Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:26 PM
xCrimsonx, on 17 December 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:
I hear ya, here they take the jobs, get free dental, the pension, health care, choice of subsidised education for their kids, oh and I've recently heard the first home buyers grant and health care cards. Australians can't afford to by homes, gots no teeth, and we have to conform to their needs and have to be seen to publicly do so with smile's on our faces. Religion and terrorism with win eventually and its happening right under "our" allied noses!
Australia sorted gun access policy after the Port Arthur massacre, the choice wasn't hard to make its just common sence.
Oh lord, we have another shooting to made national headlines. Recently there was a shooting in the Newport Beach Fashion Island mall here in Sou Cal. This is scary to have the rash of mass shootings in the country and the need to prevent them from happening is urgent. I'm not for outlawing guns, because criminals always find ways to obtain them to commit crimes, which is the case of controversial current gun control.
Wearer of Hats, on 17 December 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:
if only there were more guns bring carried in public, thst way these sick people would think twice about going on a rampage.
honestly, i don't think it would make any difference. you're assuming they think even once about the ramifications of their actions. if any of them thought it through logically they would just kill themselves and spare everyone else in the first place.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Last week I got a tip from a co-worker about his daughter was in CSU Fullerton where they had a 8 hour lockdown by a shooter entering their campus. The rise of violent attacks and shootings comes from urges of people wanting to be "famous" in an infamous way...when a shooting occurs, they see it on the news and get ideas to commit them. Those are psychologically damaged people who shouldn't get near any guns.
The United States has the highest gun ownership rates in the world and the second highest rate of gun deaths among industrialized nations.
That's not a coincidence. Looking at developed nations, the U.S. is the end point of a staggering trend where the higher the rate of gun ownership, the more people die from gun wounds.
In the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre, Mark Reid, a machine learning researcher at Australian National University, has run a quick statistical analysis of gun death data in industrialized nations.
His charts show how unique the U.S. is among its peers when it comes to the way the country handles guns.
The first chart shows gun deaths per capita graphed against gun ownership per capita. Notice the upward trend — the more guns per capita, the more gun deaths per capita. The US has the most guns, ergo it has one of the highest rates of gun deaths.
Digging a little deeper, Reid realized that the strangely high rankings of gun deaths in countries like Switzerland and Finland were due to high suicide rates. Additionally, one of the reasons the Swiss have such a high gun ownership is because of the country's mandatory male military service, after which the men may keep their guns.
When it comes to homicides and gun ownership rates, Mexico and the United States are each in a league of their own, with ownership rates and death rates that skew the axes of the entire chart. You can see a close-up of the countries that aren't the U.S. or Mexico on Reid's site.
Below is the chart that Reid made of strictly gun homicides:
ok here are the facts the shooter was unable to purchase a gun legally, so he killed his mother and stole her guns and then went to the school the security would not allow him in the facility so he broke the window to get in and killed as many people as he could and didnt stop till someone pointed a gun at him and then he took the cowards way out and shot himself, tell me where any new gun law would have prevented any of this.