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[thewatchman7]

Murrangurk, on 14 January 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

I hate how people who know NOTHING about atsrology say it's a load of crap.

Chinese go by the movemnet of Jupiter as the primary focus. We use the sun.  the chinese also use the sun, as we do Jupiter.

If at anytime you had of gone a little deeper with your investigation it would not have taken long to realise this.

I could go on and on explaining Astrology and un twisting the ridiciulous attitudes people have towards it but why bother???????

It really pisses me off because something is going, Astrology reveals it, and as humans we jam our heads up our butts.

Anyone who doesn't know what Atsrology is and thinks its crap should get their chart done by a good, practicing astrologer.

There are more things in heaven and earth horatio than are disregarded by your pathological, shallow and irrational skepticism.

time to fact check, for such an outragous claim please provide at least one straw of evidence.

[dalia]

Very strange...

Ok..so they brought in a new sign so that the anti-Christ would have a sign to be born in.
Interesting too that, in the article they misspelled bearer using barer. Bearer means carrier, barer means to make bare or expose. Hhhhmmmm....   Serpent=Satan

[xScorpinix]

Screw being a Libra, I'm a Scorpio and I'm staying a Scorpio.

[ancientAstrologer]

Many people say I don't like my new Sign! I don't want to be a Libra. I'll stay a Scorpio! I'll keep the 12 Zodiac Astrology.
But it is not up to them to decide which date they were born.
Actually the Zodiac Sign is depending only on the date of birth. It is the place of the Sun on the Ecliptic the date you were born. The Ecliptic path of the Sun on the sky is divided in 13 Zodiac Constellations in the last few hundred years.
So depending to your date of birth you are:

Pisces 12 March – 19 Apr
Aries  19 Apr - 14 May
Taurus 14 May - 21 June
Gemini 22 June - 21 July
Cancer 21 July - 11 Aug
Leo 11 Aug - 17 Sept
Virgo 17 Sep - 31 Oct
Libra 31 Oct - 23 Nov
Scorpio 23 Nov - 30 Nov
Ophiuchus 30 Nov - 18 Dec
Sagittarius 18 Dec - 20 Jan
Capricorn 20 Jan - 16 Feb
Aquarius 16 Feb - 12 March

Your Zodiac Sign is like the color of your eyes. It cannot be changed. I does not depend on your will!
With the old 12 zodiac I was supposed to be Capricorn because I was born the 3rd of January. In reality I'm a Sagittarius. Actually I was always a Sagittarius but did not know about it. When I was born the Sun was in Sagittarius.
I think it's time for people to reconciliate with their new Signs.

[Agent D. Scully]

I liked being an archer.... but Ophiuchus is cool too. Caduceuses (caduceus? cuducei?) are pretty awesome. What's not to like about a snake... on a stick? haha

[ancientAstrologer]

Agent D. Scully, on 12 February 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

I liked being an archer.... but Ophiuchus is cool too. Caduceuses (caduceus? cuducei?) are pretty awesome. What's not to like about a snake... on a stick? haha

"Ophiuchus is identified with Asclepius the physician of Greek antiquity.  He was educated from his father Apollo and the centaur Chiron. He was the doctor of the Argonaut campaign.  When he returned for this campaign he was considered capable of raising the dead. The King of Hades was insulted by his behavior that he asked from Zeus to punish him. Thus Zeus killed the first doctor of humanity. His father Apollo, made him immortal, raising him to the heavens as a constellation.
The close association of Asclepius (Ophiuchus) and the snakes is due to the fact that snakes represented wisdom, rejuvenation, and the power of the discovery of new healing herbs."
(From the book "Astrology of the 13 Signs of the Zodiac" by Vasilis Kanatas)

[karmakazi]

ancientAstrologer, on 12 February 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Many people say I don't like my new Sign! I don't want to be a Libra. I'll stay a Scorpio! I'll keep the 12 Zodiac Astrology.
But it is not up to them to decide which date they were born.
Actually the Zodiac Sign is depending only on the date of birth. It is the place of the Sun on the Ecliptic the date you were born. The Ecliptic path of the Sun on the sky is divided in 13 Zodiac Constellations in the last few hundred years.
So depending to your date of birth you are:

Your Zodiac Sign is like the color of your eyes. It cannot be changed. I does not depend on your will!
With the old 12 zodiac I was supposed to be Capricorn because I was born the 3rd of January. In reality I'm a Sagittarius. Actually I was always a Sagittarius but did not know about it. When I was born the Sun was in Sagittarius.
I think it's time for people to reconciliate with their new Signs.

That's pretty much what I was gonna say... the shift should only apply to those born after it, those of us born before would still have been born in our "native" sign.  I don't pay any attention to horoscopes, they're always either too vague or are inaccurate for me.  I have noticed that people born under the same sign have similar traits but it doesn't seem like astrology predicts the details of our lives.

They can say what they want... I'll always be an Aquarius!  

[ancientAstrologer]

karmakazi, on 15 February 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

That's pretty much what I was gonna say... the shift should only apply to those born after it, those of us born before would still have been born in our "native" sign.  I don't pay any attention to horoscopes, they're always either too vague or are inaccurate for me.  I have noticed that people born under the same sign have similar traits but it doesn't seem like astrology predicts the details of our lives.

They can say what they want... I'll always be an Aquarius!  

@Karmakazi

It is interesting to see people misunderstand my written thoughts.

The shift exists for more than 500 years. This means that everybody is involved.  
Your are probably a Capricorn instead of Aquarius.  
But you can still believe whatever you want  

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

I don't think it'll catch on. I don't know why they need to keep changing everything. It's like whenever they give Youtube a new Look; it's very rarely an improvement. So does this mean that all these "characteristics" that people belonging to a particular Sign are all supposed to have will change, or the characteristics stay the same but the Signs they're attributed to change? So are (for instance) Scorpios still Vindictive and obsessed with Sex, but now they're Australopithicus or whatever it is?

[karmakazi]

ancientAstrologer, on 15 February 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

@Karmakazi

It is interesting to see people misunderstand my written thoughts.

The shift exists for more than 500 years. This means that everybody is involved.  
Your are probably a Capricorn instead of Aquarius.  
But you can still believe whatever you want  

I'd probably be a mix of the two anyway since I'm on the cusp, born on the 15th.  

I looked up Capricorn when I first heard of the change and found:
Some traditional Capricorn traits are: practical and prudent; ambitious and disciplined; patient and careful; humorous and reserved

That's very much not me

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

karmakazi, on 15 February 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

I'd probably be a mix of the two anyway since I'm on the cusp, born on the 15th.  

I looked up Capricorn when I first heard of the change and found:
Some traditional Capricorn traits are: practical and prudent; ambitious and disciplined; patient and careful; humorous and reserved

That's very much not me

that's what I always say in any case. I'm (accoring to the traditional way) right at the beginning of Sagiattrius, but i always feel much more strongly like Scorpio next door, which leads me to suspect that there probably must have been some slippage in the dates over time (perhaps because of the procession of the Equinoxes or something   ), and the traditional dates need adjusting a bit. That's why I don't really see that there's a need to bring in some completely new one, particularly one with a silly name. What is Oph- whatever it was called supposed to be? Leo is the Lion, Siagittrius the Archer and so on, so what's Ophilpothamus supposed to be exactly?
I know I probably haven't spelled Sagtiattrius right. i'd like to see someone who could.

[karmakazi]

747400, on 15 February 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

that's what I always say in any case. I'm (accoring to the traditional way) right at the beginning of Sagiattrius, but i always feel much more strongly like Scorpio next door, which leads me to suspect that there probably must have been some slippage in the dates over time (perhaps because of the procession of the Equinoxes or something   ), and the traditional dates need adjusting a bit. That's why I don't really see that there's a need to bring in some completely new one, particularly one with a silly name. What is Oph- whatever it was called supposed to be? Leo is the Lion, Siagittrius the Archer and so on, so what's Ophilpothamus supposed to be exactly?
I know I probably haven't spelled Sagtiattrius right. i'd like to see someone who could.

The typical sign people go by is just the sun sign, and a full chart of your birth date & time takes into accounts the position of the sun, moon and planets as well.  As I understand it, the rest of your chart can affect you as much as your sun sign and in some people the position of some other celestial body can have a bigger impact on you than your sun sign.  That may be why you feel like you aren't a Sagittarius (that's the correct spelling, I checked ) both because your on the cusp and because something else in your chart is somewhat dominant.  I'd be interested to see if the moon or a dominant planet was in Scorpio in your chart, that could add to those traits.

Of course, I'm no expert so take what I say with a grain of salt



Oh and Ophiuchus is the serpent bearer and usually depicted as a man grasping a snake.

Edited by karmakazi, 16 February 2012 - 03:21 AM.

[ancientAstrologer]

karmakazi, on 16 February 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

The typical sign people go by is just the sun sign, and a full chart of your birth date & time takes into accounts the position of the sun, moon and planets as well.  As I understand it, the rest of your chart can affect you as much as your sun sign and in some people the position of some other celestial body can have a bigger impact on you than your sun sign.  That may be why you feel like you aren't a Sagittarius (that's the correct spelling, I checked ) both because your on the cusp and because something else in your chart is somewhat dominant.  I'd be interested to see if the moon or a dominant planet was in Scorpio in your chart, that could add to those traits.

Of course, I'm no expert so take what I say with a grain of salt



Oh and Ophiuchus is the serpent bearer and usually depicted as a man grasping a snake.

You can see your true zodiac Sign here
I used to be Capricorn but now I'm definitely a Sagittarian!

@474400

You cannot compare the New look of Youtube with Astrology.

Astrology represents a whole system of ideas.
This is really very old and has to be replaced by a new one after 2000 years.
It can be a system of 13 Zodiac Signs or anything else. But it has to be based again on Astronomy like it was 2000 years ago.

Youtube is changing looks after months or years of operation and it carries only other peoples data. It is not a philosophy or concept of life.

[monica-louise]

SV-001, on 13 January 2011 - 11:13 PM, said:

I liked being capricorn!  

Update: Wow I just realized my spelling makes it seem like I'm in the third grade or something.. LOl sorry!

Hmm now i am a Capricorn, i loved being an Aquarius, i did hear a few years back something similar with regards to the 13th sign being called Arachnid and the consensus was that is was placed  1 week end of May to 2 weeks into June. There will always be someone meddling but in my book there will only ever be 12 signs, and there is a very good reason why there is 12 and not 13 or 14, symbolism and perfection, because of the elements and respective houses 12 signs will always work in harmony.

[monica-louise]

The upcoming Earth-shift has nothing to do with astrology or position of other planets it has to do with the rise in consciousness on a bigger scale than Earth has ever seen before.  The last time it happen was when Atlantis was destroyed, this time its going to be the whole earth.  Gaia has had enough, she has been raped of her vital resources and if we don't mend our ways she will rid herself of us as she has done many times before.  The Earth-shift is bigger than anyone can really imagine, those of you who have ascended and became of service to others and will harm none by words or actions will be allowed to progress to the new Earth that is being prepared at this time. When we die this time we will not be reincarnating here, those of us who still have unresolved issues will be allowed to continue your path somewhere else.  The only people who will remain here will be the Elite of the world, they will be made to remain here in 3d world because they are the ones who have caused this to be, they will be the ones trapped not us, those who have ascended will go on to 5th density earth where issues like hunger and want will be a thing of the past.  The ones going to the new Earth will be told not to look back,[remember Lots wife in the bible who turned to a pillar of salt after looking back ?]. There is so much more to it than this and I cannot possibly do it justice with the few words.