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#1    CommunitarianKevin

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

Question for Repubs...

So Repubs constantly call Obama a bad leader and uncompromising. So my question is what could he do to change your opinion of him? Answers such as "put a bullet threw his head," resign, or agree with Repubs will be taken as "there is nothing he can do to change my opinion."

So let's hear it...what can he do?

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:41 PM

I asked a Democrat, not too long ago, if there was anything Obama could do to make them think he wasn't perfect. I didn't get an answer. :P

I'm not a Republican so I won't answer.


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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMichelle, on 01 November 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

I asked a Democrat, not too long ago, if there was anything Obama could do to make them think he wasn't perfect. I didn't get an answer. :P

I'm not a Republican so I won't answer.

Okay, if you are against Obama, you can answer...

I will give you an answer...
He could do something like he did with the NDAA...
Oh, I guess he isn't perfect...
Oh well, I still like him better, or rather the D after his name, better than the other options...

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:58 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 01 November 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Okay, if you are against Obama, you can answer...

I will give you an answer...
He could do something like he did with the NDAA...

That's it??? :unsure2:

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostMichelle, on 01 November 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

That's it??? :unsure2:

Sorry, I don't have time to play now.

What? I do not agree with the NDAA. I think it is a horrible thing. That clearly makes him not perfect. That clearly shows he does not represent my view on every point and that I do not accept his. How is that difficult for you to understand?

I cannot speak for everyone in my party, but I do not pray to Obama before I go to bed at night...
I am just a Liberal...I prefer the Democrat platform...It doesn't make every Dem perfect...
It goes the same for the other side...I do not hate every Repub. I do not dislike McCain and I respect Gingrich...but I do not agree with their platform...

Edited by HuttonEtAl, 01 November 2012 - 09:06 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:12 PM

I may have more to say later, but this came to mind first:

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 01 November 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

I may have more to say later, but this came to mind first:

Corporal 'Stitch' Jones: Don't go away angry. Just... just go away. You've been told.

:unsure2:  (confused smiley)

Edited by HuttonEtAl, 01 November 2012 - 10:43 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:36 PM

View PostMichelle, on 01 November 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

That's it??? :unsure2:

Sorry, I don't have time to play now.

Well you asked for an example and he gave you one. How many examples are you looking for?

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:58 PM

View PostCorp, on 01 November 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Well you asked for an example and he gave you one. How many examples are you looking for?

Well, I have a pretty long list, such as expanding the Patriot Act and the TSA intrusions...not shutting down Gitmo, making it possible to hold American citizens indefinitely without trial if accused of terrorism....

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:33 AM

View PostMichelle, on 01 November 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Well, I have a pretty long list, such as expanding the Patriot Act and the TSA intrusions...not shutting down Gitmo, making it possible to hold American citizens indefinitely without trial if accused of terrorism....

I gave you an answer. You asked for one and you got it. Sure, he extended the Partriot Act, a Repub policy...sure, he didn't shut down Gitmo (he wanted to, but didn't happen.) Like I said, the guy isn't perfect. I gave you the answer you wanted to hear, but still...it is not enough...

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:00 AM



Obama has done enough!

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:10 AM

This came to me in an email just today.  It checks out from snopes.  What more can he do?


BEST SUMMATION OF BARACK AND MICHELLE EVER

Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles .

The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's? Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."

The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I've made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.

   I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America . They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous.

I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress. I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people. The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. His arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?

Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.

I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to now being able too be proud of America . I view that statement and that mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world. Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same.

I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No president in history has spent over a million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

   And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel . His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.

I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.

Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

It is my intention to do all within my ability to ensure their reign is one term. I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.

As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequaled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood... Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America 's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed."

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:26 AM

Oh my. Pot looks at Kettle and says "Loser!"

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:41 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 02 November 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:


Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles .


only in his own mind. :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:38 AM

View Postninjadude, on 02 November 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

only in his own mind. :rolleyes:

Anything to add about as to why he isn't?





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