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[Br Cornelius]

Yamato, on 09 October 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

Competition and innovation in the free market.

Innovation usually comes at a price premium.
Competition cannot overcome the inflationary aspect of a currency lent into existence at interest.

Br Cornelius

[acidhead]

Innovation is the result of Competition.

[Br Cornelius]

acidhead, on 10 October 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

Innovation is the result of Competition.

Innovation can exist in the absence of competition. Innovation is generally driven by the desire to charge premium rates. Competition lowers the price of static products.

Br Cornelius

[Yamato]

Br Cornelius, on 09 October 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Innovation usually comes at a price premium.
Competition cannot overcome the inflationary aspect of a currency lent into existence at interest.

Br Cornelius

All you do is make statements.  I'm a how and why guy.  I need explanations, not blind sheep denials.

[Yamato]

Br Cornelius, on 10 October 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Innovation can exist in the absence of competition. Innovation is generally driven by the desire to charge premium rates. Competition lowers the price of static products.

Br Cornelius

Provide examples of innovation in the absence of competition.

"Static products"?

[questionmark]

Yamato, on 10 October 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

"Static products"?

US made toaster 1950s

US made Toaster 1960



US made toaster 1970:

And US made toaster 1980:










By then everybody was buying Japanese or European 'cause they were tired of the same old and inefficient models.

[Yamato]

questionmark, on 11 October 2012 - 07:05 AM, said:

US made toaster 1950s

US made Toaster 1960



US made toaster 1970:

And US made toaster 1980:










By then everybody was buying Japanese or European 'cause they were tired of the same old and inefficient models.

So competition works then, and when people get tired of the same old things they demand new and more exciting things.  Imagine that.   There's no absence of competition there.  That is competition.

[acidhead]

Static products occur in any market regardless if it global or Nation and State level... don't allow a doubter to deceive you...   What's important is competition.  It's what drives humanity.  It always has and it always will be.

[Br Cornelius]

acidhead, on 12 October 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

Static products occur in any market regardless if it global or Nation and State level... don't allow a doubter to deceive you...   What's important is competition.  It's what drives humanity.  It always has and it always will be.

Many things drive humanity - competition is just one of them. Ask a mother what motivates her - it is rarely competition.

Many of the problems in the world are caused by excessive competition and to little cooperation.

I don't buy the social-Darwinist interpretation of mankind.

Br Cornelius

[acidhead]

Br Cornelius, on 12 October 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

Many things drive humanity - competition is just one of them. Ask a mother what motivates her - it is rarely competition.

Many of the problems in the world are caused by excessive competition and to little cooperation.

I don't buy the social-Darwinist interpretation of mankind.

Br Cornelius

Good grief man.....you walked right into that one..... a mother is motivated by her own personal interests.... no different than a business is motivated by its own interests too.

Edited by acidhead, 13 October 2012 - 02:26 AM.

[Br Cornelius]

acidhead, on 13 October 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

Good grief man.....you walked right into that one..... a mother is motivated by her own personal interests.... no different than a business is motivated by its own interests too.

You really don't actually understand how people function. Altruism is one of the strongest human instincts - because we are a genetically adapted social creature. Studies have shown that people frequently choose the most socially beneficial option - even when it is not in their immediate self interest.  

It is a gross perversion of the human spirit to say that it all boils down to competition.

Br Cornelius

[acidhead]

Br Cornelius, on 13 October 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

You really don't actually understand how people function. Altruism is one of the strongest human instincts - because we are a genetically adapted social creature. Studies have shown that people frequently choose the most socially beneficial option - even when it is not in their immediate self interest.  

It is a gross perversion of the human spirit to say that it all boils down to competition.

Br Cornelius

dude... those same studies

altruism is a debatable subject... true motives to help others exists when the individual can take care of himself first.... you know that

what came first?  the chicken or the egg?   lol

Edited by acidhead, 18 October 2012 - 07:27 AM.

[Br Cornelius]

acidhead, on 18 October 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

dude... those same studies

altruism is a debatable subject... true motives to help others exists when the individual can take care of himself first.... you know that

what came first?  the chicken or the egg?   lol

People are rarely in a situation where it is a life and death decision - and even when they are they often choose the most altruistic outcome of any situation.

Social Darwinism is a stinking pile of bull**** dreamt up by some right wing extremist to jack off to.

Br Cornelius

Edited by Br Cornelius, 18 October 2012 - 08:03 AM.

[acidhead]

Br Cornelius, on 18 October 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

People are rarely in a situation where it is a life and death decision - and even when they are they often choose the most altruistic outcome of any situation.

Social Darwinism is a stinking pile of bull**** dreamt up by some right wing extremist to jack off to.

Br Cornelius

I think you over estimate man.

Allow me... If you were a parent and 10 children were in grave danger of dying and 9 of them were yours and only 9 could be saved.. who would you save?

[Br Cornelius]

acidhead, on 18 October 2012 - 08:15 AM, said:

I think you over estimate man.

Allow me... If you were a parent and 10 children were in grave danger of dying and 9 of them were yours and only 9 could be saved.. who would you save?

When you have a meaningful question get back to me.

Br Cornelius