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#571    psyche101

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:37 AM

View Postbee, on 03 August 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

lol.....you know when someone is 'done for' .....well what I said was a colloquial way of saying that.

http://www.thefreedi...ry.com/done for

done for....(informal)...doomed to death or destruction

Perhaps then you meant to say "did it in for him" or similar?
So you do take a one liner anonymous source on the net as gospel, and then believe another Bob Lazar story. Yet the evil Government really stuffed up, didn't they? The only information that seems to exist is that which is the inflammatory part that allegedly had him locked up.

How can you seriously consider that the Government erased the man from record, but left the reason that they erased him from the record still standing? How does that make sense?

View Postbee, on 03 August 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

who knows what happened to him or where he is....not me. But he appears to be GONE.....one way or another....

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If he ever existed at all, it is just as possible the identity is made up. Seems rather suspect to me that the only record is a dubious alien claim left on the Internet, don't you think?

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:43 AM

View PostOccams Razor, on 06 August 2012 - 07:56 AM, said:

Same old same old, another 'Walter Mitty'.

This Maynard certainly seems to have much in common with that character. Many grandiose claims, but little proof of existence. I Sure hope we do not see Bob Lazars story rehashed on this claim.

View PostOccams Razor, on 06 August 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

Hear hear! Hardly "conclusive proof". Sadly this sort of thing is typical.

I am stunned people still keep trying to push the Ancient Aliens wheelbarrow. Why some are so keen to shoehorn ET into a story befuddles me. If it is there, it's there, if it is not, it's not.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:19 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 07 August 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Perhaps then you meant to say "did it in for him" or similar?

no...what I said was right....it was slang...anyone in Britain (or at least the Midlands)  would know what I meant..... :)



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How can you seriously consider that the Government erased the man from record, but left the reason that they erased him from the record still standing? How does that make sense?


Maybe what he had already written wasn't the reason he 'went away'......he could have written other stuff and was prevented from making it public?



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If he ever existed at all, it is just as possible the identity is made up. Seems rather suspect to me that the only record is a dubious alien claim left on the Internet, don't you think?

made up by who, though?


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 05:17 PM

View Postbee, on 07 August 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

no...what I said was right....it was slang...anyone in Britain (or at least the Midlands)  would know what I meant..... :)






Maybe what he had already written wasn't the reason he 'went away'......he could have written other stuff and was prevented from making it public?





made up by who, though?


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I agree with Psyche, I don't believe he ever existed.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:23 PM

John Maynard may be his real name, it's common place enough.  He may also have military experience as many have and do jo8in the military.  Anything above and beyond that may just be fluff to make him look more important.   The fact that he said the U.S. government had been tracking planet x (nibiru) since 1983 puts him squarely in the fringe and he may have taken on the persona he used so to speak to get his 15 minutes of fame.

If it's of interest to anyone, on The Chani Project Conspiracy Forum  http://thechaniproject.com/forum/index.php?topic=2437.0 ,   There is this post from January of this year concerning Mr Maynard:

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I've already tried to contact Dr Greer,The cseti website manager Debbie claims they lost contact with John some years ago,
She confirmed that he moved to Australia though which corroborates what Jacco Van der worp told me about a month ago.I imagine they do know where John is but won't divulge his location for obvious reasons.
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So perhaps his mysterious disappearance isn't so mysterious, just moving to another location.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 07 August 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

This Maynard certainly seems to have much in common with that character. Many grandiose claims, but little proof of existence. I Sure hope we do not see Bob Lazars story rehashed on this claim.



He would get the same treatment from the debunkers regardless, as all UFO witnesses do, so I just brush all that of.  Its standard operating procedure to make all UFO witnesses look like liars and loonies, but I ignore that because I know what the source of it is.  

All I can say about Maynard is I definitely believe he had military intelligence experience and that he has been gone since 2003, after disclosing certain information about the DIA and UFOs.  That's all I know for certain.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:34 PM

View PostMyles, on 07 August 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

I agree with Psyche, I don't believe he ever existed.

Yes, of course, but I would expect that.  Obviously he existed at some point, at least up to 2003, but I wonder whether he still exists.


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:38 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 07 August 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

John Maynard may be his real name, it's common place enough.  He may also have military experience as many have and do jo8in the military.  Anything above and beyond that may just be fluff to make him look more important.

So perhaps his mysterious disappearance isn't so mysterious, just moving to another location.


Yes, I've heard that too, that he decided to go to Australia and that he's living there will his girlfriend, and so on, but there's not the slightest bit of evidence for that.  No one has really heard from him in nearly ten years.

Every so often, someone pops up on the  Internet saying he's still around giving talks or that he went to Australia or wherever, but I don't think any of that is true.  Sooner or later when the subject of Maynard comes up, we will see one of these "gone to Australia" posts.  Where in Australia?  When did he go there?  under what circumstances?

I just plain don't believe that one, since there's zero proof for it.  Indeed, there's no proof that he is still alive and at liberty at all.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:34 AM

View Postbee, on 07 August 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

no...what I said was right....it was slang...anyone in Britain (or at least the Midlands)  would know what I meant..... :)

Me not being in Britain might explain that, here we would simply say "perhaps that is what did it in for him"

No need to get shirty, just because Sally Pearson from my home town took away some of your Gold last night Sheesh.

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View Postbee, on 07 August 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Maybe what he had already written wasn't the reason he 'went away'......he could have written other stuff and was prevented from making it public?

I still do not get it, they erase all records, including schooling, wiping his neighbours memories, etc but leave something he talks about the subject he is supposedly taken away for? Why make out he does not exist, and then leave something as easy to find as a quick Google? That makes no sense.

View Postbee, on 07 August 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

made up by who, though?.


You gave me the link Bee.


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Edited by psyche101, 08 August 2012 - 02:37 AM.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:39 AM

View PostQuaentum, on 07 August 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

John Maynard may be his real name, it's common place enough.  He may also have military experience as many have and do jo8in the military.  Anything above and beyond that may just be fluff to make him look more important.   The fact that he said the U.S. government had been tracking planet x (nibiru) since 1983 puts him squarely in the fringe and he may have taken on the persona he used so to speak to get his 15 minutes of fame.

If it's of interest to anyone, on The Chani Project Conspiracy Forum  http://thechaniproject.com/forum/index.php?topic=2437.0 ,   There is this post from January of this year concerning Mr Maynard:



So perhaps his mysterious disappearance isn't so mysterious, just moving to another location.


Alrighty then, Ill keep an eye out for him! ;)

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:43 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 07 August 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

He would get the same treatment from the debunkers regardless, as all UFO witnesses do, so I just brush all that of.  Its standard operating procedure to make all UFO witnesses look like liars and loonies, but I ignore that because I know what the source of it is.  

All I can say about Maynard is I definitely believe he had military intelligence experience and that he has been gone since 2003, after disclosing certain information about the DIA and UFOs.  That's all I know for certain.

It would not be hard to make him look bad, intertwining the Bible with UFo's does not strike me as a robust defence. His biblical claims just do not add a positive slant to his information. He also says that the Government has been hiding this since before the 1900's and I just do not see the evidence for that at all.
He does not seem to have much more than a finger to point at the Government?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:45 AM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 07 August 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Yes, of course, but I would expect that.  Obviously he existed at some point, at least up to 2003, but I wonder whether he still exists.

If he did, he certainly does not seem to have had too much of a high profile, do you know if his name surfaces in any significant documents along the way, or is his claim is stand alone?

I only suspect that he could be made up because his profile does not seem to be as high as one might imagine from the interview. There is no record, yet many others exist. If it is another Bob Lazar, sorry, I just do not believe that level of cover up is even humanly possible.

Edited by psyche101, 08 August 2012 - 02:46 AM.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:46 AM

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:47 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 08 August 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:

Me not being in Britain might explain that, here we would simply say "perhaps that is what did it in for him"

No need to get shirty, just because Sally Pearson from my home town took away some of your Gold last night Sheesh.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 07 August 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Obviously he existed at some point,.

I don't see it as obvious.

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