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Roswell was Soviet plot to create US panic


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#16    Paxus

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 12:48 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha classic - Thanks Persia!
What I want to know is what the skeptics think of this - it certainly would explain why so many witnesses claim to have seen a craft or bodies.
We're never going to hear the end of this 'Roswell Incident'.


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Posted 15 May 2011 - 01:27 PM

View PostHabitat, on 14 May 2011 - 07:38 AM, said:

Men come from Mars and women are from Venus, but surely this story comes from Uranus ?  :wacko:


Hahaha, that was funny.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:22 PM

View PostPaxus, on 15 May 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

Ha ha ha ha ha classic - Thanks Persia!
What I want to know is what the skeptics think of this - it certainly would explain why so many witnesses claim to have seen a craft or bodies.
We're never going to hear the end of this 'Roswell Incident'.
Well, surely you don't need to ask the Skeptics. Surely even the most enthusiastic Believer could only ROTF, L'ing, at the preposterousness of the whole idea.

Did, by the way, any witnesses who claimed to be on the spot at the time claim to see any bodies? or were they added as a colourful detail subsequently?

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:26 PM

View Post747400, on 15 May 2011 - 02:22 PM, said:

Well, surely you don't need to ask the Skeptics. Surely even the most enthusiastic Believer could only ROTF, L'ing, at the preposterousness of the whole idea.

Did, by the way, any witnesses who claimed to be on the spot at the time claim to see any bodies? or were they added as a colourful detail subsequently?
Yes, absolutely they did... one that springs to mind off the top of my head is a fire fighter that was 'on scene' - he said he saw 'aliens'. I think he even claimed that he felt the 'thought', 'You can't help me', as if the alien was communicating telepathically...

There was military - some guard who claimed he was allowed a peek...

Wasn't there a nurse too?

Edited by Paxus, 15 May 2011 - 02:27 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:41 PM

Hmmm, sounds like a Colourful Embellishment to me. I've always thought it'd be more likely that they'd use unmanned craft.

Actually, I've just realised that this story is actually a non-ET theory, isn't it, so by definition, according to some, it must be inherently more plausible than the ET explanation. You're right, it would be interesting to see the opinions of people who hold such a view.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:44 PM

All I can think of is some drunk soviets saying "ahahaha lets go prank the Americans and pretend to be Aliens" and then try and fly their makeshift UFO while under the influence and crashing.


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Posted 15 May 2011 - 02:53 PM

View PostPaxus, on 15 May 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

Yes, absolutely they did... one that springs to mind off the top of my head is a fire fighter that was 'on scene' - he said he saw 'aliens'. I think he even claimed that he felt the 'thought', 'You can't help me', as if the alien was communicating telepathically...

There was military - some guard who claimed he was allowed a peek...

Wasn't there a nurse too?


yes.....and the underlined....that 'being' in the Is It Real thread hasn't got any ears.... :huh:

if you communicated totally on the telepathic level you might not need ears...and you wouldn't need to

speak any of the many earth languages. Which could come in handy when captured by humans.... :o  ^_^


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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:07 PM

lol...funny stuff.  Maybe that's what "Skinny bob" is, a USSR hoax to frighten Americans during the cold war and they never got a chance to release the footage and someone happened to stumble across it recently...viral away!

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 03:42 AM

I guess it is possible, but I don't believe it!

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 01:19 AM

Oh darnit, I posted about my reactions to yesterday's Roswell news story on another related thread. http://www.unexplain...6

After all, the Cold War was all about the risk of a Soviet invasion equipped with military air weaponry and nuclear bombs. But to expect Roswell itself was a Soviet maneuver into our national air space to miss its target, what kind of explanation is that?  :unsure:

And someone mentioned the use of mutants, this is right out of the movie script of the upcoming X-Men: First Class.  B)

Edited by Makoto Jupiter, 25 May 2011 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 05:33 AM

View PostTheMcGuffin, on 15 May 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

My question about Roswell is whether all the witnesses are complete liars?  There are hundreds of civilian and military witnesses, and the only way to deny the whole story about some kind of weird thing crashing there is if all of them are 100% liars or 100% crazy.

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How can there be hundreds of witnesses?

And do you mean still alive, or dead?

This would mean that the people saying this was a mundane incident blown out of proportion would then have to be liars, so what would make the pro crowd more believable? Are not most of those testimonies that contradict in depth investigation merely fleeting instances?

I personally believe the Roswell incident has contributed to the mockery of UFOlogy as a whole more than any other investigation due to the credulous nature of the ever expanding tale.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 04:38 PM

View PostTaut, on 14 May 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

You go, Habitat....LMAO.  Guess the new book just ignores all the statements of Marcel to Stanton Friedman and hundreds of corroborating stories. Disinformation is a powerful tool. Too work this hard, on multiple levels to discredit the incident, and keep doing it for this long, only lends more credence to the original stories.  Right on 747400!

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:16 AM

It might be possible but if they were trying to scare Americans why crash in the middle of no where? If it were the Soviets they would probably done that in Washington, DC or a populated area the whole thing just doesn't make any sense.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:27 AM

View PostEmperor470, on 27 May 2011 - 03:16 AM, said:

It might be possible but if they were trying to scare Americans why crash in the middle of no where? If it were the Soviets they would probably done that in Washington, DC or a populated area the whole thing just doesn't make any sense.


The crash was close to Roswell Army Airfield, where the worlds only nuclear capable bomber group resided. It was also close to Project MOGUL operations, which spied on the Soviets.

Not advocating the theory, but there is a couple reasons.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:29 AM

View PostPaxus, on 15 May 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

Yes, absolutely they did... one that springs to mind off the top of my head is a fire fighter that was 'on scene' - he said he saw 'aliens'. I think he even claimed that he felt the 'thought', 'You can't help me', as if the alien was communicating telepathically...

There was military - some guard who claimed he was allowed a peek...

Wasn't there a nurse too?


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