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Can humanity afford a real life Star Trek ?


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#61    Hugh

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:08 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 28 May 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

We could probably do that eventually. Drop some comets and asteroids down to the surface. Sure it would tear the planet up and ruin the environement, such as it is, but within a realatively short time, we could start building parking lots. :tu:

I'm sure we'll figure out how to co-ordinate the intercepting orbital paths so that the impact velocity is minimized, but yeah, after the extra mass is added, (maybe even a few of Jupiter's moons could be used too), we could warp Mars over fully into the Goldilock's zone, set up a good atmosphere, then get a good ecosystem up and running adding life etc.

Then come the parking lots and launch pads. :tu:


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:16 PM

View PostSaru, on 23 May 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

The starships of the Star Trek universe seem a long way off both technologically and financially.

I agree. One country cannot afford such a space program even if the technologies were available. If I am not wrong, in Star Trek all the countries are united together under one single banner. It will take something similar here. If at least all the G12 were trusting each other and working togheter hand in hand then great things could be achieved.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:21 PM

Just saw Star Trek: Heart of Darkness this past weekend.

C'MON EARTH LET'S DO THIS!!

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 07:59 PM

View Postsam_comm, on 03 June 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:



I agree. One country cannot afford such a space program even if the technologies were available. If I am not wrong, in Star Trek all the countries are united together under one single banner. It will take something similar here. If at least all the G12 were trusting each other and working togheter hand in hand then great things could be achieved.

Star fleet started as a company.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:22 PM

View Postdanielost, on 03 June 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

Star fleet started as a company.

I don't know much about Star Trek, I've only seen some movies and a couple of episodes but according to Wikipedia, Starfleet was founded in the same time and maintained by The United Federation Of Planets in 2161.

So there was a planetary government on Earth when Starfleet was created.


Edited by sam_comm, 03 June 2013 - 08:23 PM.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:40 PM

View Postsam_comm, on 03 June 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:



I don't know much about Star Trek, I've only seen some movies and a couple of episodes but according to Wikipedia, Starfleet was founded in the same time and maintained by The United Federation Of Planets in 2161.

So there was a planetary government on Earth when Starfleet was created.


This is true.  But, in both serious they state point blank they are explores not military.  They may be like the post office or the irs.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:08 PM

That brings me back to my original point: The G12 countries needs to work together and trust each other in order to accomplish greater things for Humanity. We've The United Nations right now and while it is useful to debate and bring humanitarian helps in conflicts it fails to create a global force that push in the same direction. There is still too much ideological and religious bickering and treats of war. Each G12 contries prefer to do things their own ways, are worried about their own economies and often mistrust and spy upon each other. All that will have to change or at least significantly improve if humanity is to move forward in the futur. We seems far from that to be honest.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:26 PM

We have already had an internatonal coop.  We got the current space station out of it.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:02 AM

Though we could build a similar appearing ship.... we don't have artificial gravity to keep everyone on the deck, and we don't have anything super fast like warp-drive. Without those we might just as well not build it, because there is no reason. The exception IMHO, would be if Aliens were shown to be real. That would quickly unite mankiind and also require our world to build some ships for Defense. Also we'd have to assume the aliens would give us star-drive technology and spark our interest in exploration. Without the aliens/ETs there is no reason to build a defensive force or provide us with advanced technology.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:55 PM

As I said what we need is a modular ship.  This type of ship would not make a good warship nor should it have too.  We do have two space weapons in service right now in the us fleet.  A particle bam, feartered in the second transformer move, and a laser.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:09 PM

Wake up people!

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:15 PM

Not the irs video.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 11:26 AM

there's better things to do with $1 trillion... feed half the entire planet maybe?


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:34 PM

View Postbzykillnzombies, on 05 June 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

there's better things to do with $1 trillion... feed half the entire planet maybe?

Then what?
Feed them again?  and again?


At what point do you ensure the survival of the species by becoming interplanetary?
One good size asteroid and the human race is extinct.
But at least we fed the people who kept procreating even though they couldn't afford to feed themselves.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:16 PM

View Postbzykillnzombies, on 05 June 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

there's better things to do with $1 trillion... feed half the entire planet maybe?

The usa throws away enough food to feed the world.  If you add in what families and restraunts throw away maybe feed tge world twice.  Then the congress passed a law making us turn a percentage of the corn crop into fuel.

Some of the third world nations don't have the infrastrucher to get food from the docks to the people.  This includes the indian reservations that got government checks. Further if they borrow money from the imf, they can't spend it too makethings better for their peopl.  Then you have thedictators that use hungry to control the people.

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