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[Coffey]

questionmark, on 03 August 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

If I may correct you: You did not post any evidence, you posted a big piece of brain maxturbation that is but a waste of bandwidth. To show that the certificate is false you must have the original first. Everything else is pure bool krappy.

Wrong.

The video and the other million videos and articles ont he internet proves it is fake. It wouldn't layered if it was fake.

The numbers from 1 layer aren't even the same style of text as the numbers form the other. If you can't see that then there is no point even replying to me. lol

It's a just basic knowledge of image editing.

Edited by Coffey, 03 August 2012 - 08:41 PM.

[Capt Amerika]

So, His dad was a goat herder?
Funny, He ended up being a Sheeple herder for the Democratic party.

[questionmark]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Wrong.

The video and the other million videos and articles ont he internet proves it is fake. It wouldn't layered if it was fake.

It's a just basic knowledge of image editing.

That video is NOT from the original as the author of the video claims himself. It is a copy from something that either Obama's office gave out (doubtful, they would have scanned it better) or a photo that one of the reporters took at the press conference. That proves nothing, or at least it proves less than Hawaii officially saying he was born there.

But you may keep on believing in the Easter Goose if that makes you happy.

[questionmark]

Capt Amerika, on 03 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

So, His dad was a goat herder?
Funny, He ended up being a Sheeple herder for the Democratic party.

That might be true, but still better than sending the guy that will loose for sure in a relentless cacophony of dissenting voices in the own party.

[Coffey]

questionmark, on 03 August 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

That video is NOT from the original as the author of the video claims himself. It is a copy from something that either Obama's office gave out (doubtful, they would have scanned it better) or a photo that one of the reporters took at the press conference. That proves nothing, or at least it proves less than Hawaii officially saying he was born there.

But you may keep on believing in the Easter Goose if that makes you happy.

His office gave out to prove he was born there....

Which proves it is fake, he would have had to allow his office to send it out, which proves he knew it was fake.

Also the moment this starting getting a lot of attention about it being fake.... Osama was assassinated etc and that covered the headlines. Shame the US media won't report on how it was the CIA and US government who trained him and supplied him with weapons. to fight the Russians. The pictures would make great headlines for the patriotic Americans to see. lol

[TrueBeliever]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Are you serious? Because I read about this and seen loads of people miss the point of the video and some not even bother watching it, then posted evidence that he had released a fake birth certificate. I don't even know why i bother to be honest. Most Americans are so deluded by their patriotism that they take everything their government or media says as gospel. They are also to scared to even question heir government. lol

That that part I do care about. The government is meant to fear the people not the other way around. Carry on living in a bubble and making the rich richer.

I agree that many Americans are deluded by patriotism....and too many believe everything the media and govt says........it was the media, Fox News  that was one source pushing the birther movement! I mean hello? knock knock anyone home?  My point is there is no proof he is NOT American citizen and we have important issues to deal with...all the petty stuff distracts people.

Im sick of the rich getting richer because we the middle class foot the damn bill at a higher percentage then them! Romney isnt going to release anymore tax forms! Everybody 'knows' he doesnt pay his fair show and leeches off the govt.....which he says is wrong.....and Obama doesnt care about me anymore than Romney does! But back to my point......the whole birther thing was/is ridiculous!!! can you not see that?

[questionmark]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

His office gave out to prove he was born there....

Which proves it is fake, he would have had to allow his office to send it out, which proves he knew it was fake.

Also the moment this starting getting a lot of attention about it being fake.... Osama was assassinated etc and that covered the headlines. Shame the US media won't report on how it was the CIA and US government who trained him and supplied him with weapons. to fight the Russians. The pictures would make great headlines for the patriotic Americans to see. lol

OK, show me that that document was not from a photo, because I can show you how the original looked, been all over the press:


Now show me where that image is layered.

[Coffey]

TrueBeliever, on 03 August 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

I agree that many Americans are deluded by patriotism....and too many believe everything the media and govt says........it was the media, Fox News  that was one source pushing the birther movement! I mean hello? knock knock anyone home?  My point is there is no proof he is NOT American citizen and we have important issues to deal with...all the petty stuff distracts people.

Im sick of the rich getting richer because we the middle class foot the damn bill at a higher percentage then them! Romney isnt going to release anymore tax forms! Everybody 'knows' he doesnt pay his fair show and leeches off the govt.....which he says is wrong.....and Obama doesnt care about me anymore than Romney does! But back to my point......the whole birther thing was/is ridiculous!!! can you not see that?

I'm not saying I don't see it. lol

All i'm saying is that thta birth certificate IS fake and that isn't right that they released it. That is all. I don't have an opinion on where he was born, cause I don't care. lol All i know is the certificate is fake.

My other point was only pointing out the "point" of the video as most people seemed to miss the point. A point I don't believe or care about. I was just more concerned that Americans could watch the video and not even understand the point of it. lol

[Coffey]

questionmark, on 03 August 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

OK, show me that that document was not from a photo, because I can show you how the original looked, been all over the press:


Now show me where that image is layered.

I don't have photoshop on my computer anymore as I use my computer for music production and it's a resource hog. All you have to do is open in Photoshop and probably other programs and it will have layers. Which means it's not a copy of 1 image but many edited to make 1 image. Don't understand how you don't understand that?

Anyone on here who uses photoshop can do it. I'm sure someone will.

(the many videos on youtube show the layers of that image)

Edited by Coffey, 03 August 2012 - 08:58 PM.

[TrueBeliever]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

I'm not saying I don't see it. lol

All i'm saying is that thta birth certificate IS fake and that isn't right that they released it. That is all. I don't have an opinion on where he was born, cause I don't care. lol All i know is the certificate is fake.

My other point was only pointing out the "point" of the video as most people seemed to miss the point. A point I don't believe or care about. I was just more concerned that Americans could watch the video and not even understand the point of it. lol

I understand what you are saying.....I just dont have the original copy, and I have no reason to not believe the state of Hawaii(I was born in Honolulu, a wonderful place:) )

[Socio]

TrueBeliever, on 03 August 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

the state of Hawaii verifies he was born there.......if you need to believe in conspiracies feel free but some of us have better things to do!

Yes but proof of birth apparently could be purchased back then;

http://gunnyg.wordpr...h-certificates/

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Mike Zullo, a retired New Jersey detective now heading Arpaio’s volunteer investigative team, explained in an interview that at the time of Obama’s birth during the state’s early years, Hawaii birth documentation routinely was purchased by foreigners for children not born in the state.

Sun Yat-sen was able to obtain and and become a citizen of the US  as early as 1904;

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Sun_Yat-sen

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According to Lee Yun-ping, chairman of the Chinese historical society, Sun needed a certificate to enter the United States at a time when the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 would have otherwise blocked him.^[39] But on Sun's first attempt to enter the US, he was still arrested.^[39] He was later bailed out after 17 days.^[39] In March 1904, Sun Yat-sen obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,^[40] issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on 24 November 1870 in Kula, Maui.^[41] Official files of the United States show that Sun had United States nationality,

So maybe Obama was and just maybe he wasn't.

Edited by Socio, 03 August 2012 - 09:43 PM.

[Coffey]

TrueBeliever, on 03 August 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

I understand what you are saying.....I just dont have the original copy, and I have no reason to not believe the state of Hawaii(I was born in Honolulu, a wonderful place:) )

That's lovely, did you grow up there as well? Would be a wonderful place to be brought up.

I'm not saying Hawaii is lying. I doubt they would myself. I'm only saying i have no interest in that part. I just know thta his office released a fake to the public which is I find dishonest and in a way mocking of the general public.

[TrueBeliever]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

That's lovely, did you grow up there as well? Would be a wonderful place to be brought up.

I'm not saying Hawaii is lying. I doubt they would myself. I'm only saying i have no interest in that part. I just know thta his office released a fake to the public which is I find dishonest and in a way mocking of the general public.

No I wasnt raised there, I was an Army brat:)  Would have loved to though! lol

[Gummug]

Coffey, on 03 August 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

My other point was only pointing out the "point" of the video as most people seemed to miss the point. A point I don't believe or care about. I was just more concerned that Americans could watch the video and not even understand the point of it. lol

That's what I noticed too...especially the early posters, seemed to post without even watching the OP's film clip. They evidently thought the title of the thread was the purpose of the thread....not even close imo.

[Coffey]

Gummug, on 03 August 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

That's what I noticed too...especially the early posters, seemed to post without even watching the OP's film clip. They evidently thought the title of the thread was the purpose of the thread....not even close imo.

Exactly, people amaze me sometimes. lol

Edited by Coffey, 03 August 2012 - 11:14 PM.