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#76    Hasina

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:23 PM

View PostHasina, on 23 January 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

To the people who view the human species as a plague or a cancer, are you, personally, a plague and a cancer? Should you not be eradicated then?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

At this moment in time, as a part of the human race, yes I would consider myself as part of a plague in the old sense of a plague of locust.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

I would say that the problem is not so much humanity but certain humans who would rather make profit than ensure more eco friendly products and behaviours.  I wonder how many plastic products could be replaced with equivilents made from hemp, a quick growing versatile crop?  The problem is corporate greed of companies such as dupont and oil companies, not humanity.  Humanity needs to Demand, with a capital 'D' that these companies be riegned in and more eco friendly products be produced.  If any one here has read A Brave New World they will remember that the society in that novel was based on consumptions and consumerism, being taught that mending your clothes was a sin while buying something new was saintly because it provided a reason for a job.  We live in the brave new world.  The people who run things need to have thier jobs taken away through decapitation, not humanity wiped out for the good of the earth.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:43 PM

I've been talking about overpopulation for years.  How can anybody with any concern for children have them. Having a child is the most selfish and selfcentered thing a woman can do. I see little proof people have higher intelligence when they give in to animal instinct. As far as people being a plague, I think the agent in the first Matrix movie said it perfectly. OOPS! I forgot, all you have to do is believe in the lord and everything will be okay.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostHasina, on 24 January 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Any answers? I'm curious.
Fine!  I deserve to die....come over to my house and kill me...I won't fight back.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:04 PM

View PostOverSword, on 24 January 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

Fine!  I deserve to die....come over to my house and kill me...I won't fight back.
:o :mellow: -starts packing- :ph34r:

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

Certain posts are on about killing humans which is rubbish because unless you die by accident, You..Yes. All of you will not die willingly.When Sir David said "humans are a plague", I would argue that he meant that humans are increasing so rapidly that the food supply is going to become very scarce in a few years time, so we have to look for a source to solve this problem, as its going to get worse not better.I'm sure that most people have seen the sorry state of some African children, some of them don't even have good clean water to drink,never mind having to eat flour and dirty water every day as there is nothing else.Well guys that's going to be Us in a few years time unless we can come up with a solution to the "Plague" problem. Euthanasia / Suicide, is not the answer.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:23 AM

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How can anybody with any concern for children have them. Having a child is the most selfish and selfcentered thing a woman can do

You sir, are a read idi@t. I could write pages on why you are wrong, but I doubt you could comprehend most of it. :unsure2:


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:42 AM

View Postnothingliz, on 24 January 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Are we ready for space exploration though.  We may go to outer-space but we will bring our bad habits with us.  Even I want to go to outer-space but one must be benneficial to the space community.  Sad to say, Im not so benneficial.  There will be all-kinds of encounters of the 3rd kind going on and the question is, will they see us as a threat or welcome us.  So far they've not made too many steps toward getting to know us one on one.  I can see why.  We are dirty, filthy beings, spiritually we stink to high heaven.  War is inevitable, get ready for it.  No one wants a war, not even I.  But we do all live beyond our means.  We as an american people have grown use to being lazy, eating un-healthy, and food for slacking off.  But even still what we need is not war, but greater a greater spiritual revival to rally around.

Since are Population is Growing at a Rapid rate we will need to start colonizing Space sooner or later. Theres lots of room out there.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:00 AM

View Posthighdesert50, on 24 January 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

As the population increases so does the likelihood of a worldwide pandemic and subsequent loss of population. Indeed, given the human's innate need to procreate and explore, it is unfortunate that we dropped the ball following the manned moon landings decades ago and never moved onto other planets that could be inhabited.

But we didnt drop the ball. The simple fact is we cannot even travel between the planets in our own solar system, that we already know cannot sustain life, let alone human life, no the ball wasnt dropped its just that the vast distance and speed needed to actively visit any planet, (and we havent found a suitable one even with todays technology), makes it impossible to do, its just a dream.

This is our planet. Best make do with it. Man will never colonize another world. Its just the way it is Im afraid.  

But typical of man to even think that we can just rinse this world of its resources, and move on.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:02 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 24 January 2013 - 04:36 AM, said:

killing extinct animals.


:w00t:   How does one kill an extinct animal?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:07 AM

View Postlilmcnessy, on 24 January 2013 - 06:19 AM, said:

There are going to be too many humans and there arn't many choices to solve the problem but we can either limit chilred per person or something like that say 2 per person. Or colonise other planets which unfortunately we do not have the technology yet

the Chinese limited childbirth... they still have a population of about 1.5 billion tho

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:29 AM

View Poststevemagegod, on 24 January 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

We have War to keep the Population in Check.

Its the natural disasters that will actually harm us more than wars. Like changing weather patterns, sea level rises and floodings. The Tsunami in Fukushima, for ex, the nuclear plants destroyed, and the fall out that is still happening, will not go away for who knows how  many years. Its just not in mainstream news much, but you cant clean radiation. Which is spewing into the sea even as I write, fish/babies/birds/life in general, all are suffering from cancerous mutations from the fallout...on that one subject alone...who can tell what the long term outcome will be? Radiation is in the food chain. Now.

Just in the last 2 years we see droughts in places that were green, and much rain in lands that were arid and dry. The world IS changing right now. This isn't something we can avoid, its the way it is,  Due to the weather, Australia and the US corn production has dropped, among many other staple crops and its already pushing prices up, another year of weird weather, yes just one more year, and we are really in the poop.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 24 January 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

At this moment in time, as a part of the human race, yes I would consider myself as part of a plague in the old sense of a plague of locust.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:36 AM

How exactly are we a plague on the Earth?  The Earth isn't a living thing that feels pain or has ups and downs.  It's an inanimate piece of rock with some water on it.  Life itself could be argued to be parasites on the Earth.  We're a plague to other living things, but the only bad from that(from a natural point of view) is that in the long run we will only hurt ourselves if we keep up what we've been doing.  Preservation of living things and habitats is good from a moral point of view, but "nature" couldn't care less since nature is always changing for good and bad.

We aren't "destroying" the world.  We're changing it.  Depending on your point of view, it's either for good or bad.  I personally think we've done a lot more good for humanity than bad with how we've changed it.  The only issue comes from our growing population, which will require even further destruction/invasion of the "natural" world to sustain it, and pollution that is making the water and air unhealthy in some areas.  If at all possible we should reduce our population growth and reduce pollution, but if push comes to shove then we need to, and will, do whatever it takes to keep ourselves thriving.






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