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#1    Fluffybunny


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Posted 17 January 2005 - 07:03 PM

555 people on the same plane? wow, that is a seriously large aircraft. I am not fond of flying(unless I am the pilot...), but it would be neet to see a new plane that is bigger than a 747...
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LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Cost overruns and political bickering will be set aside Tuesday at Airbus as the Toulouse-based planemaker unveils its mighty A380 double-decker, the biggest airliner ever built.

French President Jacques Chirac and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are among more than 5,000 guests invited for a first glimpse of the A380, which some airlines are betting will reshape the industry.

Customers have committed almost $40 billion to buying the 555-seat plane, expecting it to lower operating costs and fatten profits, battered in a slowdown since 2001.

"It's the first seriously radically new plane for a generation," said Paul Moore, spokesman for British airline Virgin Atlantic, which has six A380s on order.

Airbus is throwing a party despite a less festive mood behind the scenes.

Chief Executive Noel Forgeard is leaving after waging a feisty public bid to become co-CEO of parent firm EADS, leaving questions about who will lead Airbus and sparking ill will within EADS.

"I didn't think that human nature was capable of such baseness," Philippe Camus, the man Forgeard will replace at EADS later this year, told reporters last week.

The A380 is also causing headaches as it runs 1.45 billion euros ($1.9 billion) over budget and battles a weight problem that threatens to undo its promised cost-saving performance.

While not an uncommon problem for new planes, the stakes are higher with the A380, which at a list price of $260 million is an expensive gamble.

Airbus' suppliers are also feeling the pinch, with British engineering firm Cobham among those running over budget on work to develop A380 equipment.

Virgin Atlantic said delays in developing some equipment contributed to its decision to delay its A380 deliveries.

The plane will dwarf rival Boeing Co.'s 416-seat 747-400, for four decades the reigning heavyweight. It will accommodate more than 800 if airlines use all-economy seating.

"The aircraft, which is enormous by any measure, should be a 'game-changer' in the long-haul market," J.P. Morgan analyst Chris Avery said in a recent research report.

The risk for Airbus is that it must deliver on the enormous promise of the plane, which will take its first flight in March and faces a year of flight trials.

"A lot of the good news has been factored into EADS shares," said one London-based analyst.

Airbus needs to keep the A380 on schedule, not only to satisfy customers but also to allow its engineers to turn to building its planned A350 mid-sized model and spearheading Europe's planned military transport plane, the A400M.

Airbus must also meet its bullish forecasts regarding demand for the A380 and recoup the more than 12 billion euros that the plane will cost to create.

The planemaker foresees demand for 1,650 planes in the A380 category above 450 seats over the next 20 years.

Rival Boeing Co. expects demand for less than a third of that number as it mulls a stretched version of the 747.

J.P. Morgan's Avery said Airbus would need to sell 248 of the planes just to break even, versus the 149 commitments collected so far.

Adding further pressure is a recent agreement between U.S. and European negotiators to work out a pact, which is likely to make it harder for Airbus to receive state funding.

On Tuesday, Airbus will put all such concerns aside to show off not only of the most talked-about plane in years, but also a track record that has helped it topple Boeing as the biggest commercial aircraft maker.

Airbus topped Boeing in 2004 both in deliveries and new orders.

If all goes to plan, the A380 might kill the 747 jumbo and become a must-have plane for airlines on long routes linking Asia with Europe and the United States.

The risk is that the public balks at the plane, equating a bigger plane with longer airport delays.

If they do, airlines may find it a plane that is hard to fill and therefore not the cost-saver they had hoped for.

Of Airbus' more than 200 customers, only 14 have committed to the A380, so it is clear that many are watching to see what happens.


Edited by Fluffybunny, 17 January 2005 - 07:08 PM.

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:47 PM

That really is awesome!  I was reading about it earlier but hadn't been able to look for a picture to see how the engines were configured (I assumed it was the same as the 747s though).  I understand the physics behind aeronautics, but still...looking at that thing...it's incredible they can make something like that fly!

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:49 PM

Damn that's massive. I dunno, i'd feel a little insecure flying in such a large plane.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 08:59 PM

they dont know if it will fly lol, tho i personaly hope it will work, because it will revolutionise air travile, and clog up run ways LOL


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Posted 18 January 2005 - 09:02 PM

I don't really think it will revolutionise travelling my planes, it just means more people will be able to travel in the same plane is all.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 11:37 PM

And airports all over the world have to extend and enlarge their airport facilities to accomodate these new massive aircraft. Melbourne airport is currently spending $50 million on that on and will be teh first australian airport to be visited by one of these massive craft!

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Posted 19 January 2005 - 12:07 AM

The Boeing 747-400 can carry upto 592 passengers, this can carry at least 700 its just they needed room for a bigger bar and gym. I thought they may have came up with a way to help ease the massive congestion predicted. It is impressive but there are bigger comercial aircraft out there.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 11:32 PM

The news of this is just another nail in the coffin of the zepplin industry. That was a good one, until the Hindenberg mishap. Would have been far smoother too. And imagine now the pressure of the Airbus on the tarmac. Depressions.

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 03:43 AM

The bigger they are...forgot how the rest goes.

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