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#1    Hilander

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

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(CBS News) Is the U.S. Constitution truly worthy of the reverence in which most Americans hold it? A view on that from Louis Michael Seidman, Professor of Constitutional Law at Georgetown University:

I've got a simple idea: Let's give up on the Constitution.
I know, it sounds radical, but it's really not. Constitutional disobedience is as American as apple pie.
For example, most of our greatest Presidents -- Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, and both Roosevelts -- had doubts about the Constitution, and many of them disobeyed it when it got in their way.

Professor: Take our country back, from the Constitution

Don't think I would want to do this.  I can just imagine what things would be like if it wasn't for the constitution.  I think those old guys that wrote it knew what they were doing.  I think if they knew what was going on now and in the past they would roll over in their graves.  Because even with those rights we are still losing them bit by bit or they are being regulated out of existence.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

So, we get rid of the constitution to replace it with what exactly?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:09 PM

No comment. Just a bad idea.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:02 PM

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

Constituion V2.0

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

I thought updates went 1.1...1.2...1.3 etc until theres an expansion then its called 2.0 Oh crap are we gonna pay for a new expansion as well ?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 27 January 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

So, we get rid of the constitution to replace it with what exactly?
Government fiat, i.e. exactly what you've been agreeing with for all these years.

Edited by Yamato, 27 January 2013 - 10:29 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

What do you expect from a President that mastered the art of "Community Organizing" and became a Constitutional authority and Proffessor?  Obama is not following the constitution, he is ripping it up by showing all of us just how easy it is to go around any issue in his way by ignoring or actually violating the Oath of office that he took to protect, defend and preserve our constitution.

Obama is nothing but an "Occupy" President.  Obama says we have no spending problem!!!!!  Cool, lets just spend another 6 trillion dollars over the next 4 years that we do not have and must borrow.  The prime motivation of a community organizer is to "take down the man".  Obama's prime motivation as president is not to deal with problems, hell, we have no problems...but rather to make the congress moot and obsolete.  Obama is a one man wrecking crew and rewriting the constitution in a more progressive manner is his real dream.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:12 PM

This articles a few weeks old, at least the news is. Anyhow, this guy is a tool of the progressive system. He's studied and taught it all these years only to have the epiphany that its useless. It may be getting trampled all over but it is still the only thing stopping anyone from completely revoking it. The constitution is special, purposeful and a model exhibit for the entire world and those who choose freedom. Without it, anything goes and that means anything.
This is also further proof of what's happening at the universities with the progressive agenda. A constitutional law professor who teaches all about it only to conclude that it should be revoked. Goes in line with the old saying- know your friends but know your enemies better.
Constitution= enemy of progressivism

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 27 January 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

So, we get rid of the constitution to replace it with what exactly?

They could replace it with an updated version - Constitution 2.0  New additional data - Teach the importance of the constitution in all US schools  ..

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 27 January 2013 - 10:18 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 27 January 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

So, we get rid of the constitution to replace it with what exactly?
Oh, "they'll" make that up as they go along.  They're from the government - they're just here to help......
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 27 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:



They could replace it with an updated version - Constitution 2.0  New additional data - Teach the importance of the constitution in all US schools  ..
That almost sounds ok but Constitution 2.0 is a constitution by name only and could contain anything at all. It still isn't Thee Constitution which is the one that counts and is the most righteous. Constitution 2.0 as you are probably thinking is something we can already do. It's called adding and repealing amendments which is purposefully a nightmare of a hard time to do.
I like your last thought but it must be said that teaching it is simply too vague and up to too much interpretive nonsense. This guy is teaching it all right. Then he's telling all the fresh young minds that it probably needs to go. Gets in the way of things. Yep, that's the point though professor. There is an amendment process that is supposed to impede immediate change concerning deadly serious country changing issues that become supreme law of the land. So teaching it isn't enough. The importance, the meaning, the how's, when's and whys, the need to preserve and respect it and to never ever want to get rid of it need to be instilled.
That said, I'm not sure teaching the constitution needs to be a constitutional amendment so much as a standard academic curriculum but I appreciate the angle you're coming from.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 27 January 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

. The importance, the meaning, the how's, when's and whys, the need to preserve and respect it and to never ever want to get rid of it need to be instilled.
That said, I'm not sure teaching the constitution needs to be a constitutional amendment so much as a standard academic curriculum but I appreciate the angle you're coming from.

The bolded part is what I meant
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

I knew that. As I said, I appreciate your angle. It's becoming clearer where you stand on American issues. Glad we can help you figure that out.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:32 AM

You do not have the right to "ignore" the constitution as the OP suggests.
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