325 replies to this topic

[Dale Larner]

JonathanVonErich, on 26 May 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

Thank you for your answer mr. Larner, I appreciate it.



Well I'm gonna buy the book if I know that you have solid evidences proving that your suspect could have committed the crimes, that's all I ( and everybody having an interest in this case ) want. Yourself, as a researcher, must admit that it takes a lot more than what you might "see" in a painting to accuse anybody of being a serial killer, right ?? Therefore it would be great if you could share a little more of what you have found.

Do you have strong evidences that Van Gogh was in London at the time the murders were committed ?? That's the entire case right there, you need to prove that Van Gogh was in London when the crimes were committed.

That's all I want to know, I won't bother you again with my questions.

The answer is—Yes, I have strong evidence Van Gogh was in London at the time the murders were committed.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Dale Larner]

csspwns, on 31 May 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

all i see is a pretty flower:) stop hating on van gogh

Sorry you can’t see the hidden images. Have you tried the videos? They offer a detailed description.

The Reveal Videos
http://vincentaliasjack.com/wordpress/?page_id=137

I know it’s difficult to set aside the well-established image of Van Gogh, but that image is a false one. Therefore, I’m afraid I’ll have to keep hating on Van Gogh, since he was actually a serial killer.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[billyf]

sorry to say, but i think you might be reaching a bit. i can see how the images are sort of similar but i think you could find all kinds of "clues" like this in many other paintings(not done by van gogh) if you try hard enough.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Dale Larner, on 01 June 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:

The answer is—Yes, I have strong evidence Van Gogh was in London at the time the murders were committed.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

What is it?

[Rlyeh]

Wearer of Hats, on 02 June 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

What is it?

You have to buy the book...

[Dale Larner]

JonathanVonErich, on 30 May 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Hey Larner

Is it too much to ask for REAL EVIDENCES !???

The fact you don't want to share anything but what you "see" in the painting is highly suspicious, if you were a serious researcher you would have shared a timeline showing Van Gogh was in London when the murders were committed, results from the handwriting analysis, something real and solid.

If you can't prove that Van Gogh was in London at the time the murders were committed, if the handwriting doesn't match then you have nothing, absolutely nothing.

If your book is published ( that's a big if ) and you have nothing more than what is allegedly hidden in the painting, then I think you should be sued for accusing an innocent man of being a serial killer. Accusing somebody of being a murderer without having evidences is a crime, and if I was a relative of Van Gogh I would sue you and your publisher for everything you have.

If indeed you have no evidences against Van Gogh other than what you have allegedly found in the painting then you are an awful researcher and your book should not be published. Accusing somebody of being a murderer without any kind of evidences is a crime, just remember that.

Have good evidence Van Gogh was in London.
The handwriting matches.
Have much more than the hidden images—I wrote a book.
More detailed book and deeper research than you are assuming.
800 page book, 1180 Endnotes, 70 Bibliography entries.
No concern about lawsuit—Van Gogh was a serial killer.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Rlyeh, on 02 June 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

You have to buy the book...

As shilling for sales is against the forum rules, Dale ponying up with some information would help conversation.

Edited by Wearer of Hats, 03 June 2012 - 05:03 AM.

[DKO]

Dale Larner, on 30 May 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

The hidden images are just the beginning. Uncovering them unlocked the hidden life of Van Gogh. The significance of the hidden images is greater than you know, and they present an awesome piece of evidence.

However, because you think I’m suffering from delusions and seeing things that are not there, I must let you know that the book is jam packed with evidence of Van Gogh’s guilt and matches between his life and Jack the Ripper’s. The hidden images are just one piece of the larger puzzle.

I can only hope that some day I’ll be cured of my condition. Thanks for pointing it out again. Perhaps I should seek professional help.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

Pareidolia isn't a disease or condition that some people develop, everyone's brains work like that. You don't need professional help. It's only bad when you combine it with a over-active imagination.

[Rlyeh]

Wearer of Hats, on 03 June 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

As shilling for sales is against the forum rules, Dale ponying up with some information would help conversation.

It has to be in his book, because the evidence he's presented here is complete crap.

[Dale Larner]

xCrimsonx, on 31 May 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

Van Gogh was fighting his own demons most of his life, he didn't have the capacity, time or persona to pull it off. He painted beauty.,. Like a poet his fears, woes and experience shone through in his paintings a perfect  balance of reality, beautiful but potentially ugly. We see what our minds manifest, and not always what the artist visioned as he was creating it.

That’s all well and good, but creating beauty is not reserved only for the pure at heart, and Van Gogh’s own words provide that he did have the capacity, time, and persona to commit the murders.

For years we have seen only what Van Gogh wanted us to see, both in his paintings and in his life, but now we can see what he actually envisioned at the time. But actually, he did want others to eventually see the reality of his paintings. He wrote the following to his sister soon after completing the Irises painting:

“I should like to paint portraits which would appear after a century to the people living then as apparitions."

A century has passed, and now we can see the apparitions.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Englishgent]

Dale Larner, on 04 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

That’s all well and good, but creating beauty is not reserved only for the pure at heart, and Van Gogh’s own words provide that he did have the capacity, time, and persona to commit the murders.

For years we have seen only what Van Gogh wanted us to see, both in his paintings and in his life, but now we can see what he actually envisioned at the time. But actually, he did want others to eventually see the reality of his paintings. He wrote the following to his sister soon after completing the Irises painting:

“I should like to paint portraits which would appear after a century to the people living then as apparitions."

A century has passed, and now we can see the apparitions.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

I think you may find that what he meant with those words is the same as most artists feel about their work. That it is never good enough.  Maybe I am wrong and you are right. Try checking with a few art critics or somebody who has studied this artists life and see what they think of your theories.
What you are seeing are not 'apparitions'   It is par.......oh nevermind

[Dale Larner]

DKO, on 03 June 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

Pareidolia isn't a disease or condition that some people develop, everyone's brains work like that. You don't need professional help. It's only bad when you combine it with a over-active imagination.

Oh, I disagree. If my over-active imagination led me to find hidden images in a Van Gogh painting that were only imaginary, and I then spent more than five years writing an 800 page book based on the initial discovery of the imaginary images, I think I would need professional help--and likely some strong medication too.

Thanks for making me feel like I might be normal.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[DKO]

Dale Larner, on 05 June 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

Oh, I disagree. If my over-active imagination led me to find hidden images in a Van Gogh painting that were only imaginary, and I then spent more than five years writing an 800 page book based on the initial discovery of the imaginary images, I think I would need professional help--and likely some strong medication too.

Thanks for making me feel like I might be normal.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

Your words, not mine.

[Dale Larner]

Wearer of Hats, on 03 June 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

As shilling for sales is against the forum rules, Dale ponying up with some information would help conversation.

Ok, here’s some info matching Van Gogh to his murders. For these murders, like a lot of serial killers, Vincent had his mother in mind. Four London murder victims were discovered just before and on his mother's Sept. 10 birthday:

Sept. 5, 1873
At 20, his first murder, just four months after transferring to London.

Sept. 8, 1888
15 yrs. later, his third Jack the Ripper murder.

Sept. 8, 1888
Another murder on the same night, but as himself, as in, not acting as Jack the Ripper.

Sept. 10, 1889
His final murder as both himself and as Jack the Ripper, depositing a woman's headless and legless body in Whitechapel on his mother's 70th birthday!

Vincent van Gogh was Jack the Ripper!

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Night Walker]

Dale Larner, on 06 June 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

Ok, here’s some info matching Van Gogh to his murders. For these murders, like a lot of serial killers, Vincent had his mother in mind. Four London murder victims were discovered just before and on his mother's Sept. 10 birthday:

Sept. 5, 1873
At 20, his first murder, just four months after transferring to London.

Sept. 8, 1888
15 yrs. later, his third Jack the Ripper murder.

Sept. 8, 1888
Another murder on the same night, but as himself, as in, not acting as Jack the Ripper.

Sept. 10, 1889
His final murder as both himself and as Jack the Ripper, depositing a woman's headless and legless body in Whitechapel on his mother's 70th birthday!

Vincent van Gogh was Jack the Ripper!

Thanks,
Dale Larner

None of this is evidence that Van Gogh was Jack the Ripper. The only tangible evidence you have supplied - the supposed hidden images in the paintings - is proof of pareidolia.

Dale Larner, on 05 June 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

If my over-active imagination led me to find hidden images in a Van Gogh painting that were only imaginary, and I then spent more than five years writing an 800 page book based on the initial discovery of the imaginary images, I think I would need professional help--and likely some strong medication too.

Thanks for making me feel like I might be normal.

You are aware that crazy people rarely know when they are being crazy, right?