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[the eternal me]

so my thought is this.....

with the concept of a second coming, and the teachings of such a thing across more then one religious belief system....
what would it look like to you....
now keep in mind.... the Christians, the Jews, and the Muslims all speak of someone that will bring peace.....
and in the fundamental aspect of the beliefs in this person....
that is what it is in a nutshell....

a bringer of peace.....

from your belief system do you expect this person to be a magical being?
what about a great teacher who spreads knowledge and wisdom?
or just someone who can use common sense to quell a situation, and bring calm reasoning to heated debate?

or is this person all of the above?

i am curious about this because there are so many expectations of this person......
when the sole reason for the being of it is to bring peace...

by the way.... i am avoiding using gender bias towards this topic, because after all....
if there is a second coming?.....
we as a people would not recognise this person...

lets take the popular language out of the equation as well...
after all .... the direct translation from Hebrew of the word messiah simply means an anointed leader... (blessed leader)
and in that aspect... in the true sense of the word... any rabbi is a messiah....
Hebrew is what is considered a dead language... meaning it does not change....
what it meant a 1000 years ago.... still means the same thing today...

unlike the English language, where words change meaning and the context in which they are used changes as well...
bad today does not have the same meaning it did 50 years ago....
it has been expanded on... now bad can be interchanged with good....

so back to topic.....

so..... keeping the biblical history of Jesus.....
he spent his time with those that needed him....
the poor, the sick.... the morally reprehensible peoples of the day....
would this change?
or would he be found amongst thieves, drug addicts and the mentally ill?

they would be the ones that need this person the most....

so i don’t think that looking in the schools and places of power would be where this person would be found...

so... does that change any kind of view on the homeless problem?

in my opinion.... i don’t think this person would be found in any church either....
or in any great halls of our own making in the honour of said person...

but in the places where this person is needed.....

those being my thoughts on a peaceful discussion ....

lets discuss......

we can expand on anything, in any direction.....

lets just share our thoughts...

[Darkwind]

He comes and takes  all the Christians, Jews and Muslims and we Pagans dance naked on the beach.  

[The Mule]

aw....I thought this was something else.....nevermind...

[Professor T]

I had a second comming once..
It was a bit dissapointing to tell the truth.


But seriously, I'm hoping the second comming will be something of global humanity event. Not based on the arrival of some godly or person, but something born in the heart of all the worlds people, something shared.

Edited by Professor T, 16 September 2012 - 09:36 PM.

[Eldorado]

Jessica Alba serving me breakfast in bed.  I suppose.

[Hilander]

The second coming will probably start out low key but become a hurricane of mass proportions of paranormal events.

Edit: I wonder if this is why more people seem to be seeing ghosts, the dead are rising or having experiences with physic abilities.

Edited by Hilander, 16 September 2012 - 10:17 PM.

[spud the mackem]

Whoever this person is he/she will probably end up in the looney bin , as there have been many before him/her all professing to be the One, and they all do "time" in a padded cell.If some one came out and said that they were the Lord they would be "classified".They could already be here,Locked up.

[Ron Jeremy]

Wholesale genocide of billions of unbelievers. Like you and me.

[Simbi Laveau]

Sadly ,if media got wond of it ,it would look like this.

Ads for it all along the bleachers at the US open .
Madonna would sing a new song written especially for the event ,and have beyonce and pink as back up singers .

Pepsi would be the official sponsor ,and all coke drinkers would be so pissed,they would go atheist .

Merrill Lynch would build an amphitheater for the event ,and call it Merrill Cometh Hall .
Bank of America would issue special credit cards that give you a bonus every time you use the card to buy second coming goods .

They would need riot and SWAT teams ,bomb sniffing dogs ,and emergency services,all around the cometh hall,in case someone tried to assassinate or blow him up.

Air space above would be closed,grid lock for miles .

Gas and hotel and airfare prices would sky rocket .
Occupy wall street would engulf the cities,since all the police will be at the cometh hall .
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All other faiths would do suicide bombings all over the world to protest it .

There would be special iPhone apps to follow it .

Are we kidding ourselves,as to what,in today's world,it would be degenerated into ,by the aholes that run the world ?

It would be a massive joke,on anyone who just wants it to be the simple thing ,they hope for .

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 17 September 2012 - 12:21 AM.

[Harlequin Dreamer]

Aren't  people still arguing over the first coming, let alone a second.

[HavocWing]

That is what I think of the second coming.

Edited by HavocWing, 17 September 2012 - 01:23 AM.

[and then]

As you can see these kinds of threads dive for the bottom pretty quickly.   My understanding of eschatology (end times study) is that The Christ will return just before mankind is about to finish the job of exterminating itself.  He will intervene and stop the final destruction from occurring.  The Muslims believe the same about their awaited "guided one" the Mahdi.  Mankind has been on a mission for thousands of years to find a way to dominate life on the planet and as the technologies make it more possible the machinations grow more and more vicious.  The God of the Bible left "markers" in the form of prophecies by which believers could be aware that He IS who He says He is and to make them aware of the approximate time He would return.  Among those markers is the rebirth of Israel as a nation.  Specific mention is made of the nations that would try to destroy Israel and the outcome of those attempts.  All these markers will come to pass so that people will be without excuse of ignorance when these cataclysms begin falling on the planet.  IOW when these things happen and people STILL refuse to believe then they have made their choice.  The second coming will be at a time when nearly 2/3 of the earth's population has been wiped out by war, disease and starvation - all man made.  At current population that's about 5  billion people.  That process is supposed to take less than 7 years so nuclear war or some catastrophic cosmic event has to occur.  The key sign to set your watch by is a 7 year peace treaty with Israel.  Once it is signed Christ returns within 7 years.

[B Jenkins]

It aint going to happen in the fashion most the world anticipates imo.

[Habitat]

The notion of a dead prophet returning to bring peace to the world makes little sense to me. It would be reasonable to enquire why the task wasn't accomplished first time round. We even have Jesus recorded as saying he didn't come to bring peace to the world, but "a sword to divide", to break people away from their addiction to the ephemeralities of "the world", and turn them toward "the kingdom", the eternal and imperishable realm he relentlessly emphasised.

[the eternal me]

i like how this topic has gone.....
interesting perspectives...

I don’t think the doom and gloom aspect of it all has to happen though...
there is reasoning behind this and i will share later....

I got slammed with work and wanted to see how it had progressed so far....
ill be back later to share some of my thoughts...

keep em coming though....