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i have a question for all. i have discussed this with a couple of bible scholars i know. i believe that there was another population of people that lived on earth before the start of our bible. i believe they had their own bible to go by. it was pre adam years. undoubtly god destroyed that people and the earth was void until he made man again.in genesis 1-28 he told adam and eve to replenish the earth. i think this has been done before and before and before. that is why they say we are thousands of years old but there is no record of it in the bible. this is not the first bible. anybody have any op on this? please tell me i'm not crazy.

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Yes there were people who predated the Bible by a few million years. Cain married one of them.

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There is an indication of this in Genesis. God tells Adam to "replenish the earth", hence it was "plenished" prior to this. The record of Gen 1:2 in Hebrew cites that the earth "became" without form and was void, not that it was originally created that way. For your study purposes I have found that Finnis Jennings Dake has the most information regarding the "pre-Adamic" race. I do agree that there was a race prior to Adam. The fossil records prove this as well.

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This is my favorite subject, unfortunately I'm having second thoughts about some of the aspects of this theory...

Why was the pre adamite world destroyed?

Where is the scientific evidence of this destruction?

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I've been by this topic for a while now. And you got me interested. I wanna know about this.

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I've been by this topic for a while now. And you got me interested. I wanna know about this.

In broad strokes, it's called the "Gap Theory".

Basically it interprets the 1st two verses of Genesis in a way that allows us to account for the age of the earth, billions of years.

It also allows us to account for the fossil evidence and the idea that Genesis is actually much older than anyone can imagine.

The earths existence is divided into epochs or ages, and we are merely living in the latest of many ages. We don't know how many.

The idea is that genesis is the literal restoration and not creation of mankind and the earth.

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Doesn't the book of Enoch, and Jubilees go into this in some detail?

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There is a theory, the Earth was smacked by a Mars size planet which knocked enough material out to make the moon. Some say there may have been life on the first Earth.

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There is an indication of this in Genesis. God tells Adam to "replenish the earth", hence it was "plenished" prior to this. The record of Gen 1:2 in Hebrew cites that the earth "became" without form and was void, not that it was originally created that way. For your study purposes I have found that Finnis Jennings Dake has the most information regarding the "pre-Adamic" race. I do agree that there was a race prior to Adam. The fossil records prove this as well.

moondoggy is right on with this explanation... it is one that i personally believe myself... and to further add to what was already said...

"For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else." Isaiah 45:18

the word vain is that same word (BOHU) translated as void...

the Hebrew word for "without form" is TOHU - means to lay waste, desolate... (Genesis 1:2)

one has to question why God would emphasize that He didn't originally create it void...

what happened to make it become void?

also... the word create... in Hebrew is BARA - means to create out of nothing (Genesis 1:1)

the word form in Hebrew is YATSAR - means to mould into form like a potter

this is a very good topic because many people aren't aware of a lot of the things in the Bible... especially this belief in particular... for some reason... people assume that all Christians believe in a 6,000 year old earth... :tu:

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In broad strokes, it's called the "Gap Theory".

Basically it interprets the 1st two verses of Genesis in a way that allows us to account for the age of the earth, billions of years.

It also allows us to account for the fossil evidence and the idea that Genesis is actually much older than anyone can imagine.

The earths existence is divided into epochs or ages, and we are merely living in the latest of many ages. We don't know how many.

The idea is that genesis is the literal restoration and not creation of mankind and the earth.

Thank you, Jor-el. I might be coming back to the thread.

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There is a theory, the Earth was smacked by a Mars size planet which knocked enough material out to make the moon. Some say there may have been life on the first Earth.

Unfortunately for the people who accept this theory it would also mean that the entire planet would have lost not only it's oceans, but also its atmosphere. The crust of the earth would have liquified into lava and that would have been the end of the matter. Permanently!!!

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Thank you, Jor-el. I might be coming back to the thread.

Well, when you do come by, throw us a few questions, it's alot easier to get the ball rolling that way... :tu:

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i have a question for all. i have discussed this with a couple of bible scholars i know. i believe that there was another population of people that lived on earth before the start of our bible. i believe they had their own bible to go by. it was pre adam years. undoubtly god destroyed that people and the earth was void until he made man again.in genesis 1-28 he told adam and eve to replenish the earth. i think this has been done before and before and before. that is why they say we are thousands of years old but there is no record of it in the bible. this is not the first bible. anybody have any op on this? please tell me i'm not crazy.

Of course there was, and in the times before that, and beyond as well. Mankind is just the latest type of near human that has been designed. There would'nt be any refference in the bible, the ones who made it up and wrote it, wanted everyone to believe their way and people were the only one's.

Though you all reffer to what has done this as a god, which they are not{though because of what they can do, most of you would} because of the information that was destroyed, so you have no refference. Which is what they wanted.

You would never believe that you yourself actually lived through these changes, and all you have to do is work at a finding these memories within yourself.

Good post jor-el.

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Of course there was, and in the times before that, and beyond as well. Mankind is just the latest type of near human that has been designed. There would'nt be any refference in the bible, the ones who made it up and wrote it, wanted everyone to believe their way and people were the only one's.

Though you all reffer to what has done this as a god, which they are not{though because of what they can do, most of you would} because of the information that was destroyed, so you have no refference. Which is what they wanted.

You would never believe that you yourself actually lived through these changes, and all you have to do is work at a finding these memories within yourself.

Good post jor-el.

Being a christian who knows his bible, I regretfully have to say that I wasn't there to have lived through those changes. We only live once, our souls are eternal and once they leave this physical body, they move on to other things. We don't come back and get to do all again.

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one has to question why God would emphasize that He didn't originally create it void...

what happened to make it become void?

also... the word create... in Hebrew is BARA - means to create out of nothing (Genesis 1:1)

the word form in Hebrew is YATSAR - means to mould into form like a potter

To clarify: are we are talking about an existence of life that was here well before the famous 'seven day creation' known in the bible?

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To clarify: are we are talking about an existence of life that was here well before the famous 'seven day creation' known in the bible?

Yes, that's what we're talking about.

The 7 days of creation, are not the beginning of creation but merely a restoration, or in more scientific terms, a recovery period in earths history after it was decimated by some event that wiped out the majority of life on the planet.

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Being a christian who knows his bible, I regretfully have to say that I wasn't there to have lived through those changes. We only live once, our souls are eternal and once they leave this physical body, they move on to other things. We don't come back and get to do all again.

Well, i tried. And that is why you and your people{religious} are going to be the one's destroyed when it all comes down. The balance reguires that your kind recieve what you have given.

Death, prej. hate, and war. The extermination of you all comes from what your kind did to those races in the past. Their extermination that made your kind{religious} possable.

That you and the rest of them, refuse to aknowledge what is in front of you, despite all the clues given, have determined your kinds fate. That you refuse to see what has been shown, and call it demonic presence or possesion, is only an indication that they cannot move on. Those in the future do not want them.

Religious mis-interpitation and the cruelty that has inspired, has sealed your fates, you are not wanted.

Sorry if i bothered you, i won't do so again. Chuse

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Well, i tried. And that is why you and your people{religious} are going to be the one's destroyed when it all comes down. The balance reguires that your kind recieve what you have given.

Death, prej. hate, and war. The extermination of you all comes from what your kind did to those races in the past. Their extermination that made your kind{religious} possable.

That you and the rest of them, refuse to aknowledge what is in front of you, despite all the clues given, have determined your kinds fate. That you refuse to see what has been shown, and call it demonic presence or possesion, is only an indication that they cannot move on. Those in the future do not want them.

Religious mis-interpitation and the cruelty that has inspired, has sealed your fates, you are not wanted.

Sorry if i bothered you, i won't do so again. Chuse

I have a simple question for you, since you know so many "details" relating to past ages on the earth, please share your thoughts on what exactly happened without having to resort to "your kind" as if I were a wild animal or something.

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Yes, that's what we're talking about.

The 7 days of creation, are not the beginning of creation but merely a restoration, or in more scientific terms, a recovery period in earths history after it was decimated by some event that wiped out the majority of life on the planet.

I see.

I remember reading where it describes the earth as a "watery deep" before God created the land, or continents. I have often wondered about this "deep" and often wondered if anything existed within this "deep" before. You know what they say "where there is water, there is life" but it was only an assumption. :unsure2:

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I see.

I remember reading where it describes the earth as a "watery deep" before God created the land, or continents. I have often wondered about this "deep" and often wondered if anything existed within this "deep" before. You know what they say "where there is water, there is life" but it was only an assumption. :unsure2:

I personally am more inclined nowadays to take the literal text of Genesis with a pinch of salt. I believe it to be the truth as seen through the eyes of witnesses who lived through the event and found this way of describing what they saw. Since they couldn't explain things in a scientific language, they resorted to a mystical approach.

God used this as the beginning of a new era and the end of the old age that predated it.

I believe in God as creator and restorer of our world, I also accept his divine creation of humanity in Adam and Eve. What I don't accept is that there was no life on earth after the catastrophe. In other words, he didn't create the animals, plants and fish, many of which survived the cataclysm.

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i cant believe how much this sounds like a fairy tale. sorry i dont mean to question your religion but i couldnt just sit here and read this.

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Is there any solid proof for this? I'm not being a skaptic. Just wondering.

O_o

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Is there any solid proof for this? I'm not being a skaptic. Just wondering.

O_o

proof for which part?

we are just discussing what the Bible alludes to...

it doesn't directly say it in the english... but in the Hebrew it's very clear...

if you are asking for proof that it actually happened... i'll put it this way...

can you prove that you picked out your clothes yesterday morning and someone else didn't do it for you?

what we know is that we exist... what we don't know is why... and what was here before us... on that, we can only speculate or look for other ancient texts that explain what we are looking for...

as everyone has said many times on many threads... there isn't much solid proof for anything that mankind believes in... :no:

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Sorry, The Phantom. ^^; My bad.

Shutting up now.

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