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[Seeker79]

Chrlzs, on 20 February 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

I'd very strongly suggest, on just a quick look, that the 'sparks' are in fact optical effects caused by a scratched lens/coverglass/window/windscreen.

I mean, *think* about it and look at the image.  Note the straight lines going up and down from the brightest portion?  The angled one going at about 45 degrees?  Are those 'real' - of course not, they are optical 'flares'.

The effects look exactly to me like what you get from a window with erratic microscratching - when you are driving at night in an old car with wiper-induced scratches or smearing, you will get the same effects - streaks that emanate outwards from a bright light source.

And yes, they can most definitely go forwards...  Depends on the angle/motion of camera/glass and the motion of the object.  And given all those videos of this, why was this the only one?  A magically super-sensitive lens and sensor?  Or shooting thru scratched/smeared media..  I'll go with Occam's razor..

Yes I'd did look a little semetrical .

[Seeker79]

preacherman76, on 20 February 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

We definitly have the tech to destroy a on coming meteor. We can hit a missle with a missle. I see no reason to believe that was the case here. Nor do I see a reason to denie it if they did hit it.

That would be something to be proud of for sure. Those meteors travel at excessive speeds.

[skyeagle409]

psyche101, on 20 February 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

No reason to think this was a weapon, although the more credulous zealots will no doubt lap this up.

Remember this is not unique to the USSR, the Tunguska event in 1908 was bigger.

Good deal!!   You took the words right out of my mouth!

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Let me get this straight...

The claim is the Russians have a secret weapon that can destroy small asteroids. They also tracked a small asteroid that no one else even saw. They allowed this asteroid to enter the atmosphere over their territory and reach a low enough altitude so that destroying it would cause billions of Roubles of damage on the ground. They then chose to intercept the asteroid (with this top secret weapon they don't want anyone to know about) over a populated region where there were tens of thousands of witnesses and hundreds of video cameras to observe the event. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

I think the original poster posted this in the wrong place. It should have been posted here: most absurd conspiracies

[CrimsonKing]

freetoroam, on 20 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

We did not even know it was coming, let alone have all missiles ready to shoot at it. All eyes were on the one which was not going to hit us.
I will now call Russia the Earths butt.

I laughed so hard my knee hurt and i have drank a lot tonight i shouldnt feel anything hahaha

[Jacques Terreur]

Waspie_Dwarf, on 21 February 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

Let me get this straight...

The claim is the Russians have a secret weapon that can destroy small asteroids. They also tracked a small asteroid that no one else even saw. They allowed this asteroid to enter the atmosphere over their territory and reach a low enough altitude so that destroying it would cause billions of Roubles of damage on the ground. They then chose to intercept the asteroid (with this top secret weapon they don't want anyone to know about) over a populated region where there were tens of thousands of witnesses and hundreds of video cameras to observe the event. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

I think the original poster posted this in the wrong place. It should have been posted here: most absurd conspiracies

hahaha, i like how one post made the rest of this thread kinda obsolete.....

[Rafterman]

Waspie_Dwarf, on 21 February 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

Let me get this straight...

The claim is the Russians have a secret weapon that can destroy small asteroids. They also tracked a small asteroid that no one else even saw. They allowed this asteroid to enter the atmosphere over their territory and reach a low enough altitude so that destroying it would cause billions of Roubles of damage on the ground. They then chose to intercept the asteroid (with this top secret weapon they don't want anyone to know about) over a populated region where there were tens of thousands of witnesses and hundreds of video cameras to observe the event. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

I think the original poster posted this in the wrong place. It should have been posted here: most absurd conspiracies

Not to mention, the folks at JPL are now estimating that the meteor was traveling at around 44,000 miles-per-hour.  That's about Mach 58.

The fastest intercept missiles using hypersonic scramjet technology are currently in development and they are looking at speeds of around Mach 6.  The fastest missiles in existence are ICBMs that reach mach speeds in the mid teens upon reentry.

So the notion that an interceptor exists that can hit something traveling at Mach 58 is a bit far fetched.

Edited by Rafterman, 21 February 2013 - 02:43 PM.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Rafterman, on 21 February 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

So the notion that an interceptor exists that can hit something traveling at Mach 58 is a bit far fetched.

Actually that's probably the least far-fetched part of this whole nonsense, after all a sufficiently powerful laser or particle beam weapon could hit an asteroid even at those speeds.

[Frank Merton]

I haven't read through this entire thread, so forgive me if someone else has already said this, but if the one that hit us really was going to destroy a major Russian city, maybe the aliens at the last second did the morally correct thing, but in such a way that we could never prove it.

[freetoroam]

Frank Merton, on 21 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

I haven't read through this entire thread, so forgive me if someone else has already said this, but if the one that hit us really was going to destroy a major Russian city, maybe the aliens at the last second did the morally correct thing, but in such a way that we could never prove it.

No, no one has mentioned this!

What do you mean anyway? that they decided to crash instead or sent a smaller rock instead of the big one? but can you imagine the size of the ship needed to be able to fire out rocks that size, that surely would have been spotted?

[Frank Merton]

A big rock was about to kill a million or so people, and one presumes they being so smart went ahead and blew it up, knowing there was nothing we could do.  But since they want to keep their cover they made it look very different.

Hey -- don't make me defend this rigorously -- I was just playing a game.

[Rafterman]

Waspie_Dwarf, on 21 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Actually that's probably the least far-fetched part of this whole nonsense, after all a sufficiently powerful laser or particle beam weapon could hit an asteroid even at those speeds.

But was the USS Enterprise in orbit at the time and tracking said meteor......

[flyingswan]

Interesting piece on all the theories being proposed in Russia:
http://www.bloomberg...f-mistrust.html

[DONTEATUS]

Rafterman, on 21 February 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

But was the USS Enterprise in orbit at the time and tracking said meteor......

Wernt they tracking a F-104 Star Fighter ?

[Realm]

These rocks whether iron or other composition are roughly at -273 Celcius or -454 Farhenheit, basically the same temperature of space itself
after billions of years of floating around. When they start to rapidly heat upon entering the atmosphere, you are going to see explosive breakups
just as witnessed. No missile was needed for that sized rock, and a missile wouldn't dent larger ones.