Sceptic Religious Vs Science Events

[MichaelFredrek]

Here is something that has been haunting me for a long time and tried to get some answers but well.. i get hundred different answers

what i am about to ask here is something that confuses me a lot and need you folks to please try and re organise

the answer in as scientifically or realistic as possible.

Question 1

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The Bible says that Adam and Eve lived on earth after they have been kicked out of Eden

now, where the dinosaurs created in the time of Adam and Eve or Before they where created?

Question 2

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If you answer the first question remember that there were 2 events that took place according to Bible

a) The great flood in Noah times which suppose to have wiped every living thing that was outside the arc

The meteor that hit earth during the Dinosaurs which it is indicated in the crate of Mexico the large one

which wiped them completely off

Now the question here is;

If the great flood wiped everything out was it after the dinosaurs or before it?

and if the meteor also wiped a large scale of living thing was it after Noah or before?

Because now i am very confused here why?

If the dinosaurs lived during Adam times then the dinosaurs where peaceful and that would contradict a lot

and if the dinosaurs came after Adam then have they been wiped by the flood?

also if the flood wiped everything alive then how did some other species of insects and plants and animals evolve?

the confusion here is for me at large and i can't get the facts or dates correctly organized

if there was a great flood then things here would be different and if the dinosaurs lived before or even after Adam

then the meteorite thing would be a hoax.. so could you please re organize all of these events again or shed some light here

because this is damaging my cells

[danielost]

Here is something that has been haunting me for a long time and tried to get some answers but well.. i get hundred different answers

what i am about to ask here is something that confuses me a lot and need you folks to please try and re organise

the answer in as scientifically or realistic as possible.

Question 1

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The Bible says that Adam and Eve lived on earth after they have been kicked out of Eden

now, where the dinosaurs created in the time of Adam and Eve or Before they where created?

Question 2

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If you answer the first question remember that there were 2 events that took place according to Bible

a) The great flood in Noah times which suppose to have wiped every living thing that was outside the arc

The meteor that hit earth during the Dinosaurs which it is indicated in the crate of Mexico the large one

which wiped them completely off

Now the question here is;

If the great flood wiped everything out was it after the dinosaurs or before it?

and if the meteor also wiped a large scale of living thing was it after Noah or before?

Because now i am very confused here why?

If the dinosaurs lived during Adam times then the dinosaurs where peaceful and that would contradict a lot

and if the dinosaurs came after Adam then have they been wiped by the flood?

also if the flood wiped everything alive then how did some other species of insects and plants and animals evolve?

the confusion here is for me at large and i can't get the facts or dates correctly organized

if there was a great flood then things here would be different and if the dinosaurs lived before or even after Adam

then the meteorite thing would be a hoax.. so could you please re organize all of these events again or shed some light here

because this is damaging my cells

adam was the first living thing on earth. so the dinos were here when he was. eve was the last living thing on earth.

the dinos weren't invited on the ark due to their aggression which would have increased after the flood. plus they would have taken up to much room.

now how did so many varieties of animals get on the ark, simple they didn't. the animals, insects, evolved from those that made it aboard. such as the deer family, the oxen family, and yes even the canine family. if you look carefully you can see the blood lines. it also seems that noah made a mistake and got a brother and sister cheetah for the ark. the reason, is that all cheetahs have the same genes, with the exception of male or female.

[Careful_perspective]

My question is, what is your interest in knowing this? Have you been afraid to dream of God because you don't think it all adds up logically? Or are you just merely curious? Or do you want to start a debate?

[MichaelFredrek]

My question is, what is your interest in knowing this? Have you been afraid to dream of God because you don't think it all adds up logically? Or are you just merely curious? Or do you want to start a debate?

i am confused nothing else because i cant get the events correctly in ascending order

i have the story that we all know but the events are simply important for me

also because i attended a conference about a guy who try to disprove that god exsists

just out of curiosity to see what he has to say and i got so many questions spinning my head afterwards

like the ones i asked i have even more

like this one

what was the first language spoken by Adam and eve ??????????

and did god make aliens ? if yes for what purpose if not then what are they and what do they serve of purpose

to the whole creation?

[aquatus1]

Here is something that has been haunting me for a long time and tried to get some answers but well.. i get hundred different answers

what i am about to ask here is something that confuses me a lot and need you folks to please try and re organise

the answer in as scientifically or realistic as possible.

Scientifically? What for?

You don't need science to believe in the bible.

Question 1

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The Bible says that Adam and Eve lived on earth after they have been kicked out of Eden

now, where the dinosaurs created in the time of Adam and Eve or Before they where created?

Adam and Eve are irrelevant to dinosaurs. They do not exist in the biological timeline. It's like asking if Spiderman existed before Manhattan; we are talking about two different universes, they don't have anything to do with each other.

Question 2

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If you answer the first question remember that there were 2 events that took place according to Bible

a) The great flood in Noah times which suppose to have wiped every living thing that was outside the arc

The meteor that hit earth during the Dinosaurs which it is indicated in the crate of Mexico the large one

which wiped them completely off

Now the question here is;

If the great flood wiped everything out was it after the dinosaurs or before it?

and if the meteor also wiped a large scale of living thing was it after Noah or before?

To the first, there has never been a global flood that has wiped out everything. There have been hundreds of massive local floods throughout history that would have given anyone the feeling that the entire world was under water, and there are dozens of corresponding flood legends all throughout time and throughout the world reflecting that, but there is no evidence of any one singular global flood.

In regards to the K-T event, the extinction of the dinos, that happened millions of years before man was even evolved, heck, millions of years before even the most liberal of the Young Earther estimates that man was around.

Because now i am very confused here why?

If the dinosaurs lived during Adam times then the dinosaurs where peaceful and that would contradict a lot

and if the dinosaurs came after Adam then have they been wiped by the flood?

also if the flood wiped everything alive then how did some other species of insects and plants and animals evolve?

the confusion here is for me at large and i can't get the facts or dates correctly organized

if there was a great flood then things here would be different and if the dinosaurs lived before or even after Adam

then the meteorite thing would be a hoax.. so could you please re organize all of these events again or shed some light here

because this is damaging my cells

Your confusion stems from believing the word of man over the word of God. Biblical inerrancy is a church doctrine, not a heavenly postulate. You won't find anything in the bible that tells you that you are required to believe the bible is inerrant.

[danielost]

Scientifically? What for?

You don't need science to believe in the bible.

Adam and Eve are irrelevant to dinosaurs. They do not exist in the biological timeline. It's like asking if Spiderman existed before Manhattan; we are talking about two different universes, they don't have anything to do with each other.

To the first, there has never been a global flood that has wiped out everything. There have been hundreds of massive local floods throughout history that would have given anyone the feeling that the entire world was under water, and there are dozens of corresponding flood legends all throughout time and throughout the world reflecting that, but there is no evidence of any one singular global flood.

In regards to the K-T event, the extinction of the dinos, that happened millions of years before man was even evolved, heck, millions of years before even the most liberal of the Young Earther estimates that man was around.

Your confusion stems from believing the word of man over the word of God. Biblical inerrancy is a church doctrine, not a heavenly postulate. You won't find anything in the bible that tells you that you are required to believe the bible is inerrant.

the problem with your theory on a local flood being mistaken for a world flood, is mountains would not be covered by a world flood. and, most flood stories have the mountains being covered by the flood.

[aquatus1]

the problem with your theory on a local flood being mistaken for a world flood, is mountains would not be covered by a world flood.

There are plenty of world floods where the survivors are saved by going up the mountains. Not every flood stories relies on a person building a boat.

and, most flood stories have the mountains being covered by the flood.

Very few flood stories mention mountains at all. I can think of three, maybe four, off-hand, with mountains in them.

[danielost]

i am confused nothing else because i cant get the events correctly in ascending order

i have the story that we all know but the events are simply important for me

also because i attended a conference about a guy who try to disprove that god exsists

just out of curiosity to see what he has to say and i got so many questions spinning my head afterwards

like the ones i asked i have even more

like this one

what was the first language spoken by Adam and eve ??????????

and did god make aliens ? if yes for what purpose if not then what are they and what do they serve of purpose

to the whole creation?

no one knows what language adam and eve spoke.

and yes there is life on other planets. but, that does not mean that our god created them. there are other gods. but there is only one god for us and earth. my belief is ever solar system with life have their own god. trheir purpose ias the same as ours, to return to live in heaven with god, and to become gods ourselves. that is if we earn it.

[danielost]

There are plenty of world floods where the survivors are saved by going up the mountains. Not every flood stories relies on a person building a boat.

Very few flood stories mention mountains at all. I can think of three, maybe four, off-hand, with mountains in them.

they do state the earth was covered completely with water, with only a handful of survivors. not all have arks.

[shadowhive]

they do state the earth was covered completely with water, with only a handful of survivors. not all have arks.

It sounds incredibly implausible for all life on Earth to have come from one ark. And where's the evidence of a global flood? Surely such an event would have lefft some sort of geological evidence. After all to cover every mountain it would require... what? Several timesthe amount of water that's on the planet now. Where did it go?

adam was the first living thing on earth. so the dinos were here when he was. eve was the last living thing on earth.

Evidence? We have evidence of there being life on earth when conditions would have been toxic to us. Adam either would have died in 5 minutes or had a completely different biology to survive.

the dinos weren't invited on the ark due to their aggression which would have increased after the flood. plus they would have taken up to much room.

Many dinosaurs were herbivors so had little aggression (part from inself defence). (And if aggression was an issue theat excluded them why weren'tother carnivors excluded too?) As to there 'notbeing room' it would seem short sighted to make something to contain most species and not havethe room to do so.

[Stubbly_Dooright]

I'm with Shadowhive on this one. To me, they seem to be two different ways of looking at this. For me, I would be more likely to think of the of the dinosaur aspect and the fact they were then wiped out by the asteroid. For me, growing up secular, this seems more plausible based on how I have been viewed various 'evidence' to make me believe this aspect. I do not see where Adam and Eve and the great flood would fall into this, because I myself have had no 'evidence' provided for me to believe it whole heartily. I see this aspect not playing a part, because it's a whole different ballgame. Kind of separating them like evolution vs. creation.

I have often read and watched documentaries that may have found things like maybe an arc in some mountains somewhere, or other findings that might say something close to what the bible says could have happened. I would keep an open mind about it. I think there might actually be events that have given those findings to be events that maybe close to what the bible says.

[back to earth]

Ohhh , dont be silly. The solution is sooo simple ... they just took baby ones !

[danielost]

It sounds incredibly implausible for all life on Earth to have come from one ark. And where's the evidence of a global flood? Surely such an event would have lefft some sort of geological evidence. After all to cover every mountain it would require... what? Several timesthe amount of water that's on the planet now. Where did it go?

Evidence? We have evidence of there being life on earth when conditions would have been toxic to us. Adam either would have died in 5 minutes or had a completely different biology to survive.

Many dinosaurs were herbivors so had little aggression (part from inself defence). (And if aggression was an issue theat excluded them why weren'tother carnivors excluded too?) As to there 'notbeing room' it would seem short sighted to make something to contain most species and not havethe room to do so.

i think it is the k boundary. but science has misinterpreted it as an asteroid strike. although in order for the oceans to be displaced an asteroid would have had to hit the earth. one big enough to knock the earth off its axis, to what it is now. the cats and dogs aren't as aggressive as the dinos were and they were much smaller.

as for how noah got the animals, i think he raided a zoo or at least their version of one. and as i said most of the animals evolved after the flood.