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Should Westboro BC be classed a hate group ?


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#1    Simbi Laveau

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:35 PM

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Move over Piers Morgan ,a petition to declare the Westboro Baptist Church ,a hate group,has become the most signed petition in Whitehouse.govs history .

And rightly so I may add.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:39 PM

Agreed, finally a useful petition!

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

....is that what I typed ? I am having a TIA ....?
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

If this was a poll Id leave my mark.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

To me, this question cant be answered so cut and dry. If you classify them as a hate group you are in essence attacking their rights to free speech... as far as I know this group has done nothing to be violent. All they have done is protest and scream a message that they believe.... Im not saying I agree with their stance, and as a soldier I find it especially despicable... However, in this country everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. I think the best way to diminish WBC is to be louder than they are. Kevin Smith and the Patriot guard have done an excellent job at this.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

View PostHasina, on 28 December 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Agreed, finally a useful petition!

How was the Death Star petition not useful?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 28 December 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

How was the Death Star petition not useful?
Because all I need is a farm boy who can shoot womp rats.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:01 PM

View PostHasina, on 28 December 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

Because all I need is a farm boy who can shoot womp rats.

Find someone who can bulls-eye womp rats from a T-16 and you might be on to something. Until then, I want my Death Star!

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

View PostDredimus, on 28 December 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

To me, this question cant be answered so cut and dry. If you classify them as a hate group you are in essence attacking their rights to free speech... as far as I know this group has done nothing to be violent. All they have done is protest and scream a message that they believe.... Im not saying I agree with their stance, and as a soldier I find it especially despicable... However, in this country everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. I think the best way to diminish WBC is to be louder than they are. Kevin Smith and the Patriot guard have done an excellent job at this.

Mmm,good points,but technically,all they spout is hate speech,which is a crime ....???? There's free speech ,and then speech that affects and infringes on the rights of others ?
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

WBC got some comuppance put down on them. Maybe they can learn. Maybe not. But yeah funerals are bad place to make a point.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 28 December 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

Mmm,good points,but technically,all they spout is hate speech,which is a crime ....???? There's free speech ,and then speech that affects and infringes on the rights of others ?

And this is where it falls into a technical issue... WHEN does it start to infringe on the rights of others? Im not an advocate for this church as you well know... but looking for the line.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

I believe WBC has lawyers to deal with that. The petition heh. Id never sign one.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

The Westboro Church is already considered a hate group and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League, The Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI.

This petition is pointless. Besides, the Supreme court has already ruled their speech as constitutional, unfortunately.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:15 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 28 December 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

The Westboro Church is already considered a hate group and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League, The Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI.

This petition is pointless. Besides, the Supreme court has already ruled their speech as constitutional, unfortunately.

Thats where I was going with it. Free speech is free speech, theres no changing that for the most part. I despise this group but they arent technically a hate group. There has been no violence or malicious acts generated by them, Only "peaceful" protest.




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