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[Agent. Mulder]

zombeikiller, on 24 September 2010 - 05:15 AM, said:

I could tell u how to make a true vampire. the truth is that a true  vampires can exsist if u make it exsist. AKA Gentic enginearing.  make what u want and make it happen. look at the blood drinking bat. it needs blood to survive. which is explaned but i don't want to look it up at all.  but aging the so caled immortallity serum which cna be made. but u can still die. if shot. or sikeness. but there's many things i have studyed and immortallity is one of them. and it is a possibllity. oh and myths come from legends that come from stroys which are from truth. like romeo and julleit. that stry was to be based of of a legend of two lovers and in 2008 they found the bodys of both of those lovers with a dagger and a cup in one of there hands. burried togheter. now i tell u this. u can't say if its true or not. if u look for it then it will eventully show. if u desire it then it will show.  now that u metion it. i could be considered a mind sapping vampir. one that can cause mental harm. but i don't feel anything when i do so. LOL just kiding or am I? one cannot truely estimate the impact if they found out that the goverment is studing vampieism. or how to make a supersolder from such research. i point u to the nazi rageim of hitler. 25 years far move advanced then any othere nation back then. with many supernatuale expriments one which was for a super solder that can fight for him. some of the research which are still hidden and not found of yet to date. with vage stroys about the locaton of such research faccilitys. it is possible aging to make a vampier and a possible immortallity serum. and if u say such negative things u will never know if its true or not. if u look for it if u seek it u will find it. if in the best case or the worst case u will find it. if u get up and look. no one will do it for u. look for it in scriptures and in old books. which alot where burned or destoryed by the nazis in europe.

No. To everything you said.

[zombeikiller]

Agent. Mulder, on 24 September 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

No. To everything you said.

I knew u would say that. but u don't know till u try. and bioenginery and gentic engineraingcan make it possible or make a zombie virues that wipes us all out.
did u even read it. and aging u critize me of what i try to say. and i have not once critized any thing u said. i just ask u qestions. it is possible if u want to get to the most darkess secreats of life. of which expriments like these are infact and possible bing conductedby crazy made sientis. in places of the world that are secluded but have plenty of test subjects to work with.

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@zombeikiller

Do you have a source for anything you claimed? Any link to a website or a book or a periodical that can back up the statements you have made here?

[Agent. Mulder]

zombeikiller, on 24 September 2010 - 01:54 PM, said:

I knew u would say that. but u don't know till u try. and bioenginery and gentic engineraingcan make it possible or make a zombie virues that wipes us all out.
did u even read it. and aging u critize me of what i try to say. and i have not once critized any thing u said. i just ask u qestions. it is possible if u want to get to the most darkess secreats of life. of which expriments like these are infact and possible bing conductedby crazy made sientis. in places of the world that are secluded but have plenty of test subjects to work with.

Highly, Highly doubt that. But, guess it depends on your definition of 'virus'. But maybe you can elaborate on that, and tell me how exactly it would be a vampiric virus that could infect people and wipe them out.
Its not criticizing, its just my opinion on what youre saying. Theres no evidence for any of it.
You can say that about anything though. "Well, its possible people are doing "x", somewhere, at sometime" etc. Theres nothing backing it up though. Its just conjecture.

[zombeikiller]

Agent. Mulder, on 24 September 2010 - 02:20 PM, said:

Highly, Highly doubt that. But, guess it depends on your definition of 'virus'. But maybe you can elaborate on that, and tell me how exactly it would be a vampiric virus that could infect people and wipe them out.
Its not criticizing, its just my opinion on what youre saying. Theres no evidence for any of it.
You can say that about anything though. "Well, its possible people are doing "x", somewhere, at sometime" etc. Theres nothing backing it up though. Its just conjecture.

that was theright answer. to what i said befor. it's just conjecture. and ther is almost nothing backing it up. but there are virues u can manipulate. and there re parsites that can hurt u. and thats why revers engnering things is a common thing. and is not illegal. to what i know of gentics. which should be substanual.  if i would look at leech and see how it lives and why it lives on blood of other animales and use that blood for energy and incorarate it into a human where they need blood to survive but are sill mortal.  would be a outstandingfind but bad if the person needs itn a daily baseis. and to make it where it's like it's own lood type like the ab lood type and can asorball other blood types but will be rejected by the any thing else. or wasthinking of o blood. but if one was too make it where they can stay alive or even regnerate wounds a little faster and keep them alive forever untl one was to kill them. and have this blood cell/ viruesr there is a virues that kills ur orgins and body tissue and one was to reverse enginer it and let it reguvina and keep ur body from aging any further then there one solution sovled. and combie the leech blood dna nd rna and cobie it with some human dna and the reversed enginred virues and make it where it caccept and needs human blood to a extent but give ithere it can eat normal food. and lets say this exstent of blood helps ur body out by useing theet s a ndlethat can suck the blood up into ones vanes. and le say if the thing was to be like the steamcells it qickly adpts to ur body and mutaes into a new blood type. and ny one winject with this will have the sae bllod type as the otherone who was enjected. and it will be rejected in any ot human body after it turns into this new cell that quickly takes over the blood stream. d multiplys. there much i still need to figuer o on it. but it is close to my maen gaol. a immortallity serum. take out the lecche ad jsut reverse the virues and trun it into a new blood cell and some other things. and there. will that also exlan what i said earlier? i he so. but i doupt it. but nice answer. oh and i n't tell u where i get my resrch from. bu u could look it up on bing or google or yahoo or ask. or s books about things like this. un know hard things that most peoplewon't be able to understand if not read carefllt word for word. and agng some alot some of these are theory i made. i don't think i'm the only one researching on things like this. who nds college if u got books and the internet. if i can read what it says and find out most of the meanings i can then expriment. on paper of course. i don't havelab and those very expensive equptment. and i don't want to be the one that starts a zombie epademic. or a new virues that kills us all. though blood and who would be stupided  nough to be a ginie pig except tribly poeple in africa.

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zombeikiller

You are combining about 10 different sciences and picking bits out of each that sound cool and trying to piece together parts that fit into your idea of how things should work. This is basically creative fiction, what you are writing here. There's no basis on any real science. None of what you have said is a real possibility...

[zombeikiller]

Paul Dangerously, on 24 September 2010 - 03:44 PM, said:

zombeikiller

You are combining about 10 different sciences and picking bits out of each that sound cool and trying to piece together parts that fit into your idea of how things should work. This is basically creative fiction, what you are writing here. There's no basis on any real science. None of what you have said is a real possibility...

how do u know. whats possible. are u a sientis. do u stud tis or any thing else. and no. im not puting thingthat soucool into this. this is also possible and its crazy to do. unless u try how would u know. are u a genti engnere. tell e how can u back up cm that it is npossible. neither of us will win this debout unless some one try to make what i said. look it up. study up on gentics. thafter u read each document u can find find a gentisis and ask  if its possble on what i said. creative. yes. fiction. no. did u know that they said that space travle was not possibleat first. and why was germany 25 year more advance then ny of the other countrys of the time. because of people like me. who have a ideal. also hitler was trying to make a supersolder. now i tl u this don't say it's impossibe unless u try to make it first.

[Agent. Mulder]

zombeikiller, on 24 September 2010 - 04:03 PM, said:

how do u know. whats possible. are u a sientis. do u stud tis or any thing else. and no. im not puting thingthat soucool into this. this is also possible and its crazy to do. unless u try how would u know. are u a genti engnere. tell e how can u back up cm that it is npossible. neither of us will win this debout unless some one try to make what i said. look it up. study up on gentics. thafter u read each document u can find find a gentisis and ask  if its possble on what i said. creative. yes. fiction. no. did u know that they said that space travle was not possibleat first. and why was germany 25 year more advance then ny of the other countrys of the time. because of people like me. who have a ideal. also hitler was trying to make a supersolder. now i tl u this don't say it's impossibe unless u try to make it first.

I was in class when i read yours, but i think paul basically summed up everything nicely there.
Much of what youre talking about doesnt make sense, as in some cases youre saying a virus could be created which alters who we are as beings (physically) in order for us to magically evolve into something else, and need something else. Thats not how it works.
We can more or less "back it up", by the fact that you cannot back up anything you say, and are picking and grabbing things randomly and trying to combine them into one idea.
I assume youve read up on genetics, to prove your idea?
Who said space travel wasnt possible? Id like a name please. But even still, thats such an old out dated cop out answer "Well, some people USE to think the world was flat, so..."
Hitler didnt make a super soldier.

[apriltricks]

No one needs to try and make stuff to prove that it isn't possible. By defination if its impossible how the hell would you go about making it. We say certain things are impossible based on what we know. Space travel was considered impossible because we just didn't have the capabilities yet. At the moment what your claiming is impossible, I don't know about the future, but I doubt it'd happen. Also english may be your second language, but please use the enter button. A spell check and some capitalization would be nice. Just to make it easier to read.

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also hitler was trying to make a supersolder. now i tl u this don't say it's impossibe unless u try to make it first.  

Please god tell me you're not looking up to Hitler.

-Trix

[zombeikiller]

apriltricks, on 24 September 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

No one needs to try and make stuff to prove that it isn't possible. By defination if its impossible how the hell would you go about making it. We say certain things are impossible based on what we know. Space travel was considered impossible because we just didn't have the capabilities yet. At the moment what your claiming is impossible, I don't know about the future, but I doubt it'd happen. Also english may be your second language, but please use the enter button. A spell check and some capitalization would be nice. Just to make it easier to read.



Please god tell me you're not looking up to Hitler.

-Trix

ok nu do have to do whi said to prove its possible. and we do have the ecnolgy to do it. and  ven't sleep one bit and its 12:18. and i wborn in the usa aenglish is my only langues. and whcan spell wel any ways. and i'm not pickng and grabeing. it's re of a educated guess. and what i siad is possile t no one wants to try make it. i know i don't. a threoy is li a ducated guess. if u sticwith ur beliefs then u achieve greatness and there are many who will stand iur waynd u must endr. untill u can achive what many say u cannot. this is a atcully Quote. don't know from who. and i'm not looking up to hitle and icould are less the did. it wasn't the first time a hallicaust has happend on earth and won't be the last. and i'm prayssing the technolgical breack thoughts. not hitl hw they cold have be ar ore advanced then any other nation. and possible hhyperdrive bnow if they id t declare war on the usa.

[zombeikiller]

NOw i will te u it slowly and re acrityly. as i can.ith lie gibber jabber.  bioenginering and gentic engenrg are similer. but one deals with virues and cells
while the her deals in celsand animale tissues.  u take the resarch that some  scientst are reserching like makeing human hybrids by combineing human dna with animal dna. also te rna stands to. now viruses are made up of rna right. alsosome other things that i don't want to explne. and u can reversehepull of the vies that can kill you tidssues and orgin inside ino somehing that can help u stay alive and some how make it mutte and die if entered nto a human body tat it dosn't belong to. which i think that kind of tech is not yet studyed apon. i read some gentic but i vagely rber somthings becasue i rented them from the local lybary. but ya that and some oher functions i don't care to explane because i'm very tired rignow. see ya later.

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zombeikiller, on 24 September 2010 - 04:03 PM, said:

how do u know. whats possible. are u a sientis. do u stud tis or any thing else. and no. im not puting thingthat soucool into this. this is also possible and its crazy to do. unless u try how would u know. are u a genti engnere. tell e how can u back up cm that it is npossible. neither of us will win this debout unless some one try to make what i said. look it up. study up on gentics. thafter u read each document u can find find a gentisis and ask  if its possble on what i said. creative. yes. fiction. no. did u know that they said that space travle was not possibleat first. and why was germany 25 year more advance then ny of the other countrys of the time. because of people like me. who have a ideal. also hitler was trying to make a supersolder. now i tl u this don't say it's impossibe unless u try to make it first.

Ok, I'm going to try to pick my way through this. Yes, I am a scientist. Yes, I have studied recombinant DNA and chemistry and biology. I'm not sure what soucool is   .

I was wrong when I said these things weren't possible, what I should have said was it's not possible the way you are speculating. There are many things we know that dont have to be tested to know what will happen, this is why science is so useful. We can take an observation of one thing, combine it with what we have observed about other things and formulate a chain of causality that lets us assume what will happen. Is this sometimes wrong, yes. Is it sometimes incomplete? Yes. But it's based on real time study, not pure conjecture and junk science.

I would love to read these documents you claim prove what you're saying. Please provide a resource list or link to these documents so that we can all read them as I have requested twice now.

One of Science's greatest virtues is it's openness to self correction. The more we learn, the better we get at learning. Coming up with some half cocked theory and then saying "Hey, I just thought it up, you figure out how it works!" is not science. It's creative fiction. Like a comic book. "Hey, I thought a guy who gets mutated by a spider. You all figure out if it could work." That's creative fiction.

[Moonie2012]

Why are you guys bothering to argue scientific and genetic theory with someone who can't  spell or type one single coherent sentence?

It's not a winning proposition.

Edited by Moonie2012, 24 September 2010 - 05:07 PM.

[Brian Topp]

Paragraphs are you friend, You arguing in theory with not much to back this up.

[P4UL N0153]

Moonie2012, on 24 September 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

Why are you guys bothering to argue scientific and genetic theory with someone who can't  spell or type one single coherent sentence?

It's not a winning proposition.

I'm at work and it's very slow. And misinformation presented without opposition might as well be truth to some people. So by crying foul, it helps me believe that in some small way, I am helping fight ignorance.