you please outline which of his claims is the most compelling.  I dearly, dearly hope that what you put in this post is not in order of your perceived importance.  If it is, you need to pick a hobby that you have some understanding of.

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USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...
That is completely incorrect.  Yes, they just got the first satellite up and the first person in orbit BY A VERY SHORT MARGIN.  However, their space program very obviously took huge risks and shortcuts to get where it was.  That FACT was very clearly demonstrated by the number of failed launches (both then and since, and many of which were covered up) and then was laid bare to the world when their attempt to engage in the race to the Moon simply fell apart, mostly because of the disastrous N-1 rocket which was their only viable method of getting such a mission aloft.

They LOST the race to the Moon.  They monitored the Apollo program carefully but were unable to learn enough to duplicate it.  They also monitored the actual missions and then congratulated the US on making it.  What is it about all that, that you missed?

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they knew it is almost impossible to send human in deeper space.
First up, I note you threw in the weasel word 'almost', and then changed to topic to 'deep space'.  Nice try, but obvious...  Anyway, BACK UP that statement.  SHOW where ANY Russian (or any other) reputable scientist has said that a MOON mission of Apollo duration was impossible.  We are NOT talking about a long, deep space mission, so don't try throwing in those weasel words to try to scam people.

Show the evidence that they thought APOLLO was impossible or WITHDRAW that claim.  If you do not, then you are clearly not debating in good faith.

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when it was asked the possibility to use it to send human to the mars , incharge of mission said "there is no such a program and equepments to achive this task"
As I stated above this thread is about the MOON missions - changing the topic is DECEPTIVE and you know it.  If not, then you clearly don't understand the IMMENSE difference between Lunar and Mars missions.  So which is it - are you being deceptive or do you simply not know much about space missions?  There's no shame in that - I know very little about quantum physics, which is why I don't post my ignorance on QP forums..

Anyway, CITE these statements you are quoting and let's look at them IN CONTEXT, shall we?

And then you can explain to everyone what you now understand by the term 'changing the goal posts'..

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:19 AM

My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 02:07 AM

View PostCzero 101, on 27 April 2013 - 05:21 AM, said:

Please... make the stupid stop... :(

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:34 AM

View Postturbonium, on 20 April 2013 - 03:54 AM, said:

Nor do trolls.

If i'm correct, this is your last post. What should we address here?


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

I hear ya Czero101 ! But its fun to read how peopl can be so crazy on a subject like the Moon Landings,Knowing good and well we did Go ,We did land,We did come back,with factual proof,ROCKS, Photos,Dirt ! ITs all in the Dirt !
Where could one go so far off base to believe otherwise?
Oh !Oh! its the Drugs on earth that do that to these people ! No we know ! Remember that THe Secret Socities that are so Real and Secret are watching you every night ! THe Walls have eyes.
There that may keep some of them off the streets a bit ! :whistle:

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#1882    ChrLzs

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:21 PM

Rajeev, when will you be returning to properly address the topic of 'weightlessness' and to cite your claim that scientists said Apollo (NOT a 'deep space' mission) was not possible?

All my posts about Apollo are dedicated to the memory of MID - who knew, lived and was an integral part of, Apollo.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 02:57 AM

Heres a Greatr one ! :tu:

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Postturbonium, on 27 April 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..

Your points were answered and sufficiently explained five years ago. you have not added anything beyond silly repetitions since then...
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Edited by rambaldi, 30 April 2013 - 01:27 PM.


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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:30 PM

View Postturbonium, on 27 April 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..

I'm convinced that a lot of things speak to you.

"For me, it is better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ..

As it has been repeatedly explained, no they were not, they even had to cheat during Gagarin's landing.

Of course if you would like to finally enter a meaningful discussion (not that i expect that of you)  you could try to explain what advantages the Soviets had after Gemini...


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:57 AM

View Postrambaldi, on 30 April 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

As it has been repeatedly explained, no they were not, they even had to cheat during Gagarin's landing.

Of course if you would like to finally enter a meaningful discussion (not that i expect that of you)  you could try to explain what advantages the Soviets had after Gemini...

(tumbleweeds roll by....)


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:00 AM

View PostObviousman, on 01 May 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

(tumbleweeds roll by....)

He must be having "internet connection problems" again... *WINK WINK*


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostCzero 101, on 01 May 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

He must be having "internet connection problems" again... *WINK WINK*


Must be the CIA, FBI, NSA, NASA, CSI, NCIS, CBI, NWO, SGC, SD6, CTU, MI6, CI5, BND, BMW, MOSSAD, KGB, GRU, SMERSH, SPECTRE and probably the Lords Varys and Baelish, who all conspire to prevent him from finally delivering actual proof.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:13 AM

View Postrajeev shagun, on 27 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...

Then, why did they lose the race with the United States to send a man to the moon? The Russians didn't have the technology to send a man to the moon.

KEEP YOUR MACH UP AND CHECK SIX