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[AsteroidX]

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except they did not. It is NOT our highest law, it does NOT mean that and it is NOT guaranteed forever.

Ill be taking that out with my garbage this week.

[F3SS]

ninjadude, on 01 February 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

except they did not. It is NOT our highest law, it does NOT mean that and it is NOT guaranteed forever.

Meant to ask. Do you think Barak Obama thinks the same?

[Yamato]

ninjadude, on 01 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

no I'm very happy where I live and very happy with our system of government. The problem is YOU'RE NOT. You won't find me resorting to child games asking people to leave. You're an anarchist. I get it.

I'm very happy with our Constitutional Republic and I'm protecting it from people who have no respect for it or are acting like it doesn't exist.   A Constitutional government is a far cry from anarchy.  Sorry try again.

[Michelle]

Meanwhile, MSNBC is swaying public opinion by editing the video of the Newton gun hearing. And people talk about FOX news. They are all the same.

[Frank Merton]

Democracies seem to have their own set of problems.  The one thing the theorists have always said is that they have a legitimacy other forms of government lack.  Reading these posts I begin to doubt it.

[F3SS]

Michelle, on 01 February 2013 - 05:35 AM, said:

Meanwhile, MSNBC is swaying public opinion by editing the video of the Newton gun hearing. And people talk about FOX news. They are all the same.

Ah yes. The only news agency that has to hire Industrial Light and Magic to run their news clips. Nah, they couldn't afford that. It's more like they hire the team of National Lampoons.

Edited by -Mr_Fess-, 01 February 2013 - 09:28 PM.

[ninjadude]

-Mr_Fess-, on 01 February 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

What is then?

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

[Uncle Sam]

ninjadude, on 02 February 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

We need a dislike button.

[AsteroidX]

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there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

I see where you get your information from Ninjadude

http://www.democrati...ress=389x492427

[Likely Guy]

Uncle Sam, on 02 February 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

We need a dislike button.

I'd be all over that!

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ninjadude, on 02 February 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

there is no part of the constitution that is written in stone, unchangable, inviolate.

What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

[Stellar]

-Mr_Fess-, on 02 February 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

Why is wanting change a bad thing?

[ninjadude]

-Mr_Fess-, on 02 February 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

What is your beef with the constitution? And America? Don't lie. You're hellbent on changing both.

I don't have a "beef" with the constitution. Or America. I have a beef with those who LIE about it.

[Harte]

Likely Guy, on 27 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

BUT, not against your own government? That's usually called treason at worst, or insurrection at best.

I'm not a constitutional expert, but people in the US believe that armed revolution is a right that was written into the constitution? Really?

Really.  So did the men who put it in the Constitution:

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"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

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"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson

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"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment

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"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson

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"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])

So, why should we consider it any differently?

Harte

[Detective Mystery 2013]

Fortunately, many sheriffs still support our right to keep and bear arms because they recall that they took an oath to defend and obey the Constitution. People, with common sense, blame violent perpetrators, not inanimate weapons, for heinous murders. More gun laws mean nothing. Criminals disobey them. The vast majority of Americans don't fall into that category, and they shouldn't be treated like they do. If an ordinary American got divorced, got fired, played the most violent game, watched the most violent movie, and had an AK or AR on the coffee table in front of them, they wouldn't even seriously think about killing other people. The proposed laws aren't about guns. They're about control.