2012/ Phantom Time/ Shadow Elite Explanation

[h3lpm3pl3as3]

Hello Forum.... I’m new here. I have read a lot of the discussions and threads on this site and decided I wanted to join and voice my opinions and ideas about some of them. I Admire this forum to others because of the variety of threads and what I have read here, A lot of places on the internet are carbon copies of each other but I enjoy this site because it has more of a thought-variety and the layout is cool yet simple. I have researched plenty of conspiracies over the course of a few years and discovered a lot of knowledge, ideas and theories. I have decided to take some of my thoughts here to the Unexplained Mystery Forum... So Yea.

I have read and watched a lot of the Media surrounding the end of the world; 2012 and Mayan prophecies along with the biblical hype around it. I looked into it and the Mayan Calendar does suggest the date and has a clear prophetic apocalypse planned out for December 2012. Among that I have read a lot of articles on the phantom-time-hypothesis and looked in-to other cultural prophecies. To me 2012 has been over-exaggerated and hyped on one end, with all the Media-coverage, Books, Hollywood movies, Youtube-videos and religious fanaticism. Similar to Y2K and a lot of cult-related propaganda (i.e. peoples temple, scientology, etc) 2012 has been a huge profit for many people and a fascinating idea to think about and embrace.

On the other end 2012AD is realistic and the end-of-the-world seems like it could be coming. Considering the last few off-the-meter-earth-quakes around the world from Asia to the Caribbean, the global-warming/cooling, the progressive solar storms, the many man-made wars of late, our dropping-economy, the third-world famine and the many Illuminus Agenda's. The earth-quakes and global cooling/warming is just the Earth going thru its dated-cycles and possibly it could be preparing it self for a reconstruction of sorts and our end as a species could happen just like the Dinosaurs. The Earth could be tired with us and cleanse it of our controversial human nature. The Ice-Age was like a cocoon for Humanity. The next global-cocoon will be harvesting a new-species-dominancy to evolve. But enough of this.... Lets get to the Human-Agenda of things.

Most likely with the all middle-eastern wars and east-European communism disputes a WW3 is definitely more possible now then it was ten or twenty years ago. But there is always going to be Wars we know or don’t know about. WW3 could be prevented but it seems we have a organized-ignorant approach as a Democracy against terrorism and communism. Bush Senior. planted the seeds with the Golf and Desert Storm wars and Bush Jr. continued with the war on Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan no weapons were fount and 9/11 has become known as a inside-job. Something is going on that no one but the Illuminus know about. Oil is too petty to be the real reasons for a decade our Military has wasted in the Middle East. Obama is finishing out what Bush Jr left for him and believe me all politicians are on the same team. The Illuminis Agenda has been in effect for over 200 years and will remain to be.

Only within recent years the conspiracies have gotten more talked about by word of mouth and thru the internet and so many movies have been made concerning them. To me the over-hyped 2012-idea has been put out there and instigated as a diversion from thinking forward. What could happen in to 2013 or 2014... Keep in mind that Hollywood has allowed us to enjoy illuminati and 2012 themed movies (angels and demons, from hell, v for vendetta and countless end of the world movies). So if Hollywood is part of the Illuminati-Media-Pyramid then why would they put stuff like that out here. To tell everybody they exist and that the end of the world is soon... Even thou there a secret society? Its just a diversion of thought. Something to keep people talking about because 2013 and beyond is unfathomable as it seems they want it. So what could be planned for the beyond. A thankful society resuming a stress-free life knowing 2012 didn’t happen. 1999 was a whole year of paranoia concerning Y2K and the year 2000. What happened afterwards... In 2001 the towers fall and a new decade of war and recession. Its been quite a few years of Paranoia concerning 2012. So what’s after that I question... Only time will tell…

Concerning 2012 AD as a date and year is one thing. Saying its the year the world will end is a one-sided opinion... a western one. Only western-society is concerned that its the end of the world because of our Gregorian calendar and the Mayan prophecies. But before I go in to anything else, look at our Calendar. We go by the 12-month 365 day Gregorian calendar instilled by Pope Gregory the XIII about 500 or so years ago. Before The Pope created his calendar the Roman Julian Calendar of Caesar was used through Europe, its colonies and parts of Russia. So if In Eastern Chinese Culture its the year 4708 of the Rabbit and in middle-east Muslim culture its the year 1432 AH. Currently its the Hebrew year 5771 and in certain isolated indigenous parts of the world only night and day is relevant while the Persian Calendar says 1390. There’s Certain Solar, Lunar, Tropical calendars and so on. Measuring Time is a man-made principle in order to chronicle events, births and deaths thru history and to help premeditate the future. The concept, idea and theory of 2012 AD was mad by taking the inactive Mayan Calendar and cross-analyzing it to our own Gregorian Calendar while embracing there prophecies.

I don’t believe God has his clock set or calendar marked for the end of the world. I don’t believe the end of the world is in 2012. I believe the end will come when no man expects it. There could be a certain chance all of this is wrong and there could also be a chance its not. I looked at 2012 as a whole, what surrounds it and its possibilities. Our planet could definitely be preparing for a cleansing, the Illuminus could be leading us on in to a darker age as they have and will do, The Solar Storms and space is a variable Humanity cant control and War is happening and waiting to get worse. All of this is true but also it all has the chance of not happening as well… So what could be happening. Could it be a domino effect of things that all will coincide during 2012 or could it be string of possible revelations with the actual most likely one tucked away under propaganda and media. If anybody has questions, ideas, contradictions or anything to add to this, please post….

Thanks for reading

By the way check out this Youtube video I fount. It’s a awesome end-of-the-world themed rap song with a sick message…

[TheSearcher]

Hello Forum.... I’m new here. I have read a lot of the discussions and threads on this site and decided I wanted to join and voice my opinions and ideas about some of them. I Admire this forum to others because of the variety of threads and what I have read here, A lot of places on the internet are carbon copies of each other but I enjoy this site because it has more of a thought-variety and the layout is cool yet simple. I have researched plenty of conspiracies over the course of a few years and discovered a lot of knowledge, ideas and theories. I have decided to take some of my thoughts here to the Unexplained Mystery Forum... So Yea.

Welcome to the posting part of the forum. Hope you enjoy your time here.

I have read and watched a lot of the Media surrounding the end of the world; 2012 and Mayan prophecies along with the biblical hype around it. I looked into it and the Mayan Calendar does suggest the date and has a clear prophetic apocalypse planned out for December 2012. Among that I have read a lot of articles on the phantom-time-hypothesis and looked in-to other cultural prophecies. To me 2012 has been over-exaggerated and hyped on one end, with all the Media-coverage, Books, Hollywood movies, Youtube-videos and religious fanaticism. Similar to Y2K and a lot of cult-related propaganda (i.e. peoples temple, scientology, etc) 2012 has been a huge profit for many people and a fascinating idea to think about and embrace.

Actually I have to stop you right there. The Mayan Calandar does not suggest the date as such and does most certainly not contain a prophecy about the end of the world in 2012. Find here a good explanation to the Mayan Calendar and why there is no clear dating of 2012 and find here, why saying there is a prophecy is a fallacy. I give the links with the explanation, because top be honest, I'm a bit tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

I understand that you believe that 2012 is a load of BS, but getting the facts right is important. You should know why it's a load of BS.

As to the Phantom Time Hypothesis, you do realise that there are enough dating methods which contradict the theory? For example, observations in ancient astronomy agree with current observations with no 'phantom time' added. Like, the end of the Greco-Persian Wars was marked by two solar eclipses within a year and a half; the only possible dates are 2 October 480 BCE and 14 February 478 BCE.

Dating methods such as dendrochronology show that the current date is correct. Furthermore, written records from China's Tang Dynasty, Korea's North South States Period, India's Chalukya and Chola Empires and the Rashidun Caliphate in Asia Minor coincide with the proposed missing years.

Just so you know.

And yes I also consider this 2012 BS a money cow for certain people, they con the gullible and create a panic.

On the other end 2012AD is realistic and the end-of-the-world seems like it could be coming. Considering the last few off-the-meter-earth-quakes around the world from Asia to the Caribbean, the global-warming/cooling, the progressive solar storms, the many man-made wars of late, our dropping-economy, the third-world famine and the many Illuminus Agenda's. The earth-quakes and global cooling/warming is just the Earth going thru its dated-cycles and possibly it could be preparing it self for a reconstruction of sorts and our end as a species could happen just like the Dinosaurs. The Earth could be tired with us and cleanse it of our controversial human nature. The Ice-Age was like a cocoon for Humanity. The next global-cocoon will be harvesting a new-species-dominancy to evolve. But enough of this.... Lets get to the Human-Agenda of things.

What are you talking about when you say 2012AD is a reality? Are you talking about Nostradamus and the link that some lay towards a wandering planet? Because if it's about Nibiru or Planet X or some other celestial body crashing into the earth, there are two sites you might want to peruse, this one and the NASA asteroid watch site, both make for good reading and set the ideas straight.

As to the earth wanting to cleanse us or not? Sorry I consider that metaphysical mambo jambo.

Most likely with the all middle-eastern wars and east-European communism disputes a WW3 is definitely more possible now then it was ten or twenty years ago. But there is always going to be Wars we know or don’t know about. WW3 could be prevented but it seems we have a organized-ignorant approach as a Democracy against terrorism and communism. Bush Senior. planted the seeds with the Golf and Desert Storm wars and Bush Jr. continued with the war on Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan no weapons were fount and 9/11 has become known as a inside-job. Something is going on that no one but the Illuminus know about. Oil is too petty to be the real reasons for a decade our Military has wasted in the Middle East. Obama is finishing out what Bush Jr left for him and believe me all politicians are on the same team. The Illuminis Agenda has been in effect for over 200 years and will remain to be.

East european communism disputes? Care to explain that one? WW3? Illuminis? Erm you wouldn't be meaning the Illuminati rather?

Only within recent years the conspiracies have gotten more talked about by word of mouth and thru the internet and so many movies have been made concerning them. To me the over-hyped 2012-idea has been put out there and instigated as a diversion from thinking forward. What could happen in to 2013 or 2014... Keep in mind that Hollywood has allowed us to enjoy illuminati and 2012 themed movies (angels and demons, from hell, v for vendetta and countless end of the world movies). So if Hollywood is part of the Illuminati-Media-Pyramid then why would they put stuff like that out here. To tell everybody they exist and that the end of the world is soon... Even thou there a secret society? Its just a diversion of thought. Something to keep people talking about because 2013 and beyond is unfathomable as it seems they want it. So what could be planned for the beyond. A thankful society resuming a stress-free life knowing 2012 didn’t happen. 1999 was a whole year of paranoia concerning Y2K and the year 2000. What happened afterwards... In 2001 the towers fall and a new decade of war and recession. Its been quite a few years of Paranoia concerning 2012. So what’s after that I question... Only time will tell…

Gods, why do people see conspiracies everywhere? Mate, there is one golden rule in human society, that you can always rely on, when it comes to politics and wars : Follow the money. Yes it's the baser instincts of lucre and greed.

Concerning 2012 AD as a date and year is one thing. Saying its the year the world will end is a one-sided opinion... a western one. Only western-society is concerned that its the end of the world because of our Gregorian calendar and the Mayan prophecies. But before I go in to anything else, look at our Calendar. We go by the 12-month 365 day Gregorian calendar instilled by Pope Gregory the XIII about 500 or so years ago. Before The Pope created his calendar the Roman Julian Calendar of Caesar was used through Europe, its colonies and parts of Russia. So if In Eastern Chinese Culture its the year 4708 of the Rabbit and in middle-east Muslim culture its the year 1432 AH. Currently its the Hebrew year 5771 and in certain isolated indigenous parts of the world only night and day is relevant while the Persian Calendar says 1390. There’s Certain Solar, Lunar, Tropical calendars and so on. Measuring Time is a man-made principle in order to chronicle events, births and deaths thru history and to help premeditate the future. The concept, idea and theory of 2012 AD was mad by taking the inactive Mayan Calendar and cross-analyzing it to our own Gregorian Calendar while embracing there prophecies.

If I read this correctly, I think we can agree on this.

I don’t believe God has his clock set or calendar marked for the end of the world. I don’t believe the end of the world is in 2012. I believe the end will come when no man expects it. There could be a certain chance all of this is wrong and there could also be a chance its not. I looked at 2012 as a whole, what surrounds it and its possibilities. Our planet could definitely be preparing for a cleansing, the Illuminus could be leading us on in to a darker age as they have and will do, The Solar Storms and space is a variable Humanity cant control and War is happening and waiting to get worse. All of this is true but also it all has the chance of not happening as well… So what could be happening. Could it be a domino effect of things that all will coincide during 2012 or could it be string of possible revelations with the actual most likely one tucked away under propaganda and media. If anybody has questions, ideas, contradictions or anything to add to this, please post….

Thanks for reading

The end will happen when it happens, no use to try and prepare oneself for something like that. Any theories about global conspiracies are just that, theories.

[SlimJim22]

Hello and welcome, I know not what to call ya brutha, h3plm shall do unless you prefer another handle. Fair dooze though blood you have a good feel of things and obviously a rational and intelligent mind. I agree with much of what you have said but I'll try and pick up a few points.

First thing is that the Mayans never said it is the end of the world, only it is the beginning of the 7th sun I think it is. They were incredible mathematicians and astronomers and their calendars are relatively accurate and meaningful. The calendar count ends on the winter solstice 2012 when the Grand Cross, Cosmic Tree or constellation Cygnus aligns with the Great Rift. When the sun rises in this position it is considered a triple sacred rebirth with a new day, year and great year. This is all pretty impressive stuff especially when you consider that Plato and other Greek philosophers had an awareness of the precessional cycle.

You mention solar storms and space weather and you are right to do so imo. We will hit the solar maximum in early 2013 before the cycle winds down again on it's 11 year course. Interesting that 11:11 has become so prominent in the collective consciousness and the winter solstice will occur at 11:11am, though I'm not sure what time zone that is on. I guess it is Mexico cos the important sites are Chichen Itza.

So we will have sever solar storms throwing elctromagnetic radiation at us. In the past rare cosmic rays from blazars and supernovas have caused great catatrophes but also mutations leading to increases in consciousness. Could this be happening again and it is all part of a cycle of progression?

So there probbaly will be even more disasters however it is not the end of the world or Armageddon or anything. That is all a plot to get us to fear and cower and allow the bad guys, you call them Illuminus but that is not right, to do as they please. The reason why they can show it on TV and movies is called the "Revelation of the method of making manifest what is hidden". It basically means that we make ourselves powerless through apathy, confusion, doubt and inaction.

The worst possibel scenario for us is if we and nations panic and wars become even more rife than they are now. If nuclear war occurs we will be screwed for an awful long time but if they are natural disasters then some will die, I don't like saying that humanity will be purified but there will be a minor bottleneck of sorts and many will die, few will survive but the ones that do may have new found abilities. Not like the Xmen but trough a new found understanding of light and love as being the way to connect with the absolute reality.

got to go... Welcome aboard the crazy train Hal

http://www.infinitelymystical.com/essays/2012-astronomy.html

[h3lpm3pl3as3]

-My reply to TheSearcher

I think im already enjoying my time... so much to read and think about. Ill check out the Mayan Calendar and analyze it with more detail… I didn’t really understand their form of days and weeks. Here’s a informative link with a list of calendars. http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

The Phantom Time Hypothesis has been contradicted but its fun to think about considering there’s so much history unaccounted for and so much history over-exaggerated. When I mentioned 2012 as a reality, I was referring to the end of the world being quite realistically possible with all the Wars and our planetary conditions. By the way ill check out the Nasa links, I didn’t know they had a site for that.

By Earth wanting to cleanse us, I was saying that the Earth goes thru cleansing periods. When it comes to the Dinosaurs I believe the Earth as a evolving and living environment has clean-up cycles… The Dinosaurs were a low-level intelligence and after whatever disaster which wiped them out whether a meteor or something global the earth went thru a cleansing period where it gave the chance for a new species to flourish…. The Mammals. I think Earth does this periodically, and Global Warming and Cooling could be a way of it preparing it self for a possible cleansing of sorts, lets say if Human-Extinction was to happen.

The earth went from Pangaea to what it is today over a few Eras of Millions of years, countless species have become extinct prior to Human-existence and a lot of them because of our Alpha-Male Barbaric Human-Existence… So the earth as a living and growing planet of life could just one geological-day go thru its phases of earth-quakes, hurricanes, changes of temperature, ice-ages and we most likely will not make it as and become another extinct species. This would allow the next species which could adapt and progress and become the dominant species like from the Dinosaur to the Human.

Besides the middle-eastern conflicts, in eastern-European countries like Romania and Ukraine there are harsh-communist living conditions where the echoes of the USSR still exist. People are locked away if they revolt and a lot of corrupt-politics go on. While the aftermath of the Bosnian Genocide and the race-wars with Serbians are looking not so nice currently.

Yea by Illuminis I mean Illuminati. That’s another way I like to refer to them… WW3 could happen if all enough allies and enemies choose sides and right now with the Middle East, Korea and the many other conflicts a WW3 is definitely possible. Yea I see a conspiracy everywhere if there’s enough unsaid. Money is the seed of all evil… people kill each other for some form of profit everyday. Yea a lot of theories are just theories but there’s so much out there that we cant just ignore.

-My Reply to SlimJim22

I like your Metaphysical View on things. The increases in consciousness I have noticed concerning the larger output of Energy-Ether. I agree with a lot that you said and I'm going to check out the link. I have noticed the decay in thought concerning the apathy humans have when it comes to asking the right questions and the doubt a lot of people have when the truth is handed to them. You made really good points about the End of the World. As it may be nuclear or solar; when or how ever it happens will result in a reconstruction of society and soul, with the chosen few having a super-conscious-evolution of perception and wisdom. Maybe a return to our un-materialistic archetypical state.

-By the way here's a cool site filled with Documentaries and Knowledge...

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/watch-online/

Thanks for your replies and input...

[SlimJim22]

Decent site. I've enjoyed the doc on Bruce Lee changed the world.

Something you may wish to explore or the noosphere. This theory may explain why the media seems so intent on drawing attention to 2012 and various disasters. A feedback loop of sorts is created so that events begin to manifest around our consciousness and there is a great increase in synchronicities related to what is going on. I call this the Quickening and it may be that you are experiencing more synchs. If so this is likely to steadily increase and it may support the noosphere theory. Some linkage:

http://www.lawoftime.org/noosphere/nooarticles/sriaurobindo.html

http://labyrinthofthepsychonaut.blogspot.com/

It could be about archetypes, resonances, symbols and incantations as much as is it is about democracy or oil. Of course I could be spieling BS but there are some fascinating theories beginning to emerge that offer a much more spiritually meaningful and insightful philosophy especially in the wake of the present difficulties. Have fun with it as much as you can for now and don't take this stuff too seriously because it is likley that Searcher is correct and nothing out of the ordinary has, is or will occur.