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#601    monk 56

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:30 PM

Obviously Oak Ridge Cemetery dedication relates to 24th May 1860 at location, ancient Greek day marker on day as shown with above links!....Alnilam sets  with Sun at location on actual day!

However Midnight day marker shown on dedication of Lincoln Tomb, noted as 15th October 1874 on link below, look for "11":-

http://quod.lib.umic...n;view=fulltext

It must be noted on 15th October 1874 at location Sirius was rising using midnight day marker, graphs below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7201&mode=view


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:45 PM

Obelisk regarding Lincoln Tomb below:-



The reason that Lincoln Statue Nose is golden, is by superstitious people rubbing it for luck!


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 07:15 PM

It must be noted that John Wilkes Booth's favourite role was "BRUTUS", under Theatrical Career headline below:-

http://en.wikipedia....hn_Wilkes_Booth

Ancient Greek day marker applied to original Brutus/Caesar Assassination below being 15th March 0044BC, the Ides of March:-

http://en.wikipedia....semper_tyrannis

Sunset previous applies on astronomy graph below, as Sun set SIRIUS was in middle of sky at location of Rome!

http://2012forum.com...=3844&mode=view

Obviously John Wilkes Booth only found out that President Lincoln would be in Ford's Theatre Earlier in the day of 14th April 1865, being Good Friday, it is highly possible he saw connection in symbolism, the Romans killed both Julius Caesar and Jesus!


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 07:19 PM

View Postmonk 56, on 19 June 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

Obviously with history and astronomy, few know how i play yet!

Please note "Monk's" try to record history accurately, thats my job...any wanna mess yet?

Lots to come, i'm waiting?

However please note i don't understand synchronicity, as a recorder of history, there is something missing that i don't fully understand....

Perhaps God Thing?

http://en.wikipedia....i/Synchronicity

I'm waiting!

Using the hammer of conjecture with the crowbar of supposition to try to make history fit your hypothesis is not, nor can it be construed in any way as recording history, much less recording history accurately.  A hypothesis that has had no evidence supplied to support it is nothing more than belief and to present it as more than that does not in any way validate it.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
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Posted 19 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

I'm finished with United States for a while, i'll move on to United Kingdom, tomorrow we will look at this, however please note United Kingdom is slightly different to the many constitutions i show in this thread:-

So you understand me, i show link beforehand:-

http://en.wikipedia....ain_and_Ireland

You can guess what i will show regarding accurate astronomy, sunrise, sunset or midnight at location!

Edited by monk 56, 19 June 2013 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:51 AM

Sometimes members must note difference between Gregorian Calendar and Julian Calendar, they are the same, only difference is a leap year at the end of a century in a period of 400 years, the Gregorian Calendar has 3 less leap year dates over 400 years that come into play at end of century.

The revised calendar was put up for adoption in Rome in 1582, the difference being 1600 would be a leap year, 1700, 1800, and 1900 are not leap years but 2000 was!

The difference with Julian Calendar is every four years is a leap year, even at end of century.

England didn't adopt the Gregorian Calendar until 1752, astronomy programmes use 1582, so we need to add days to bring into synch with what an astronomy programme can tell us!

In 1582 the difference was 10 days, yet after 1700 the difference was 11 days!

So firstly i'm looking at the joining of Scotland and England that took effect on 1st May 1707, please note i have to add 11 days to bring in synch with astronomy programmes that follow Gregorian dates after 1582, so we must look at 12th May 1707 for alignments, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....s_of_Union_1707

The Scottish Parliament was in Edinburgh:-

http://en.wikipedia....ent_of_Scotland

So after adding 11 days to 1st May 1707, we would expect to see an alignment either in London or Edinburgh.

It was shown in Edinburgh, the Sun set on the Scottish Parliament using Gregorian Calendar on 12th May 1707, Sun set with Alnilam, Belt of Orion at location, i will show astronomy graph on next thread section.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:21 AM

U.K. started using Gregorian Calendar in 1752, so we don't have a problem adding days to 1st January 1801, being when Britain and Ireland joined in union to become United Kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia....ain_and_Ireland

On 1st January 1801, using midnight day marker, Sirius was culminating in the middle of the sky over the Palace of Westminster, London, astronomy graphs for last two thread sections can be seen below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7202&mode=view


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:45 AM

Obviously when two Calendars are in place in different parts of Europe in history, this can be difficult for the general reader to understand these differences, i fully understand, perhaps link below can help you to understand me:-

http://www.cslib.org...endarChange.htm


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 09:55 AM

After nearly 300 years, Scotland managed to get its parliament back although this is only a partial separation from the Palace of Westminster, as shown below:-

http://www.scottish....earn/25488.aspx

This historic event regarding partial separation happened on 1st July 1999, as shown on video below:-



The event happened in Edinburgh, however it was recorded in the stars at location of Westminster, London, they used midnight day marker for 1st July 1999, while Alnilam, Belt of Orion was aligned to the NADIR, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7204&mode=view

Edited by monk 56, 22 June 2013 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

I thought the ancient Statute of Rhuddlan would interest with joining Wales to the English Crown:-

http://en.wikipedia....ute_of_Rhuddlan

This happened with promulgation on 19th March 1284 at Rhuddlan Castle, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Rhuddlan_Castle

At Rhuddlan castle location on 19th March 1284, as Sun rose, Sirius was on the NADIR, being due North in Northern Hemisphere, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7203&mode=view


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 09:23 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 19 June 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Using the hammer of conjecture with the crowbar of supposition to try to make history fit your hypothesis is not, nor can it be construed in any way as recording history, much less recording history accurately.  A hypothesis that has had no evidence supplied to support it is nothing more than belief and to present it as more than that does not in any way validate it.

You can see just how much monk is interested in discussing anything, and how interested he is formulating a coherent theory to explain his "observations". He's obviously confused this forum for his own personal blog.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:49 AM

In astrology there are four special points....by longitude the Midheaven (M.C. or Medium Coeli) becomes important when a star is within one degree of it, this point is found in astronomy by drawing a line up from Due South in the Northern Hemisphereto the point of overhead, in the Southern Hemisphere the same applies but the line is up from Due North.

Explanation of the Midheaven can be seen on links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midheaven

So if we were looking for the midnight culmination of Sirius on the Prime Meridian, meaning the highest point that the star reaches in the sky using the midnight day marker, this only happens once in a year, being midnight on 1st January.

A famous astronomer Jack Horkheimer explains how he was astonished to find the calendar star of the start of the Egyptian Calendar was aligned to New Year of the Gregorian Calendar, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Jack_Horkheimer

http://2012forum.com...=4550&mode=view

You can find comments by scrolling down link below to 12/26/2005:-

http://www.jackstarg...ts_dec2005.html

The Imum Coeli (I.C. or Nadir) is opposite to the midheaven as explained below:-

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Imum_Coeli

I'll explain the point of latitude next.

Edited by monk 56, 29 June 2013 - 07:53 AM.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:32 AM

By Latitude we have another important point called the Ascendant, where the Sun rises along the horizon in a easterly direction, which at location is explained below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant

Please note that meaning given is for birth chart analysis and meaning is completely different for political astrology called Mundane Astrology.    As i'm explaining about Sun Worship i'm only interested in when the Sun rises or sets.

The opposite to the Ascendant is the Descendant, where the Sun sets along the horizon in a westerly direction at location, that should be obvious!

These are the four points that astrology conscious secret societies use in intentional astrology at locations, this is called Electional Astrology.    They day mark the event at Egyptian Sunrise Day Marker, ancient Greek Sunset day marker, or the much later Midnight day marker that was added as the minute hand of the clock was invented!

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10705808

Obviously there are three day starts to four directions as explained previously, so there are four directions to midnight day marker, four directions to Sunrise day marker and four directions to Sunset day marker.   Secret Societies align to two stars being Sirius, the Isis Star and Alnilam, Belt of Orion being Osiris Star.

These type of beliefs are related to Hermeticism, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....thought_systems

There are many beliefs attached to Sirius, Albert Pike noted it was the Blazing Star of Masonic Lodges in his book "Morals and Dogma".

Obviously some of the beliefs that secret societies hold about the origin of Sun and Sirius worship aren't true and must be valued as pseudoscience, however this has effected dates chosen in history by intentional alignments to important buildings, military, constitutions, war, terrorism and assassinations, i'll finish explanation on next thread section.

http://www.harrypott...sforseekers.php


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 09:11 AM

So to recap, secret societies use Sunrise, Sunset or Midnight to choose a day for important events, but also look to align Sirius or Alnilam, Belt of Orion on one of the four directions at location of event.

This means for Sirius there are 12 permutations in a year, being 3 day starts to 4 directions, the same applies to Alnilam Belt of Orion, this makes 24 days that this would be possible in a year of 365 days, however in practice this is inaccurate as in any location you get at least a double up twice on the same day between Sirius and Alnilam and in the modern world in a lot of locations we lose a midnight alignment due to Summer Time Application.

So the average is 21 alignments in a year of 365 days using a margin of 1 degree that is equal to 4 minutes of time.   1 degree is standard for astrologers to use on fixed stars!   The reason for this is the apparent motions of the Sun.

During the year the Earth moves around the Sun.  As a result the Sun appears to move around the sky once with respect to the stars as seen from Earth.  Earth takes about 365 and a quarter days to travel around the Sun.   Since the Earth moves around the Sun and we are resident on the Earth, it means that the Sun appears to shift in the sky about 1 degree per day, which is equal to 4 minutes of time.

Obviously understanding of Axial Precession is needed to fully understand my explanation, the odds of my research happening by coincidence is very small!


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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:01 AM

View Postmonk 56, on 29 June 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

So to recap, secret societies use Sunrise, Sunset or Midnight to choose a day for important events, but also look to align Sirius or Alnilam, Belt of Orion on one of the four directions at location of event.

Richard  C Hoagland mention the same thing basically long ago, but didnt limit the time.

Richard included explanations and mention other things as well such as 33 degrees and
19.5 (19.47) on  some his web pages and video.
heres 1 page -   http://www.enterpris...coincidence.htm

on a personal note, i think the secret societies are clueless :)

Edited by samspade, 30 June 2013 - 09:46 AM.






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