Simbi Laveau Posted July 30, 2012 #1 Share Posted July 30, 2012 http://thecount.com/2012/07/28/we-own-the-rain-man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/ Yes folks,the US government now owns the rain .He's facing jail time . Next,solar energy will be illegal,as I'm sure the US govt also owns light ........soon it will be illegal to breathe,as they own the air too ,I am sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemonix Posted July 30, 2012 #2 Share Posted July 30, 2012 It's only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 30, 2012 Author #3 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Don't get a tan,they own sunlight . The darker you are,the higher your fine .Yah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted July 30, 2012 #4 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The problem here is that there are so many now useless laws on the books it is not even funny anymore. In its day the reservoir law had a hygiene reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 30, 2012 Author #5 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I collect rainwater during massive storms. It's an occult thing. Storm rain water can be used to do homage to my particular goddess,so I always have it in bottles. I collect it myself,on my property . That's why this hit home for me. Granted,I'm sure my neighbors think I'm nuts if they see me out on the lawns with bowls,during a massive thunder storm with high winds,but its got to be done during the storm,and actively . So i get wet . No biggie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted July 30, 2012 #6 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Most municipalities encourage folks to collect rainwater. Heck, around here they give away free rain barrels because the rainwater overwhelms the drainage systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 30, 2012 #7 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted July 30, 2012 #8 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. Good catch - there's usually a lot more to these kinds of stories. Like the guy that was arrested for having a "prayer group" meet at his house - uh, no, he was running a church and had been thumbing his nose at building and fire codes for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted July 30, 2012 #9 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. Well, diverting flows is not exactly "catching rainwater", is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 30, 2012 #10 Share Posted July 30, 2012 http://thecount.com/...n-his-property/ Yes folks,the US government now owns the rain .He's facing jail time . Next,solar energy will be illegal,as I'm sure the US govt also owns light ........soon it will be illegal to breathe,as they own the air too ,I am sure. You should check the stories before posting them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eluveit Posted July 30, 2012 #11 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I like the progression of this story. I was ready to post something anti-government, but then new information appeared. Nice story, and the guy is a true jasckass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted July 30, 2012 #12 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Sometimes we find there is more to the story than we first read. Its good that on a forum like this all sides usually come out and we get a little closer to the truth. Can't just change the flow of water because you want to, it affects others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian-legio XIII Posted July 30, 2012 #13 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I caught this story on the morning network news and as usual they only tell enough to make it look like they want it to. "coming up, man goes to prison for collecting rain water",so much for investigative journalism. just tell us the whole story, unlike the news media or government believes, we can handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted July 30, 2012 #14 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Sometimes we find there is more to the story than we first read. Its good that on a forum like this all sides usually come out and we get a little closer to the truth. Can't just change the flow of water because you want to, it affects others. What is what this story boils down to on closer scrutiny: This is not about rainwater, it is not even about taking water out of flowing bodies,this is about illegally building dams on streams. And dams on streams are subject to environmental regulation (where you can build them on your land too if you respect the applicable codes, especially those on fish migration). The authors of the story seem to have been purposely misleading. So I guess it is: move on, nothing to see here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacknor Posted July 30, 2012 #15 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I still don't get where the governemnt has any right whatesoever to dictate what we do on our own property, unless it causes harm (whether by intent or stupidity) to someone other than ourselves. Holy crap, three relpies in the time it took me to type that... neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted July 30, 2012 #16 Share Posted July 30, 2012 What is what this story boils down to on closer scrutiny: This is not about rainwater, it is not even about taking water out of flowing bodies,this is about illegally building dams on streams. And dams on streams are subject to environmental regulation (where you can build them on your land too if you respect the applicable codes, especially those on fish migration). The authors of the story seem to have been purposely misleading. So I guess it is: move on, nothing to see here! Ah, but their little story has become the lead story on every morning show in the country and, as we've proven, a topic of discussion around the world. They made their bosses proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 30, 2012 #17 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. Yeah, but you are foolishly thinking that the facts matter in any form whatsoever. That doesn't go along with the plotlines these people want us to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted July 30, 2012 #18 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Frankly, I'm sick of the media trying to tell me what I should think. Give me the facts and let me decide for myself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 30, 2012 #19 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Frankly, I'm sick of the media trying to tell me what I should think. Give me the facts and let me decide for myself! We can dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 31, 2012 Author #20 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Don't shoot me,I'm only the piano player . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 31, 2012 Author #21 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) Well, diverting flows is not exactly "catching rainwater", is it? Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. I actually googled this,and read a couple of articles on this,as i didn't want to get it wrong. This wasn't in any of the articles I read . Edited July 31, 2012 by Simbi Laveau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 31, 2012 Author #22 Share Posted July 31, 2012 You should check the stories before posting them. I DID ,and none of the resovoir information was out there,when i did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted July 31, 2012 #23 Share Posted July 31, 2012 This guy didn't build those dams on his property.... Somebody else made that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted July 31, 2012 #24 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Here's another article with some more information... http://www.kpic.com/...-164206356.html According to this article, he didn't just harmlessly dig a couple holes and wasn't just collecting rainwater. He built reservoirs and dams that diverted flows.. and he's been doing it illegally for several years. He has been warned of his illegal actions, had to drain the reservoirs, opened the dams and filled them again.. There are legal ways of collecting and storing rainwater, he chose not to use them. i knew there had to be more to it than originally stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 31, 2012 #25 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I actually googled this,and read a couple of articles on this,as i didn't want to get it wrong. This wasn't in any of the articles I read . Shrug, I don't think you got it wrong Simbi, you put up a lot of good articles. Maybe we just have our search engines trained differently, or we used different words in our searches and so came up with different articles. Maybe it's just because I don't trust media and try to dig out whatever the other two sides of the coin are when I read an article that triggers my WTF response. Personally I don't think there's an unbiased media outlet in existence anymore- there is no such thing as the plain unvarnished truth in it's entirety given in the news. Here's a link to the 2007 court of appeals on this case: http://caselaw.findl...ls/1347290.html If you read through it the article I put up does not exactly match up either. Here's another bit of spin: http://aquadoc.typepad.com/waterwired/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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