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Indian Man Lynched Over Beef Rumours


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Indian man lynched over beef rumours

A 50-year-old man in northern India has been killed in a mob lynching allegedly over rumours that his family had been storing and consuming beef at home.

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All because of religion. Some people let their religion turn them into monsters. They should arrest anyone involved in this starting with the people in the temple that started the rumor.

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I always thought Hindu was quite peaceful and quiet, amazing to find it can be as barbaric and violent as any religion.

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The problem as I understand it is that cows are sacred, human beings are not sacred.

In comparative terms to the Hindu's involved the idea of slaughtering a cow and consuming the meat is on a par with western views of murder and cannabalism, probably even worse if that's possible.

What is actually completely outrageous in the scenario is that they were attacked on the basis of a rumor. The practice is banned in the province, if real evidence existed that they had slaughtered and consumed beef it should have been brought to the attention of the police and proper investigation and judicial process applies.

The worst of the criminals in this act are those that would spread such a rumor and relish the consequences brought about by the ignorant outraged masses.

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That's not something new. Ever since the Modi government is in power the radical Hindus are becoming more violent.If the Modi administration do not check these radical soon India will lose her secular nature

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I can't understand why they would go ballistic over the killing of a cow to the point they commit murder but say little when it comes to Elephants being abused.

Seems they think a lot of animals are sacred.

http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_do_hindu%27s_consider_animals_to_be_sacred

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I can't understand why they would go ballistic over the killing of a cow to the point they commit murder but say little when it comes to Elephants being abused.

Some folks just beef about nothing and everthing.

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Cows are sacred in Hinduism because they are (one of?) the only animal that will freely give it's milk to others. It represents a sort of altruism, in a way.

But libstaK is right - there are already laws to deal with this.

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The problem as I understand it is that cows are sacred, human beings are not sacred.

In comparative terms to the Hindu's involved the idea of slaughtering a cow and consuming the meat is on a par with western views of murder and cannabalism, probably even worse if that's possible.

What is actually completely outrageous in the scenario is that they were attacked on the basis of a rumor. The practice is banned in the province, if real evidence existed that they had slaughtered and consumed beef it should have been brought to the attention of the police and proper investigation and judicial process applies.

The worst of the criminals in this act are those that would spread such a rumor and relish the consequences brought about by the ignorant outraged masses.

They must hate most of the world with a passion then!! Ronald McDonald must be the Hindu Anti Christ!!

In this day and age it seems downright ridiculous that such beliefs can be the cause of a death.

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They must hate most of the world with a passion then!! Ronald McDonald must be the Hindu Anti Christ!!

In this day and age it seems downright ridiculous that such beliefs can be the cause of a death.

Culturally, they don't exactly live in "this day and age" as the West knows it to be.

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Actually it is quite similar to Christianity. When the Europeans got there they thought Indians were Catholics; they believe in punishment/sin and reward (Karma), men are the highest, then women, then animals (not sure if animals are higher than women). Nirvana is like heaven, you get there if you were good. The religion is quite strict and can be oppressive. Witch-hunts also exist. There are of course differences to Christianity, but some core elements are very similar. (At least that is my impression.... )

They probably thought they all get into hell (born as some low creature...) because that family ate some cow (if they really did). Mob rule is the worst :o. Anyway India has a long way to go to get law to those remote areas.

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I always thought Hindu was quite peaceful and quiet, amazing to find it can be as barbaric and violent as any religion.

All religions can be violent and all can be used to rationalize and justify violent actions.

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All religions can be violent and all can be used to rationalize and justify violent actions.

That applies to all beliefs actually, not just religious beliefs. The constant tension between socialism, democrasy etc in the political arena are a testament to this as are the crazy mobs we see at so many sporting events these days.

People take advantage of beliefs to achieve what they personally, secretly want. That is the biggest problem here, someone cared so little for this man and his family they incited a mob to have him killed based on rumor.

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Some folks just beef about nothing and everthing.

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Ah, more antics from the wacky lands of the Third World.

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Culturally, they don't exactly live in "this day and age" as the West knows it to be.

THAT is the big problem. No matter what they think it is, the year remains 2015. We cannot still be going around killing people because someone thinks a cow is a god no matter what state, country, culture or whatever. That's just plain ridiculous and should not be tolerated, what this does illustrate is how we as a species let ourselves down and how we do not share knowledge.

In this day and age, no person should remain in such a backwards barbaric state. It lets all our ancestors down in one fell swoop.

Nobody should be left in that state of complete ignorance. Not when kids are tapping away on iPads. Plain ridiculous. Are we not treating them like fools as well by letting them keep this long outdated foolish, and pointless belief? Is that not like letting a small child believe in the Easter Bunny, but laughing at them when they leave the room?

As a species, we leave unfortunates like this behind, which seems rather cold to me. I am sure we can do better. In the year 2015, nobody should still believe a Cow is a God.

Would people allow cannibalism if it was part of a religion?

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All religions can be violent and all can be used to rationalize and justify violent actions.

A sad lesson to learn.

Politics can be fought for to bring us better conditions, war is fought to make the country stronger which benefits the citizens in most cases, unless it is a religious war over an imaginary being, so it does not matter who wins what, nobody benefits. With politics, this man would die of old age waiting for red tape, in war, he would be tried, with religion, a rumour is enough to justify death.

And it seems no religion can refrain from killing in the name of their God. I think that is all we ever needed to know about religion myself.

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Actually it is quite similar to Christianity. When the Europeans got there they thought Indians were Catholics; they believe in punishment/sin and reward (Karma), men are the highest, then women, then animals (not sure if animals are higher than women). Nirvana is like heaven, you get there if you were good. The religion is quite strict and can be oppressive. Witch-hunts also exist. There are of course differences to Christianity, but some core elements are very similar. (At least that is my impression.... )

They probably thought they all get into hell (born as some low creature...) because that family ate some cow (if they really did). Mob rule is the worst :o. Anyway India has a long way to go to get law to those remote areas.

Well, with religion, I am sure Witch Hunts will continue for ever and a day, that's pretty much what sealed this poor fellow fate wasn't it?

Gosh you have a "Christian" chip on your shoulder. Why you single that bunch out of all constantly is rather bewildering. They all ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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They must hate most of the world with a passion then!! Ronald McDonald must be the Hindu Anti Christ!!

In this day and age it seems downright ridiculous that such beliefs can be the cause of a death.

Nah, they love Maccas, not a shred of beef in any of their cardboard.... I mean food.

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THAT is the big problem. No matter what they think it is, the year remains 2015. We cannot still be going around killing people because someone thinks a cow is a god no matter what state, country, culture or whatever. That's just plain ridiculous and should not be tolerated, what this does illustrate is how we as a species let ourselves down and how we do not share knowledge.

In this day and age, no person should remain in such a backwards barbaric state. It lets all our ancestors down in one fell swoop.

Nobody should be left in that state of complete ignorance. Not when kids are tapping away on iPads. Plain ridiculous. Are we not treating them like fools as well by letting them keep this long outdated foolish, and pointless belief? Is that not like letting a small child believe in the Easter Bunny, but laughing at them when they leave the room?

As a species, we leave unfortunates like this behind, which seems rather cold to me. I am sure we can do better. In the year 2015, nobody should still believe a Cow is a God.

Would people allow cannibalism if it was part of a religion?

Actually, they do not think cows are Gods so much as elevated beings with a huge capacity for altruism.

Which you would think could work in favor of educating them out of their outdated ideas on many levels - holding altruism as a primary virtue that is.

We can't force them to digest the 20th century mind but we can lead them to an evolution in thought and a change in hearts. You catch more bees with honey and one sure way of feeding them vinegar and making them shut their ears is to tell them they are completely wrong. Better to work with what they understand and evolve it to the point that where they started their understanding is no longer relevant to them after having gained real psychological and intelectual insight.

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Gosh you have a "Christian" chip on your shoulder. Why you single that bunch out of all constantly is rather bewildering. They all ought to be ashamed of themselves.

It's the in-thing to do anymore--bash the religion that's actually come to terms with itself and now plays nice with the modern world. I don't tend to see many christians cutting off heads on youtube, consistently stoning and raping women as part of a set of laws, nor do I see many christians flying aircraft into skyscrapers. But I guess it's all subjective to each of us.

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It's the in-thing to do anymore--bash the religion that's actually come to terms with itself and now plays nice with the modern world. I don't tend to see many christians cutting off heads on youtube, consistently stoning and raping women as part of a set of laws, nor do I see many christians flying aircraft into skyscrapers. But I guess it's all subjective to each of us.

will happen as soon as the church gets more power and/or the wealth diminishes then this all (what already happened quite often in European history and now in African) will happen in Europe as well. I just need to listen to the so called nice Christians, with sweet and friendly voice they talk about hateful things, experienced it a lot during the refugee crisis. (like letting people die, they should be killed..etc ) +Agitating against immigrants as religious teacher.

History is my witness. Of course there are nice Christians since humans have a free will, but those would be the first who get killed labeled as heretics by other Christians. I am not a fan of Abrahamitic religions (+Buddhism, Hinduism) still I would defend their right to believe in it as long as they don't use it against me.

edit: anyway, in this thread I only pointed out that the karma thing is very similar

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Actually, they do not think cows are Gods so much as elevated beings with a huge capacity for altruism.

I just looked into that, I stand corrected, thank you for the information.

I read the Cow can be a vehicle for a deity. I wonder if that means that Indians think Cows come from heaven?

Which you would think could work in favor of educating them out of their outdated ideas on many levels - holding altruism as a primary virtue that is.

It certainly is not a bad virtue I have to admit.

We can't force them to digest the 20th century mind but we can lead them to an evolution in thought and a change in hearts. You catch more bees with honey and one sure way of feeding them vinegar and making them shut their ears is to tell them they are completely wrong. Better to work with what they understand and evolve it to the point that where they started their understanding is no longer relevant to them after having gained real psychological and intelectual insight.

That is pretty much where my rant was going. I feel we let others down when we "let them run with what they do" instead of educating the young to find a better way. As I mentioned, it feel like we treat them like fools when we look them in the eye all serious about their religion, and discuss how ridiculous they are when they leave the room. It seems wrong and not how we should regard a fellow person.

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It's the in-thing to do anymore--bash the religion that's actually come to terms with itself and now plays nice with the modern world. I don't tend to see many christians cutting off heads on youtube, consistently stoning and raping women as part of a set of laws, nor do I see many christians flying aircraft into skyscrapers. But I guess it's all subjective to each of us.

I am noticing that, particularly with one poster who rears his ugly ... ohh, there he is.

The crying shame is how they just go backwards, and think arguments about Christian Crusades 400 years ago stand today. With all the claims of peaceful nature of pagans, it is not what I witness on this forum.

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