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ive noticed overtime, a bizarre amount of times when i randomly start thinking about something, and moments later someone mentions it. now obviously this sort of thing is bound to happen by coincidence, but it happens nearly daily.

ive even been able to experiment with it, today i decided to start thinking about the song 'rasputin', having no reason in particular for it and never having discussed it with anyone before. a couple hours later a friend of mine comments on how the song 'rasputin' reminds him of me. just out of the blue. and this sort of thing happens all the time with lots of different people, more than i can rationalize away as coincidence

it makes me a bit paranoid. i feel like im uncontrollably projecting my thoughts telepathically...

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Sometimes because we are very close to those that know us well ...such as family and friends. We can become like an open book.

Because of this - some may know what our interests are - what our passions are - what our moods are like etc...some may share the same common interests as well.

I have often found this to happen with my sisters or mum...they will say something...and I will say "Wow! I was just thinking about that - you must have been reading my thoughts"...

Try this experiment on a stranger or two - eg; somebody who works at a grocery store and see what happens.

@ PS - I put it all down to being a coincidence...but nevertheless a pretty cool one when it happens :)

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You are simply experiencing how connected we are. Try not to over think the strangeness. It will subside.

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be careful what you think, there are telepaths everywhere that have nothing better to do but judge other people, especially the ones who have no idea whats going on. with the abundance of telepaths in america, it really really really makes me question why this is a problem familywatchdog.us

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..and next time, try to keep your "ra, ra, rasputin, russia's greatest love machine.." internalised, rather than humming it out loud... :)

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Perhaps it is something akin to Baader-Meinhof phenomenon? You wouldn't really have thought anything of it had you not thought of the song prior to your friend telling you it brought you to mind.. Our brains look for patterns naturally..

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be careful what you think, there are telepaths everywhere that have nothing better to do but judge other people, especially the ones who have no idea whats going on. with the abundance of telepaths in america, it really really really makes me question why this is a problem familywatchdog.us

heh yes im certainly paranoid , but it's gotten ridiculous, beyond just coincidence, so i cant help but be suspicious.. i generally attempt to think 'loudly' that i know that theyre reading me, not that it changes much but at least i keep my dignity by showing im not unaware prey.. i wonder if theres a way to counter them directly

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Perhaps it is something akin to Baader-Meinhof phenomenon? You wouldn't really have thought anything of it had you not thought of the song prior to your friend telling you it brought you to mind.. Our brains look for patterns naturally..

of course, for years i assumed it was just the inherant pattern seeking of the brain, it's just gotten..way out of hand. that was just the most recent example... even assuming that many of these incidents are just me assigning meanings to meaningless patterns its a really massive number

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..and next time, try to keep your "ra, ra, rasputin, russia's greatest love machine.." internalised, rather than humming it out loud... :)

haha i wish that was the case. it would be pretty funny

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be careful what you think, there are telepaths everywhere that have nothing better to do but judge other people, especially the ones who have no idea whats going on. with the abundance of telepaths in america, it really really really makes me question why this is a problem familywatchdog.us

I am not aware of any telepaths. I've never met anyone claiming to be like that. This is the first time I've heard anyone suggest that there are plenty of telepaths.

I'm not aware of anything supporting the notion that anyone has ever been able to do telepathy. To hear the suggestion that none becomes an abundance is surprising.

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Hi,

Being mindful of your own thinking matters quite a lot. How another could judge you is of no consequence. However what you create in your life because of your thinking is inescapable.

On the subject of telepathy, it depends on personal experiences. This is one of those subjective areas. I happen to like this telepathy study.

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Mysteries-of-the-Mind/ESP-Researchers-Telepathy.html

John

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Nice write up but it does not support telepathy with anything other than opinions, i.e. Freud, and anecdotes, i.e. bushmen, and older studies, i.e. Rhine.

So what happens when studies are done under circumstances in which studies are done with tighter control? Telepathy is not seen.

Using older studies reminds me of pyramid power. Pyramid power happens for those with personal experience. Older studies are used to suggest organisms can transmute elements. Anecdotes suggest razors are sharpened.

Personal experience is really anecdotal evidence. It is the reason we have to test and test properly blinding the experiment. Humans trick themselves and trick each other. Blinding is designed to eliminate that possibility. When that is done the effects go away.

As we see in the link below, the experiments mentioned in the article all pre-date the general use of double blinded experiments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment

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Hi .mantis,

I too have experienced your described situation quite often. And I also put it to the test with positive results.

I believe some folks have an innate ability to transmit thoughts to others. In fact, I think some so-called mind readers, are simply skilled at being able to project thoughts into the minds of others. They just think of and project the thought of an object or a playing card to someone, and then tell them to think of such and such. Then they tell them (or perhaps draw for greater affect) that particular item.

Very interesting stuff eh?

Sojo

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Nice write up but it does not support telepathy with anything other than opinions, i.e. Freud, and anecdotes, i.e. bushmen, and older studies, i.e. Rhine.

So what happens when studies are done under circumstances in which studies are done with tighter control? Telepathy is not seen.

Using older studies reminds me of pyramid power. Pyramid power happens for those with personal experience. Older studies are used to suggest organisms can transmute elements. Anecdotes suggest razors are sharpened.

Personal experience is really anecdotal evidence. It is the reason we have to test and test properly blinding the experiment. Humans trick themselves and trick each other. Blinding is designed to eliminate that possibility. When that is done the effects go away.

As we see in the link below, the experiments mentioned in the article all pre-date the general use of double blinded experiments.

https://en.wikipedia...lind_experiment

Ah! Pyramid power. Reminds me of Ms JZ Knight and Ramtha. I lived and worked near her compound in Yelm. Lots of famous people have followed her for years. Smart woman but crazy as a loon.

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Ah! Pyramid power. Reminds me of Ms JZ Knight and Ramtha. I lived and worked near her compound in Yelm. Lots of famous people have followed her for years. Smart woman but crazy as a loon.

A friend of mine in college got into pyramid power and constructed a pyramid over his bed. He claimed it helped him sleep at night. He had lots of anecdotes of positive results. He did state that a dull razor never seemed to sharpen as suggested in the books. In the end he started an outrageous big bonfire topped with his pyramids.

Still curious about the suggestion that there is an "abundance of telepaths in america." I simply don't find that plausible. I have asked around here and I get plenty of strange looks.

When people state "put it to the test with positive results" I wonder how this was done. I for one am asking myself if something is the cause. Let me provide an example. I am hiking along and I feel a cramp like feeling in my lower leg. I do what is an initial response to many such events. I drink water. I had coffee this morning. I have been hiking uphill for 2 hours into the mountains. The cramps start to go away. ore water and they are gone. Did the water do the trick? Frankly, I don't know. I could simply say yes. Maybe it was something else. I don't know.

I have often called my siblings and they tell me they were just thinking about me. Telepathy? Unlikely. More likely it is after work. I am recalling forgotten birthdays, anniversaries, worried I am forgetting something dealing with my spouse that could put me in the doghouse, ... They too are in the same position. We happen to get along and we try to see each other often despite the geographical separation. Telepathy? No.

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A friend of mine in college got into pyramid power and constructed a pyramid over his bed. He claimed it helped him sleep at night. He had lots of anecdotes of positive results. He did state that a dull razor never seemed to sharpen as suggested in the books. In the end he started an outrageous big bonfire topped with his pyramids.

Still curious about the suggestion that there is an "abundance of telepaths in america." I simply don't find that plausible. I have asked around here and I get plenty of strange looks.

When people state "put it to the test with positive results" I wonder how this was done. I for one am asking myself if something is the cause. Let me provide an example. I am hiking along and I feel a cramp like feeling in my lower leg. I do what is an initial response to many such events. I drink water. I had coffee this morning. I have been hiking uphill for 2 hours into the mountains. The cramps start to go away. ore water and they are gone. Did the water do the trick? Frankly, I don't know. I could simply say yes. Maybe it was something else. I don't know.

I have often called my siblings and they tell me they were just thinking about me. Telepathy? Unlikely. More likely it is after work. I am recalling forgotten birthdays, anniversaries, worried I am forgetting something dealing with my spouse that could put me in the doghouse, ... They too are in the same position. We happen to get along and we try to see each other often despite the geographical separation. Telepathy? No.

There is a connectedness within all of us. There's a lot of speculative theories running a muck in what causes these synchronous interactions but we just aren't there yet. In my life and my experiences, I know beyond a shadow of doubt, there is something working behind the scenes. We all came from the same place, from the same seed. Why would we not be connected on a very deep level?

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There is a connectedness within all of us. There's a lot of speculative theories running a muck in what causes these synchronous interactions but we just aren't there yet. In my life and my experiences, I know beyond a shadow of doubt, there is something working behind the scenes. We all came from the same place, from the same seed. Why would we not be connected on a very deep level?

Interesting idea, but why would we be connected? We think these interactions are synchronous, i.e. at the same time, but find out they are not. We would life to believe that there is something behind the scenes. Maybe there is. Maybe there is not.

How would you try and determine if this is true? Do you simply assume it to be the case or do you venture forward and run a test?

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Interesting idea, but why would we be connected? We think these interactions are synchronous, i.e. at the same time, but find out they are not. We would life to believe that there is something behind the scenes. Maybe there is. Maybe there is not.

How would you try and determine if this is true? Do you simply assume it to be the case or do you venture forward and run a test?

How would you propose I test this?

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How would you propose I test this?

Allow me to be the devil's avocado...

I'd suggest you don't bother :D - testing things is extraordinarily demanding, and can be even worse when we are talking subjective judgements.. As an example, how about predicting numbers.. If I was to ask a number of people to just name a number, I could probably get a very high prediction hit rate by simply pre-guessing the 'obvious ones', like 4, 7, 9, 13.. you know.. But what if I asked them to pick a card from a shuffled deck and then try to mentally project it to me? I just removed the subjective aspect, and (as long as I took a few other precautions) the chances of a correct result have now been more accurately reduced to something like a real experiment.. Then again, what about a tarot card reading - how could you remove the subjectivity? If you don't, you'll end up with the rubbish 'research' done by the likes of Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake.. (Examples available on request...)

Anyway, what I mean is you have to come up with tests like that random card one that are subjective, useful and properly controlled... hard work. And I can tell you that those who do it properly, have not yet found evidence of abilities beyond the 'norm'.

So, I'd suggest something else... I keep talking about starting a thread on this one day, but haven't yet.. I'd suggest that you instead open your mind to all the earthly possibilities, remembering that we are talking about people - people contain the most advanced computer on the planet. Maybe not the fastest, or the best at chess, etc, but as far as pattern matching and using subconscious skills of all sorts of types - it is a master!!

To give you an example of the sort of thing I mean - I often hear people talking about their latest example of "I was just thinking of you, and you CALLED ME right at that moment!" It happens to me too.. But when you start to think it through, this sort of thing can be incredibly complex and have many causes. First up, we all have rhythms and patterns of behavior, so after a certain time (eg with me and my daughter, it's about eight to ten days, I reckon) it is starting to become odd that we haven't been in touch, so we both tend to think of each other more often and expect the call (or make it). So from that tiny thing alone, the chances of this happening are greatly increased. But that's just the start of it - there are particular times of day that we both tend to call - subconsciously we both know that and that will be the time/s I think of her. We have some similar tastes in music/tv, so we may well both be watching/hearing something (or overhearing it from someone else's car)... There may be particular weather patterns eg rainy days, or perhaps news stories on topics that we often discuss, or maybe things on social media (I don't like social media, but I hear some do..). Anyway, I could go on for much longer *just* on this one happening that many think is indicative of paranormal powers or a 'connection'...

So why not, next time you encounter something or hear about someone's 'beyond coincidence' story.. consider - is it really that weird? And of course when there are billions of people on the planet, many of whom are either communicating or passing on (or making up (cough!)) stories on the Interwebz, well of course we will hear about many coincidental happenings! Probability guarantees it..

Some folks find it boring to consider all the possibilities and look for the collection of 'mundane' abilities that might contribute to these happenings... Me, I find the power of the mind and subconscious absolutely fascinating and no less exciting than having to invoke paranormalcy.

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ive noticed overtime, a bizarre amount of times when i randomly start thinking about something, and moments later someone mentions it. now obviously this sort of thing is bound to happen by coincidence, but it happens nearly daily.

ive even been able to experiment with it, today i decided to start thinking about the song 'rasputin', having no reason in particular for it and never having discussed it with anyone before. a couple hours later a friend of mine comments on how the song 'rasputin' reminds him of me. just out of the blue. and this sort of thing happens all the time with lots of different people, more than i can rationalize away as coincidence

it makes me a bit paranoid. i feel like im uncontrollably projecting my thoughts telepathically...

I was thinking about starting a similar topic but I knew someone else would sooner or later. :lol:

Curious, how did you overcome your paranoia enough to say this on the Worlds Biggest Stage? Because going public on the web is about as far removed from the safety and comfort of simply seeing a shrink as you can get.

Here is the rational explanation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity And a bit of fun...

I bet somebody expected me to post a video. ;)

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Allow me to be the devil's avocado...

I'd suggest you don't bother :D - testing things is extraordinarily demanding, and can be even worse when we are talking subjective judgements.. As an example, how about predicting numbers.. If I was to ask a number of people to just name a number, I could probably get a very high prediction hit rate by simply pre-guessing the 'obvious ones', like 4, 7, 9, 13.. you know.. But what if I asked them to pick a card from a shuffled deck and then try to mentally project it to me? I just removed the subjective aspect, and (as long as I took a few other precautions) the chances of a correct result have now been more accurately reduced to something like a real experiment.. Then again, what about a tarot card reading - how could you remove the subjectivity? If you don't, you'll end up with the rubbish 'research' done by the likes of Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake.. (Examples available on request...)

Anyway, what I mean is you have to come up with tests like that random card one that are subjective, useful and properly controlled... hard work. And I can tell you that those who do it properly, have not yet found evidence of abilities beyond the 'norm'.

So, I'd suggest something else... I keep talking about starting a thread on this one day, but haven't yet.. I'd suggest that you instead open your mind to all the earthly possibilities, remembering that we are talking about people - people contain the most advanced computer on the planet. Maybe not the fastest, or the best at chess, etc, but as far as pattern matching and using subconscious skills of all sorts of types - it is a master!!

To give you an example of the sort of thing I mean - I often hear people talking about their latest example of "I was just thinking of you, and you CALLED ME right at that moment!" It happens to me too.. But when you start to think it through, this sort of thing can be incredibly complex and have many causes. First up, we all have rhythms and patterns of behavior, so after a certain time (eg with me and my daughter, it's about eight to ten days, I reckon) it is starting to become odd that we haven't been in touch, so we both tend to think of each other more often and expect the call (or make it). So from that tiny thing alone, the chances of this happening are greatly increased. But that's just the start of it - there are particular times of day that we both tend to call - subconsciously we both know that and that will be the time/s I think of her. We have some similar tastes in music/tv, so we may well both be watching/hearing something (or overhearing it from someone else's car)... There may be particular weather patterns eg rainy days, or perhaps news stories on topics that we often discuss, or maybe things on social media (I don't like social media, but I hear some do..). Anyway, I could go on for much longer *just* on this one happening that many think is indicative of paranormal powers or a 'connection'...

So why not, next time you encounter something or hear about someone's 'beyond coincidence' story.. consider - is it really that weird? And of course when there are billions of people on the planet, many of whom are either communicating or passing on (or making up (cough!)) stories on the Interwebz, well of course we will hear about many coincidental happenings! Probability guarantees it..

Some folks find it boring to consider all the possibilities and look for the collection of 'mundane' abilities that might contribute to these happenings... Me, I find the power of the mind and subconscious absolutely fascinating and no less exciting than having to invoke paranormalcy.

Well, that would be a terribly mundane way to perceive these things ;) To be serious, yes, we are creatures of habit. We do certain things at certain times and the people close to us are in sync with our schedule. I also believe there's something else at play. I've had too many things, too often, that can't be explained away with such logic. I believe some people will never experience this phenomena and I believe there are some of us that experience it on a daily basis. I don't fall for the, "I'm an empath," or any other psychobabble. I think we all have the innate ability to connect with one another on a very deep level.

Personally, I cherish the weirdness. It keeps my life interesting. I've read many accounts from posters on here that are not so accepting and it just scares them. For me, it's the spark that ignites my curiosity about this universe.

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ChrLzs - Anyway, what I mean is you have to come up with tests like that random card one that are subjective OBJECTIVE, useful and properly controlled... hard work. And I can tell you that those who do it properly, have not yet found evidence of abilities beyond the 'norm'.

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Well, that would be a terribly mundane way to perceive these things ;) To be serious, yes, we are creatures of habit. We do certain things at certain times and the people close to us are in sync with our schedule. I also believe there's something else at play. I've had too many things, too often, that can't be explained away with such logic. I believe some people will never experience this phenomena and I believe there are some of us that experience it on a daily basis. I don't fall for the, "I'm an empath," or any other psychobabble. I think we all have the innate ability to connect with one another on a very deep level.

Personally, I cherish the weirdness. It keeps my life interesting. I've read many accounts from posters on here that are not so accepting and it just scares them. For me, it's the spark that ignites my curiosity about this universe.

Fair enough! I just find thinking about the myriad of ways in which that connection could be explained, is not mundane at all! It's a bit like considering the possibility that we just might be the only life we will ever encounter in our 'explorable' universe. I find that absolutely fascinating and awesome, where some would see it as depressing that we could just be alone...

btw I have corrected a word in my original post that you quoted - annoyingly I got my subjectives and objectives mixed up. Embarrassing...

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Well, that would be a terribly mundane way to perceive these things ;) To be serious, yes, we are creatures of habit. We do certain things at certain times and the people close to us are in sync with our schedule. I also believe there's something else at play. I've had too many things, too often, that can't be explained away with such logic. I believe some people will never experience this phenomena and I believe there are some of us that experience it on a daily basis. I don't fall for the, "I'm an empath," or any other psychobabble. I think we all have the innate ability to connect with one another on a very deep level.

Personally, I cherish the weirdness. It keeps my life interesting. I've read many accounts from posters on here that are not so accepting and it just scares them. For me, it's the spark that ignites my curiosity about this universe.

I find the world to be a much more beautiful place when I strip out the mystery.

You suggest that there is a world out there that cannot be explained with logic. It really doesn't matter if I experience that or not. I don't have to experience a dinosaur, or an atom decaying, or a supernova, or be able to "connect with one another on a very deep level" to accept or reject these things.

It certainly is possible to believe in things without evidence. That is called faith.

What I am interested in is how you determine that there are these deep connections. Anything I have looked into has shown that the weirdness, as you called it, goes away when scrutinized.

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ive noticed overtime, a bizarre amount of times when i randomly start thinking about something, and moments later someone mentions it. now obviously this sort of thing is bound to happen by coincidence, but it happens nearly daily.

ive even been able to experiment with it, today i decided to start thinking about the song 'rasputin', having no reason in particular for it and never having discussed it with anyone before. a couple hours later a friend of mine comments on how the song 'rasputin' reminds him of me. just out of the blue. and this sort of thing happens all the time with lots of different people, more than i can rationalize away as coincidence

it makes me a bit paranoid. i feel like im uncontrollably projecting my thoughts telepathically...

I knew a guy who could do this. And it's happened to me too. You are not alone.

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