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#16    Quaentum

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:40 PM

To the OP:

A big example of the fraudulent nature of Billy Meier's the supposed Pleiadian beam ships wouldn't exist since the Pleiades are too young to support life much less intelligent life that can travel through space.  Also if you do just a bit of research, the pictures of the Pleiadian women are actually pictures of singers from the old Dean Martin show.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:59 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 13 February 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

To the OP:

A big example of the fraudulent nature of Billy Meier's the supposed Pleiadian beam ships wouldn't exist since the Pleiades are too young to support life much less intelligent life that can travel through space.  Also if you do just a bit of research, the pictures of the Pleiadian women are actually pictures of singers from the old Dean Martin show.
Much studying of the Billy Meier case would help you to truly discover where the Plejaren come from and why there are no definite real pictures of them. This truth is up to you to find. One thing that is for certain, Billy Meier is not a leader of some cult or religion, for this would be against all that has been brought to the public by him.
Below is a link to of the predictions wrote about by Billy Meier decades ago, that now are becoming surprisingly accurate, about recent Russian troop movements:

http://theyflyblog.com/

And also here is an original feature film explaining more details about the case, there is a moment at 42:00 that Billy shows them how he prepares for a 'contact' with the extraterrestrials each time, also throughout the film there are computer analyses of beam ship craft and about three-quarters of the way through analyses of sounds of beamships recorded by Meier, there is even a portion around 59:10  that Billy Meier takes a lie detector test with results at about 1:00:00. This is a film about a group of investigators who attempt to discover the whole truth about the Billy Meier case, one of the investigators is Wendell Stevens, it is a bit long, but well worth watching if you are completely skeptical about the truth about this.

https://www.google.c....43148975,d.aWc

If you have trouble with that link, here is another place to search on youtube:


CONTACT - UFO Incredible Investigation Documentary of Eduard Meiers Experien

Edited by acriasis, 02 March 2013 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

View Postacriasis, on 02 March 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Much studying of the Billy Meier case would help you to truly discover where the Plejaren come from and why there are no definite real pictures of them. This truth is up to you to find. One thing that is for certain, Billy Meier is not a leader of some cult or religion, for this would be against all that has been brought to the public by him.
Below is a link to of the predictions wrote about by Billy Meier decades ago, that now are becoming surprisingly accurate, about recent Russian troop movements:

http://theyflyblog.com/

And also here is an original feature film explaining more details about the case, there is a moment at 42:00 that Billy shows them how he prepares for a 'contact' with the extraterrestrials each time, also throughout the film there are computer analyses of beam ship craft and about three-quarters of the way through analyses of sounds of beamships recorded by Meier, there is even a portion around 59:10  that Billy Meier takes a lie detector test with results at about 1:00:00. This is a film about a group of investigators who attempt to discover the whole truth about the Billy Meier case, one of the investigators is Wendell Stevens, it is a bit long, but well worth watching if you are completely skeptical about the truth about this.

https://www.google.c....43148975,d.aWc

If you have trouble with that link, here is another place to search on youtube:


CONTACT - UFO Incredible Investigation Documentary of Eduard Meiers Experien

No he wasn't the leader of a cult but he was a con man and in it for the fame and money.

Without going over all his supposed information we will pick one as an example.  Supposedly his 31'st contact in 1975, he was told that Mt Chimborazo, not Mt Everest was higher above sea level. Mt Chimborazo is 20,500 ft above sea level and Mt Everest is 29,000 ft above sea level, clearly showing the information he supposedly got from aliens to be wrong.  In fact Mt Chimborazo does not even make it onto the list of the highest mountains above sea level  http://en.wikipedia....ghest_mountains

As far as his prophecies we'll show one and it will put the others in context:

He prophesied that world war 3 would start in 2006.  When it didn't happen he changed it to 2008 abnd when it didn't happen again he said it would start in 2011.  Now tell me how world war 3 is going where you live?

As far as the video I will have to view it at a later date before I can make a comment.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:42 PM

All you really need to see is the movies of Meier's "flying saucers" which are clearly models swinging back and forth from short strings tied to something just above the frame. These movies are by far the worst hoaxes in the history of UFOlogy. The flying saucer in "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is more realistic.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

View Postscowl, on 05 March 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

All you really need to see is the movies of Meier's "flying saucers" which are clearly models swinging back and forth from short strings tied to something just above the frame. These movies are by far the worst hoaxes in the history of UFOlogy. The flying saucer in "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is more realistic.

That movie (plan 9) is evidently in the public domain and can be watched online here   http://archive.org/d...uter_Space_1959

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I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:10 AM

And these things are exactly what 'the controllers' want (whatever or whomever that is) to disguise and discredit the truth in every way possible, even falsifying true evidence with fake evidence so the people will consider all actual truth a hoax, so that control is not lost over the people and money is still to be made into the wallets of the deceivers. It is surprising that there would even be one single original film or photo of Billy Meier left that is not a third, fourth,  fifth or sixth generation photo, which he had unfortunately had to take to local developing shops to develop the film. In these shops is where the controllers got hold of the original negatives through sums of money so that slight alterations could be made to the film. There are some photos that even Billy did not notice the changes until months even years later. :td:On another note about Mt. Chimborazo according to true logic is as follows..." Starting from the center of the planet ,which never changes because planetary shapes are not perfectly round but more elliptical in shape, using this ellipse the diameter of the Earth is enlarged which comes down to The Andes in South America. The tallest of these mountains is Mt. Chimborazo in Ecuador. Due to the the elliptical shape of the Earth and distance to the top of Mt. Chimborazo from the center of the planet, not above sea level ,this makes Mt. Chimborazo the tallest mountain on Earth by about 2,150 meters more than Mt Everest"  This bit of information was supplied to Billy Meier by the extraterrestrials called the Plejaren that he has been in contact with. By far Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain above sea level, but if you had an imaginary line drawn from the center of the Earth  to both mountains (Mt. Chimborazo, Mt. Everest) logically speaking Mt. Chimborazo would be the tallest due to the elliptical shape of our planet. If the Billy Meier contact report is needed to verify this I will find it and copy/paste it here shouldn't take too long :yes:


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:23 PM

View Postacriasis, on 06 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

And these things are exactly what 'the controllers' want (whatever or whomever that is) to disguise and discredit the truth in every way possible, even falsifying true evidence with fake evidence so the people will consider all actual truth a hoax, so that control is not lost over the people and money is still to be made into the wallets of the deceivers. It is surprising that there would even be one single original film or photo of Billy Meier left that is not a third, fourth,  fifth or sixth generation photo, which he had unfortunately had to take to local developing shops to develop the film. In these shops is where the controllers got hold of the original negatives through sums of money so that slight alterations could be made to the film. There are some photos that even Billy did not notice the changes until months even years later. :td:
So it was the stores who made the fake photos, and not Billy, even though they are on his site? You are a gullible one.

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On another note about Mt. Chimborazo according to true logic is as follows..." Starting from the center of the planet ,which never changes because planetary shapes are not perfectly round but more elliptical in shape, using this ellipse the diameter of the Earth is enlarged which comes down to The Andes in South America. The tallest of these mountains is Mt. Chimborazo in Ecuador. Due to the the elliptical shape of the Earth and distance to the top of Mt. Chimborazo from the center of the planet, not above sea level ,this makes Mt. Chimborazo the tallest mountain on Earth by about 2,150 meters more than Mt Everest"  This bit of information was supplied to Billy Meier by the extraterrestrials called the Plejaren that he has been in contact with. By far Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain above sea level, but if you had an imaginary line drawn from the center of the Earth  to both mountains (Mt. Chimborazo, Mt. Everest) logically speaking Mt. Chimborazo would be the tallest due to the elliptical shape of our planet. If the Billy Meier contact report is needed to verify this I will find it and copy/paste it here shouldn't take too long :yes:
2,150 is incorrect, it is clear Billy got his information from E. Michael Gaposchkin and not aliens.

http://www.iigwest.o...#16_31stcontact


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:45 PM

View Postacriasis, on 06 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

And these things are exactly what 'the controllers' want (whatever or whomever that is) to disguise and discredit the truth in every way possible, even falsifying true evidence with fake evidence so the people will consider all actual truth a hoax, so that control is not lost over the people and money is still to be made into the wallets of the deceivers. It is surprising that there would even be one single original film or photo of Billy Meier left that is not a third, fourth,  fifth or sixth generation photo, which he had unfortunately had to take to local developing shops to develop the film. In these shops is where the controllers got hold of the original negatives through sums of money so that slight alterations could be made to the film.

But there are still Billy's movies of obviously small UFO models swinging back and forth on short strings.

He didn't need anyone's assistance in looking like a crackpot.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

View Postacriasis, on 06 March 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

And these things are exactly what 'the controllers' want (whatever or whomever that is) to disguise and discredit the truth in every way possible, even falsifying true evidence with fake evidence so the people will consider all actual truth a hoax, so that control is not lost over the people and money is still to be made into the wallets of the deceivers. It is surprising that there would even be one single original film or photo of Billy Meier left that is not a third, fourth,  fifth or sixth generation photo, which he had unfortunately had to take to local developing shops to develop the film. In these shops is where the controllers got hold of the original negatives through sums of money so that slight alterations could be made to the film. There are some photos that even Billy did not notice the changes until months even years later. :td:


So Billy gets the photos from the shops and shows them to people but in looking at them so soon after the incidents, when the event is fresh in his mind he does not notice the changes.  No it takes months and years to notice the changes yet he still uses the now altered photos on his site and in his talks and doesn't mention anything about them being tampered with.  he presents them as real and valid.  Your use of :td:  is applicable to that part of your post.

acriasis said:

On another note about Mt. Chimborazo according to true logic is as follows..." Starting from the center of the planet ,which never changes because planetary shapes are not perfectly round but more elliptical in shape, using this ellipse the diameter of the Earth is enlarged which comes down to The Andes in South America. The tallest of these mountains is Mt. Chimborazo in Ecuador. Due to the the elliptical shape of the Earth and distance to the top of Mt. Chimborazo from the center of the planet, not above sea level ,this makes Mt. Chimborazo the tallest mountain on Earth by about 2,150 meters more than Mt Everest"  This bit of information was supplied to Billy Meier by the extraterrestrials called the Plejaren that he has been in contact with. By far Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain above sea level, but if you had an imaginary line drawn from the center of the Earth  to both mountains (Mt. Chimborazo, Mt. Everest) logically speaking Mt. Chimborazo would be the tallest due to the elliptical shape of our planet. If the Billy Meier contact report is needed to verify this I will find it and copy/paste it here shouldn't take too long :yes:

While the summit of Chimborazo is farther from the center of the Earth than Everest, mountains do not start at the center of the Earth but on the surface.  As such it is not the tallest mountain on the Earth and since the information seems to have been available before his claim of the contact was made then it pretty much invalidates where he says he got it from.

There is of course still does not alter the fact that he tried to pass off Earth singers as aliens from another world, clearly showing the fraudulent nature of his claims..

Edited by Quaentum, 06 March 2013 - 09:38 PM.

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I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:43 PM

It has been awhile since i posted last, here is an update on this topic: http://theyflyblog.c...com/blog/rssfee


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 09:00 PM

View Postacriasis, on 17 July 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

It has been awhile since i posted last, here is an update on this topic: http://theyflyblog.c...com/blog/rssfee


I can only respond to the first art ringht now and will get to the rest later.

The problem the fly's article is with Dr Rahl Zahi.  The only person by that name I can find in a search on the net is someone who is an  Astronomer, painter and writer of fiction and spiritual growth books. Concerned about the future of humanity  http://www.authorsden.com/zahi

Certainly not someone with the expertise in photo analysis.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:51 PM

View Postacriasis, on 17 July 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

It has been awhile since i posted last, here is an update on this topic: http://theyflyblog.c...com/blog/rssfee

Seriously?!

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